Potential Trade Partner - $10-million under CBA minimum salary

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    I guess you guys don't realize that Philly won't have to give up anything to accept a $5m or $10m player at the trade deadline. Teams that want to shed salary at the trade deadline would be willing to give up a draft pick or picks or a good player to Philly so they would take a contract that they no longer want.

    Anyone heard from Russ or Snake lately?

     
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    I guess you guys don't realize that Philly won't have to give up anything to accept a $5m or $10m player at the trade deadline. Teams that want to shed salary at the trade deadline would be willing to give up a draft pick or picks or a good player to Philly so they would take a contract that they no longer want.

    Anyone heard from Russ or Snake lately?

     



    Yes, but a scenario like that means Philly would have to take a bad contract.

     

    Why would a team wanting to shed salary trade an expiring contract?

     

    If you want a salary dump then you offer a draft pick or draft picks as incentive.

    But if you're the team that wants to reach the minimum salary then you will be the one offering an incentive.

     

    The Celts are already below the tax line.

    So trading Humpy is really not a priority.

     

    Let's put it this way, if Humpy to Philly for a 2nd round pick happens, it's Philly that called the Celtics, not the Celtics calling the Sixers.



    This is nonsense.

    A team over the luxury tax line or salary cap who knows they won't be a title contender, they would give up assets to not pay the luxury tax or to be under the cap for the 2013-14 season. Yes, Philly would take a bad expiring contract, even for a player that is out the rest of the season.

    To shed a $7m expiring contract, that could save a team over the luxury tax line $15m to $25m in luxury tax payments for just this season. Plus, there are added benefits in years to come, to not being a tax paying team.

     
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    In order for the Cavs to accept Baron Davis' contract, THEY received a 1st round pick which turned into Kyrie Irving.

    Humphries for a 2nd rounder is just more one-sided trade nonsense.

     
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    Sacramento gave up a top 55 protected pick to the Celtics.

    Boston will never see that pick.

    Under the old CBA there were fines and penalties for not reaching the minimum team salary which is why Sacramento had to acquire a player. There are no longer penalties. You just have to spread the shortage to current players. It is very different now.

    What if the Lakers are out of playoff contention? Don't you think they would trade Steve Blake's expiring contract, cash and a draft pick to Philly and get nothing back in return? Not having Blakes contract on the books would save the Lakers about $10m this season in luxury tax.

     
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    Why don't you address my point about Steve Blake?

    Boston does not need to shed salary.

    They are under the Luxury Tax.

    They might want to shed salary.

    Teams will be more than willing to give up assets in order for Philly to accept a player as a salary dump so that player is not on the books for the 2013-14 season.

     

     
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    And, why would Philly accomodate Boston and take back Humphries when they could just give that money to their own players? Teams aren't in business to help the Celtics shed salary.

     
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    Sacramento gave up a top 55 protected pick to the Celtics.

    Boston will never see that pick.

    Under the old CBA there were fines and penalties for not reaching the minimum team salary which is why Sacramento had to acquire a player. There are no longer penalties. You just have to spread the shortage to current players. It is very different now.

    What if the Lakers are out of playoff contention? Don't you think they would trade Steve Blake's expiring contract, cash and a draft pick to Philly and get nothing back in return? Not having Blakes contract on the books would save the Lakers about $10m this season in luxury tax.

     



    Right now the Sixers only have 38.3m in total guaranteed salaries and 44.49m if you include their non-guaranteed contracts and once they sign their rookies, MCW and Noel.

     

    The Sixers need to reach 52.8m to be at the minimum team salary.

     

    44.49m + 4m = 48.49m

    That means the Sixers are still short because the minimum team salary is 52.8m.

    So Steve Blake to Philly does NOT solve the Sixers' problem of reaching the team minimum salary.



    Then Philly could trade with Chicago for Kirk Heinrich's expiring contractand receive more assets in order for Chicago to dump his salary. There are many players that could be traded to Philly. Philly could make 2, 3 or 4 trades to reach the minimum salary. They could acquire a number of assets or draft picks for doing so.

     
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    Why don't you address my point about Steve Blake?

    Boston does not need to shed salary.

    They are under the Luxury Tax.

    They might want to shed salary.

    Teams will be more than willing to give up assets in order for Philly to accept a player as a salary dump so that player is not on the books for the 2013-14 season.

     

     



    Like I said in an earlier post, the Sixers will NOT want to take on a contract that is NOT an expiring one because they would lose their salary cap flexibility.

     

    The Celtics need to shed salary because the Celtic owners are cheap.

    If the Celts trade Humpy's contract for a 2nd round pick, top 55 even, the Celts' payroll will just be 59.2m. 

    Get it?

     

    Still don't get it?

    The owners of the Celts are not like the owners of the Nets, Knicks, or Lakers.

    Just because the Celts are already under the tax line it doesn't mean they don't want to shed salary anymore.



    You said the Celtics NEED to shed salary. No, they don't, they might want to.

    It is foolish to think that Philly won't acquire assets for other teams using their cap space to acquire an expiring contract that they don't want.

     
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    Then Philly could trade with Chicago for Kirk Heinrich's expiring contractand receive more assets in order for Chicago to dump his salary. There are many players that could be traded to Philly. Philly could make 2, 3 or 4 trades to reach the minimum salary. They could acquire a number of assets or draft picks for doing so.

     

     



    Then that's good for Philly.

     

    It's not like the Celts don't have options as well.

    If the Celts hang on to Humpy and he plays well during the season, the Celts could get more for Humpy than just a 2nd round pick.

     

    Tommy rules, right?

    HAHAHA 



    Both teams have options but this trade would be foolish for Philly.

    We are all used to the one-sided pro Celtics trade ideas that are presented here.

    The king of all bad trade ideas was Red.

    I miss him waking up at 7 in CA and burning up the keyboard...

     
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    You said the Celtics NEED to shed salary. No, they don't, they might want to.

    It is foolish to think that Philly won't acquire assets for other teams using their cap space to acquire an expiring contract that they don't want.

     



    And like I said, it's not the end of the world if Philly and Boston don't make a trade.

     



    Came down off your confident high horse a little bit, huh?

    Don't trip over your tail between your legs!

     
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    Both teams have options but this trade would be foolish for Philly.

    We are all used to the one-sided pro Celtics trade ideas that are presented here.

    The king of all bad trade ideas was Red.

    I miss him waking up at 7 in CA and burning up the keyboard...

     



    If you think that's one-sided then that's your opinion.

     

    Seriously, you get frustrated when Celtic fans talk about trades that favor the Celtics?

    Maybe because you're in the wrong forum.

    I mean Celtic fans don't go to Laker forums because it's not their place.

    But you're so insecure, you have to tell Celtic fans not to make trade proposals that favor the Celtics.

    HAHAHA



    Trade proposal are fine if the people are informed and/or the trade makes a bit of sense.

    The knowledge of the fans on this forum is absurdly low.

    So, that's just a fact.

     
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