Miscalculation by Ainge & Doc

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    Hey! Someone gets it! Give me Jeff Green over Battier though. He's been really bad so far in the postseason (23% from the field, 23% from 3). A guy that shoots that bad with DWade and LeBron on the floor at the same time doesn't do much for you. He has one spot on the floor he's really solid from (the off-center three) and isn't bad from either corner. But he's really only been good at flopping so far. Again.....of those four mentioned I don't see how anyone wants anyone BUT Jeff Green. He's 26 (youngest of the bunch), averaged 20 points per in the playoffs (albeit 6 games - SSS), and shoots 44% from the field and 45% from 3. Hello? You wanna replace that guy? With Gerald Wallace/Battier and Perkins? How does that make you better?

     
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    In response to concord27's comment:

    Perk is and was always awful.  Could he have kept Rondo inspired in 2011 is anybody's guess.  All the moves Danny was kept from were his fault.  He came up with very little in what could have kept the title chances alive.  Tony Allen jumps out as one of his most preventable mistakes.  DA made it all happen in 2007 and that cannot be ignored.

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    Hey! Someone gets it! Give me Jeff Green over Battier though. He's been really bad so far in the postseason (23% from the field, 23% from 3). A guy that shoots that bad with DWade and LeBron on the floor at the same time doesn't do much for you. He has one spot on the floor he's really solid from (the off-center three) and isn't bad from either corner. But he's really only been good at flopping so far. Again.....of those four mentioned I don't see how anyone wants anyone BUT Jeff Green. He's 26 (youngest of the bunch), averaged 20 points per in the playoffs (albeit 6 games - SSS), and shoots 44% from the field and 45% from 3. Hello? You wanna replace that guy? With Gerald Wallace/Battier and Perkins? How does that make you better?



    I think most people here would have given the C's a better chance in 2011 with Perk and Wallace/Battier over Krstic and Green.

    Then, since neither Green or Krstic were on the 2012 ECF team, if the C's had Battier/Wallace and Perk resigned we probably win the title.

    If the C's could have turned JO and Nate (stupidly given 2 year deals instead of 1 year deals) along with 1st rd picks in '11 and '13 into Gerald Wallace then I do that all day and never trade Perk and Nate for Green and Krstic.

     
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    WOW!!!!!!

    Stop the PERK WAS THE ANSWER MADNESS...

    PERK WAS PERK IN 2008.....

    PERK WAS A SHELL OF HIMSELF IN 2011

    HE HAS A BAD ATTITUDE (ALL OF THOSE T FOULS HE GETS)

    HE CANT SCORE, CAN BAIRLY REBOUND..

    AND TO SAY WE SHOULDNT HAVE GOT GREEN..

    IF JEFF GREEN WASNT ON THE CELTICS..THE CELTICS WOULD HAVE BEEN IN THE LOTERY..AND IF PERK WAS WITH THE CS...THED HAVE A GOOD D..BUT WOULD ONLY SCORE 70 POINTS A GAME...WITH PERK AN AVG CELTICS GAME WOULD BE..MIAMI 89 BOSTON 62...

     

     
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    I hated the Perk trade but this is a weak argument you have posted here. 

    "Really what should've happened was they stay big with Perk, Shaq, JON and pound the HEAT."

    The reason they traded Perk was because of JON and Shaq. But those two old stiffs couldn't stay on the floor. 

    Perk would have limited effectiveness against the Heat, as there is no one for him to guard and he has iron hands around the basket.

    What you are overlooking is that Hibbert's main impact is offensive, we didn't have a young 7 foot four offensive big man - nobody does except for them. 

    The Heat can absolutely be beaten without a big man. But yeah, if you have a big man that can score and also play some D, it will help your chances. Those guys are hard to come by and we never had anyone like that on our roster. 

     
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    In response to Jefflippa's comment:

    Dear Lord, send us a true old fashioned low post center.

    Is Bynum worth a shot?

     

    We all know Greg Oden is made of glass.. Bynum is ceramic on the outside, doughnuts on the inside.

     
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    When you see the way the Pacers manhandle the HEAT at times it makes me upset that Ainge/Doc decided to fall for the small ball theory instead of staying big.

