Re: Perk in WCF's showing his stuff
posted at 5/22/2011 7:53 PM EDT
In Response to Re: Perk in WCF's showing his stuff
[QUOTE]Perk hasn't played especially well in the playoffs but since the trade OKC went on a big run and the Celts struggled record wise. Perk has shown a lot of leadership to the young OKC team, there are plenty of articles on it. " I've come around to feeling the deal Danny made for him was a good one for the Celtics." Why? What did we get in return? If Jeff Green had been an impact player, it would have been great, but he wasn't. If Shaq had been healthy enough to play, it might have been a good trade, but he wasnt. "Perk could have maybe helped us with Shaq being out cause he knows the system...and thats the only reason. Even Murphy would be a big improvement to Perk." Murphy wasn't healthy enough to play, so that's not a useful analogy. Doc said after the season that experience playing as a unit was the one advantage we had over the Heat and the Bulls, with the Perk trade, we lost that advantage. "I don't like raggin on the guy" Actually I think you kind of do. "but after all the hoopla I read about how trading Perk cost us a title," Hard to say, but it was clearly a bad trade if you focus on this year's results. For this year, all it did was hurt our chances. There's really no way to argue otherwise. Points in the paint were a huge problem against the Heat. Don't think Perk could have helped there? Now, looking ahead, if we re-sign Jeff Green and he turns into an impact player, maybe that will seem a bit different. I'm skeptical. Doesn't matter how Perk is playing for OKC. Doesn't change the fact that Ainge rolled the dice on Shaq being healthy, and he lost. If he knows Shaq can't play, he doesn't make that trade. Simple as that. It didn't cost us a title necessarily, who knows. But it did cost us a run at a title. Note that I am NOT arguing we should have re-signed Perk this offseason. But based on the flimsy crud we got in return, we should have let him walk in the offseason and rode into the playoffs with our starting five intact. It's very hard to argue against this the way things played out.
Posted by BostonTrollSpanker[/QUOTE]
I understand the point youre making.
My point is what we got from Jeff Green alone is much, much more than what Im seeing from Perk.. Night & Day. Perk is playing like a 2nd string college player ... and Im not trying to be funny about it.
Also, Docs point about the issues with the trrades wasnt just specific to Perks trade... it was all the new faces coming and going.
DA's gamble for a healthy Shaq was a mistake... but thats not because Perk could have stepped in and gave us what Shaq did... there is no way that was gonna happen. Doc laments that because we could have used another "body".. even a lamer like Perk..to take up minutes b/c JON couldnt go more than 20
My point about not liking to rag on Perk (which you feel is disingenuous) is the truth. Im pointing out Perks many shortcomings imo b/c Im getting tired of reading what a superstar he must be.. If you took the time to really focus on him while he plays, you'll clearly see hes terrible.. hes playing just terrible.
Regarding the C's struggles after the trade? If I recall after losing a game the day he got traded, I think the C's won 5 straight. and we played the entire season up to the point of his return and had a fantastic record.. So how do you reconcile we missed Perk so much when we played great ball for so long without him? Simply, we didnt miss him at all.
Finally, I disagree that Perk wouldnt have helped us much at all with stopping points in the paint... Did you watch any of the Memphis series??? Memphis DOMINATED points in the paint!! Perk isnt doing squat to limit that either against the MAvs... What on earth have you been watching or do you just repeat the folklore you hear about Perk?