Re: Pierce and Rondo's in game discussions.. other thoughts
posted at 5/11/2011 12:13 PM EDT
In Response to Pierce and Rondo's in game discussions.. other thoughts
[QUOTE]Does anyone want to try and guess what they are about. We have seen many of them play out...and Pierce last time he was asked about it,. brushed it off and said, Oh, we always do that. I wont sit here and tell you I know what it is, but Judging by the timing of it, I think Pierce is telling Rondo to shoot when he is open...something he does sometimes and other times he avoids shooting like the plague. Now you guys know I have defended Rondo all throughout his slump, but I did say once the playoffs started, no excuses for anyone. The one thing that has always bothered me about his play is when he avoids taking those open shots, it messes up the flow of offense, cuz the ball stops, so if you not gonna shoot, atleast keep the ball moving, but he starts driblling and then kick it to someone not ready to shoot or in a bad position and this is what I think Pierce is telling him, but Rondo doesnt seem to ever have a positive reaction to those talks, so thats discouraging. I refuse to make excuses for guys in the playoffs, and I love Rondo, but he said himself, not to make exucses for him, cuz they are a no excuse team...so with that being said...(gulp) Would this team be doing better with Jeff teague or Holliday at pg? those are 2 young pg's that come to mind when I think of guys that atleast can shoot consistently and dont pass up shots... Teague may be just as fast, can finish and shoot and plays with energy every night,..Im just saying if we gonna have the same core players maybe we need to start thinking of a guy who can keep the offense on shedule when other guys are not on. Green is the only guy with young legs we have besides Rondo, but you never know when Rondo is gonna shoot or not...its almost like the only time he looks for his shot is if he has a good shootaround because you have games like the one against the spurs where he took every open shot and made most of them, and some games he refuses to take it....that cant happen...we need more consistent play and accountability from him...and yes I appreciate what he does and what he has done this posteason...just thinking ahead a little and playing devils advocate...I have always supported him, so I think its fair to ask....
Posted by JayShizzle45[/QUOTE]
Wow you are finally coming around..... the Rondo apologists, um, I mean supporters have always said that his strengths outweigh his weaknesses and the players can become good shooters and state that Cousy could not shoot and Kidd eventually became a good shooter -so 2 guys in 50 years..hmmmm.
If Rondo lead the league with 30 assists per game and there were a bunch of guys averaging around 10... I could kind of get it.
If Rondo lead the league with 12 steals per game there were a bunch of guys averaging around 2... I could kind of get it.
Good point guards go to the line about 5 times per game and make 80% - 4 points per game. Rondo goes twice and misses half - 1 point per game.
He avoids shooting (because he can't) and is an automatic double team or sag in the paint.....
So how exactly do his strengths outweigh his weaknesses? He didn't even lead the league in assists but somehow he is considered elite.
This team would be no worse off and in a lot of cases better with Rose, Westbrook, D Williams, M Williams, Teague, Holiday, Kidd, Nash, Conley (yeah I can see Rondo draining a 3 to force overtime - lmao), Wall, and a bunch of others.
There has always been some sort of mindset that Rondo defers to his teammates and that if he wanted to he could average 30 ppg....
I posted a while back with a school grade analogy:
Math (assists) - Rondo gets an A, and a bunch of other guys get As and Bs
Reading (steals) - Rondo gets an A, and a bunch of other guys get As and Bs
Gym (shooting) - Rondo gets an F, and there are bunch of guys getting As and Bs
Geography (free throws) - Rondo gets an F, and there are bunch of guys getting As and Bs
History (3 point shooting) - Rondo gets an I (incomplete), there are a bunch of guys getting As and Bs
Art (passing) - Rondo gets an A, a bunch of other guys get As and Bs....
when you add it all up Rondo does several things very well and his peers are as good if not better in some of those categories and there are several categories where Rondo is an abysmal failure where his peers are very good at it but somehow........ he is perfect for this team....
The team has a very hard time scoring against good defensive teams but I keep reading here that they don't need Rondo to score because there is plenty of scoring....lmao....
Yes, the Cs would be better off with Tyreke Evans, Udrih, M Williams, D Williams, Wall, Rose, Westbrook, Nash, Kidd, and a whole bunch of others...... welcome to the reality club.