Re: Lakers universally acclaimed as the NBA'S greatest franchise
posted at 8/19/2011 8:51 AM EDT
In Response to Re: Lakers universally acclaimed as the NBA'S greatest franchise
[QUOTE]Majic, I admire your creativity.....but the bottom line is the Celtics have beaten the Lakers in both the regular season and in the Finals....by a wide margin... the Celtics have more titles and a better Finals winning percentage...
And the Lakers have more conference championships and better conference playoffs records, by a wide margin. The Celtics have no better success than the Lakers, as your wide margin head-to-head means that you are worse against other teams. As you said, they success/failure rate are pretty much even.
what you conveniently forget to point out is the fact that, from the late '50's through the late '80's, the East was considered the stronger conference...while you continue to ignore the term "The Big Four", which was coined by the NBA beatwriters it is a fact that Boston, Philly, Milwaukee, (later Detroit) and the Lakers were considered to be the four best teams in the NBA during the '80's....do the math...[/QUOTE]
Of course, because I was there as much as you were. There were no "Big Four" that you imagined. Milwaukee? a Big Four? a team that never made the finals after they moved to the east? you wish. Afterall, the East was considered the stronger conference only because of the Celtics. Say, in the 30 years there you mentioned (1957-1986), the Celtics won 16 titles, the Lakers 4. Take away those 20 titles, the East/West record was only 5-5 (East: Knicks 2, 76ers 2, Bullets 1, West: Hawks, Bucks, Warriors, Blazers, Sonics). Overall, the East-West championship count disregarding Lakers/Celtics was only 18-14, .562. Considerably stronger? Hardly.
This fabricated theory that the rest of the East was considered the stronger conference so they blocked the Celtics from reaching more finals?
NO CHANCE AT ALL!!!
the majority of great teams had to go head to head to make the conference finals....the Lakers had an easier time getting there....hell, the players even spoke openly about how great it was to get to the finals without having to exaust themselves during the playoffs.....in earlier years the best team out West (St Louis Hawks) shifted to the East so the league could put an expansion team in the West (Phoenix) ......your argument comes down to two neighborhood bullies......one gets in more fights and beats up more kids....but when he fights the kid across town he gets his a** kicked....then still brags that he has won more fights so he is the toughest dude....it doesn't add up....[/QUOTE]
If it doesn't add up, then this bully who beats up the kids would get his S kicked when he meets the toughest dude. So why wasn't he? Simple, because this kid-beating bully is tougher than the toughest dude. That's why his record is pretty much the same (your own words) as your bully. You can't get away with this nonsense that the Lakers were only beating up the kids.