Re: Lakers with 4th loss in a row
posted at 12/2/2010 8:17 PM EST
In Response to Re: Lakers with 4th loss in a row
[QUOTE]Yes, Brady did engineer the drive....but against a prevent defense....what a horrible time for Lovie to call that.....I think Brady ended up with around 110 yards passing? .......as for Belichick, more than one player said that they were told to do anything and everything to slow the Rams down....and to keep doing it until the ref's started throwing flags....this is kind of like our complaint about game seven in LA....the ref's called a consistent game through 3 1/2 quarters then started calling fouls on the Celts..in the SB, the ref's took away the Rams strength (speed, rhythm, and timing)....smart on his part.....also, there is a new book out that looks at the games that changed the NFL (co-written by Ron Jaworski)...said Belichick told the team to hit Marshall Faulk as hard as possible on every play, whether he was involved or not...there was a lot of holding going on...Martz was an idiot as far as I'm concerned and lost that game with his coaching...he was outsmarted by the "hoodie"....lastly....how about the alleged taping of the final walk through? Both Warner and Faulk said it was like the Pats knew what was coming on almost every play....they even called the plays at the line of scrimmage as the Rams were setting up...with all of the "Spygate" that is coming out....the first time it was ever brought up was by a former employee who claims it was, in fact, done....I wonder if there is any truth to that rumor?
Posted by Duke4[/QUOTE]
The problem with your Superbowl to Finals comparison is that the Lakers were the beneficiaries of a very lopsided free throw discrepancy. The Pats didn't do anything the Rams weren't allowed to do. The Rams could have played physical. They chose not to. Had they been routinely penalized for penalties the Pats were getting away with, then you would have a case.
The 2001 Pats had no business being in a Superbowl. Let alone against a team like the Rams. What do you expect Belichick to do? Just lay down for the Rams? He found their weak spot and punched them in the mouth. And they simply couldn't handle it. Their recievers were soft. It wasn't an officiating issue. It was a matchup issue.
And I don't know how you can say the Pats were running wild and unchecked. The refs did call a ticky tack penalty on the Tebucky Jones turnover and touchdown that resulted in 14 points for the Rams. There was a hold/hit on Marshall Faulk on the other side of the field. Warner never even looked in his direction.
Mike Martz was stubborn and arrogant amd it trickled down to some of the players. Remember Ricky Prohel's comments about a dynasty being born? If that's not taking your oppenent lightly,I don't know what is. That's something you save for the locker room. The fact that he said it in front of a camera, says a lot about the mentality of the man and the team.
As for the spygate "issue" now we are venturing into fantasy land. Just because some sleazebag writer goes on a fishing expedition 6 years after the fact and finds another lowlife to claim that something happened. Doesn't mean that it did. There has never been one shred of evidence produced to prove that the Pats taped the Rams walkthrough. Nothing.
I played high school and college football. There have been times where we walked of the field after having our heads handed to us and said "Man, it's like they knew what was coming." Jesus, we didn't mean it literally. Neither did Faulk and Warner. They were shellshocked. This was a team that was used to having it's way with it's opponents. And they had finally been shut down. They were stunned. It's easier than just admitting they got beat.
And even if the Pats had taped the walkthrough (which they didn't) it wouldn't have done them much good- let alone allowed them to predict what plays the Rams were running.
The Pats had 16 weeks of game tape to study. Including a very close game where they played the Rams earlier that year.
If it makes you feel any better, the Pats had the shoe on the other foot a few years later. Beaten by a team that shouldn't have been able to get within two touchdowns of them. You can forget about the ridiculous holding on the helmet catch. Or even Samuel's dropped game winning pick. Ultimately, the coaching staff's refusal to make the neccesary adjustments offensively did us in. At least you lost to a powerhouse like the Pats. We got taken out by the lowly one hit wonder: the Giants.And Eli freaking Manning. We lost 19-0 And didn't even get beaten by a team any Pats fans respected.
We both got to see our team win a Superbowl. This is ancient history. You can't change 01 And I can't change 07 It's time to let it go.
Anyway, the gf is out of town for the weekend. Going over to a friend's house to watch LeQueen vs Cleveland. Can't remember the last time I watched a non Celtics NBA game. I hate the NBA- but this one is a must see. Not feeling too confident in the Cavs thoiugh after watching them play against the Celtics the other night.