    When Ainge made the trade of Perk for Green the decision was made that it was better to play small to compete with Miami. Really what should've happened was they stay big with Perk, Shaq, JON and pound the HEAT.

    It hasn't worked for us...yes Green is nice but we had the same type of frontline as the Pacers have now but we went away from it.

    Bird saw something that Ainge never saw. Bird stayed with a conventional old school lineup and now it's paying off. Ainge panicked!

     

     



     

     

    Danny Strange screwed the pooch when he traded Perk...they haven't been able to play inside since..they could have won 2 more championships if he was there...Green?...are you kidding me? Every 3rd game he decides he's going to attack the basket...he's NOT a PTP.



    Perkins stinks ask the Thunder.  Two more titles maybe with Tony Allen and the addition of another healthy skilled big man to play alongside KG.

     
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    In response to DoctorCO's comment:

    WOW!!!!!!

    Stop the PERK WAS THE ANSWER MADNESS...

    PERK WAS PERK IN 2008.....

    PERK WAS A SHELL OF HIMSELF IN 2011

    HE HAS A BAD ATTITUDE (ALL OF THOSE T FOULS HE GETS)

    HE CANT SCORE, CAN BAIRLY REBOUND..

    AND TO SAY WE SHOULDNT HAVE GOT GREEN..

    IF JEFF GREEN WASNT ON THE CELTICS..THE CELTICS WOULD HAVE BEEN IN THE LOTERY..AND IF PERK WAS WITH THE CS...THED HAVE A GOOD D..BUT WOULD ONLY SCORE 70 POINTS A GAME...WITH PERK AN AVG CELTICS GAME WOULD BE..MIAMI 89 BOSTON 62...

     




    Yup... Perk is a total bust for OKC imo... One of the better trades DA made.... he was second guessed because Shaq went down for the count. The C's were doing great with Perk out due to injury, he wasnt needed. Now we can see he's gotten less and less effective to the point he appears virtually worthless on the court.

    On the other hand, Green has contributed much more to the C's and will continue to do so.

     
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    "Bird saw something that Ainge never saw."  

    That's been true their entire lives.  

     
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    In response to jfaust1954's comment:

    In response to BirdLewsBias' comment:

     

    When you see the way the Pacers manhandle the HEAT at times it makes me upset that Ainge/Doc decided to fall for the small ball theory instead of staying big.

    When Ainge made the trade of Perk for Green the decision was made that it was better to play small to compete with Miami. Really what should've happened was they stay big with Perk, Shaq, JON and pound the HEAT.

    It hasn't worked for us...yes Green is nice but we had the same type of frontline as the Pacers have now but we went away from it.

    Bird saw something that Ainge never saw. Bird stayed with a conventional old school lineup and now it's paying off. Ainge panicked!

     

     



     

     

    Danny Strange screwed the pooch when he traded Perk...they haven't been able to play inside since..they could have won 2 more championships if he was there...Green?...are you kidding me? Every 3rd game he decides he's going to attack the basket...he's NOT a PTP.



    Re: "Bird saw something that Ainge never saw. Bird stayed with a conventional old school lineup and now it's paying off. Ainge panicked!"

    We have not dominated the paint since the Bird, Mchale & Parish days. Yes, we might have won 2 more titles with Perk, 2010 when he got hurt & 2011. But KG was younger & we had Sheed too so we were not desperate for Perk to give us double digit rebs & scoring & put up with his poor foul shooting too. His strength was muscle vs. Bynum, Gasol, Howard etc. OKC with Durant, Harden(before traded) & Westbrook didn't need Perk to score either. But today, unless a team has another big man who can score in the post, then Perk can come in to relieve him only and probably foul out.


    Going small is not the answer because the best small team is the Heat and last year they didn't have Birdman or anyone domineering in the paint except maybe Bosh yet still won. Indy is battling them becasue they have Hibbert. But the Heat are so good, even outrebounded, they may win. I won't be unhappy rooting for the Spurs to beat them.

     

     
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    In response to Jefflippa's comment:

    Dear Lord, send us a true old fashioned low post center.

    Is Bynum worth a shot?

     




    No he is not.

     

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