Prediction: 2014 draft pick aquired from Nets will be between 17 - 20!

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    Prediction: 2014 draft pick aquired from Nets will be between 17 - 20!

    Brooklyn Nets: 5 Concerns Entering 2013-14

    Team Has Talent Galore, but Can It Stay Healthy, Come Together? . At age 37, Kevin Garnett's minutes and health will have to be carefully monitored.

    On paper, the   Brooklyn Nets   have one of the most impressive collections of individual talent in recent memory. 

    There's a former MVP in Kevin Garnett. There's a former NBA Finals MVP in Paul Pierce. Along with the other projected starters,Deron WilliamsBrook Lopez and Joe Johnson, there are a total of 35 All-Star game appearances.

    Go to the bench and there's a former NBA champion in Jason Terry and yet another former All-Star in Andrei Kirilenko.

    So what's to worry about? Here are five big concerns for the Nets entering the 2013-14 season:

    1. Age May Be Before Beauty

    The resumes are dazzling, but the birth certificates of many of the Nets are yellowing. Garnett is 37 years old. Pierce and Terry are 36. Reserve Reggie Evans is 33. Johnson and Kirilenko are each 32. Alan Anderson is 31. Williams is 29. The youngest starter, Lopez, is 25 and has had three surgical procedures on his right foot, the most recent to replace a screw holding the foot together.

     

    The impetus will be on new coach Jason Kidd, himself just three or so years older than Garnett at 40, to manage the minutes carefully so that this long-in-the-tooth group has something left when the calendar rolls over to May and, perhaps, June.

    2. Does Their HMO Still Cover All of This?

    Garnett missed 14 games last season because of ankle injuries. He also missed six games the previous year, 11 in 2010-11, 13 in 2010-10, 25 in 2008-09 and 11 in 2007-08 due to various ailments. The last time Garnett played at least 80 games was in 2004-05, when he appeared in all 82 games for the Minnesota Timberwolves.

    Pierce, meanwhile, has been more durable, but he missed five games last year with an ankle problem of his own. Williams is currently out nursing (what else?) an ankle injury (more on that in a bit), an injury that has lingered the last three seasons, costing the point guard 17 games in 2010-11 and 11 in 2011-12.

     

    And Lopez? Well, he missed all but five games of the lockout-shortened 2011-12 season because of the broken right foot that is being held together by the new screw ... the one that had to be replaced because the last one bent. Lopez is a big guy at 7-feet and 260 pounds, but those surgical screws are really not supposed to bend.

    Throw in that Kirilenko has never been a poster child for durability during his NBA career and that backup point guard Shaun Livingston almost had his career ended because of a horrific knee injury in 2007 and, yes, there are some health concerns.

    3. Will This Bunch Need those Little "Hello, My Name Is ..." Tags?

    The Nets' projected lineup is Garnett and Pierce at the forwards, Lopez at center with Johnson and Williams in the backcourt. Fine. Dandy ... except for the fact that this group of five has played precisely zero minutes together to this point.

    Garnett and Pierce played together in Boston for six years. Williams and Lopez have played together, off and on, for the Nets for the last three seasons. Johnson has been with Williams and Lopez for a season now.

    That's not the same thing as playing together.

    Remember when the Miami Heat brought their version of the "Super Friends" together in 2010? Dwyane Wademissed all but a couple of minutes of the preseason with an injury. Then on opening night, he was forcibly reunited with LeBron James and Chris Bosh.

    The most talented team in the NBA started 9-8 before things finally began to jell. And the Brooklyn Nets aren't the most talented team in the NBA.

    4. Can Coach Kidd Coach Guys Who Aren't Kids?

    Jason Kidd retired as a player and less than a week later was hired to coach the Nets. Somewhere, Patrick Ewing hurled objects at the wall upon hearing that news. But, seriously, Kidd's going to be under a microscope as he makes the rapid transition from one of the guys to the guy in the lead chair on the bench.

    Can he effectively manage minutes? Can he get a group of players who have all been alpha dogs at one point or another to sublimate their individual heroics for the greater good? Does he have a system? Can he manage a rotation? Does he know how to work the clock and use his timeouts properly?

    Kidd was a tremendous game manager as a point guard. Ask Magic Johnson or Isiah Thomas how that skill translated to being a head coach.

    5. Is There Enough Depth Up Front?

    Looking at the Nets' cast of big men is fun ... at first. Garnett. Lopez. But it gets more problematic from there. Reggie Evans, the guy who rebounds big and does little else. Andray Blatche, the guy who saved his career last season, but still is the player the Washington Wizards thought so much of that they paid him $23 million to go away.

    And those are the good guys among the Brooklyn bigs.

    There's also Mirza Teletovic, the 28-year-old Bosnian who played just 9.4 minutes a game last year and there's Mason Plumlee, a rookie from Duke -- that school with such a tremendous track record of sending bigs to the NBA (let's see, there was Elton Brand and ... yeah, that's about it).

    There is depth galore on the wings in Brooklyn. But the big-man situation could get dicey fast if No. 1 (age) or No. 2 (injury) on this list rear their ugly heads.

     

     
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    Injury to Lopez, KG, and or D. Williams is the greatest concern! One, two, or all 3 of these guys go down, it could get ugly quick! 

    This season: Nets pain = Celtics gain!! 

     
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    The nets Biggies look pretty solid to me...counting on them to falter is a false hope...these guys are slowly getting ready and will peak just before the playoffs, which is what veteran teams with older players do....them looking beatable now, or if they get off to a slow start, means nothing...they'll have rested vets for the playoff run...imagine PP and KG being rested and only having to play 25 mins or less a game?...They will be more than dangerous then!

     
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    In response to BCSP's comment:
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    Brooklyn Nets: 5 Concerns Entering 2013-14

    Team Has Talent Galore, but Can It Stay Healthy, Come Together? . At age 37, Kevin Garnett's minutes and health will have to be carefully monitored.

    On paper, the   Brooklyn Nets   have one of the most impressive collections of individual talent in recent memory. 

    There's a former MVP in Kevin Garnett. There's a former NBA Finals MVP in Paul Pierce. Along with the other projected starters,Deron WilliamsBrook Lopez and Joe Johnson, there are a total of 35 All-Star game appearances.

    Go to the bench and there's a former NBA champion in Jason Terry and yet another former All-Star in Andrei Kirilenko.

    So what's to worry about? Here are five big concerns for the Nets entering the 2013-14 season:

    1. Age May Be Before Beauty

    The resumes are dazzling, but the birth certificates of many of the Nets are yellowing. Garnett is 37 years old. Pierce and Terry are 36. Reserve Reggie Evans is 33. Johnson and Kirilenko are each 32. Alan Anderson is 31. Williams is 29. The youngest starter, Lopez, is 25 and has had three surgical procedures on his right foot, the most recent to replace a screw holding the foot together.

     

    The impetus will be on new coach Jason Kidd, himself just three or so years older than Garnett at 40, to manage the minutes carefully so that this long-in-the-tooth group has something left when the calendar rolls over to May and, perhaps, June.

    2. Does Their HMO Still Cover All of This?

    Garnett missed 14 games last season because of ankle injuries. He also missed six games the previous year, 11 in 2010-11, 13 in 2010-10, 25 in 2008-09 and 11 in 2007-08 due to various ailments. The last time Garnett played at least 80 games was in 2004-05, when he appeared in all 82 games for the Minnesota Timberwolves.

    Pierce, meanwhile, has been more durable, but he missed five games last year with an ankle problem of his own. Williams is currently out nursing (what else?) an ankle injury (more on that in a bit), an injury that has lingered the last three seasons, costing the point guard 17 games in 2010-11 and 11 in 2011-12.

     

    And Lopez? Well, he missed all but five games of the lockout-shortened 2011-12 season because of the broken right foot that is being held together by the new screw ... the one that had to be replaced because the last one bent. Lopez is a big guy at 7-feet and 260 pounds, but those surgical screws are really not supposed to bend.

    Throw in that Kirilenko has never been a poster child for durability during his NBA career and that backup point guard Shaun Livingston almost had his career ended because of a horrific knee injury in 2007 and, yes, there are some health concerns.

    3. Will This Bunch Need those Little "Hello, My Name Is ..." Tags?

    The Nets' projected lineup is Garnett and Pierce at the forwards, Lopez at center with Johnson and Williams in the backcourt. Fine. Dandy ... except for the fact that this group of five has played precisely zero minutes together to this point.

    Garnett and Pierce played together in Boston for six years. Williams and Lopez have played together, off and on, for the Nets for the last three seasons. Johnson has been with Williams and Lopez for a season now.

    That's not the same thing as playing together.

    Remember when the Miami Heat brought their version of the "Super Friends" together in 2010? Dwyane Wademissed all but a couple of minutes of the preseason with an injury. Then on opening night, he was forcibly reunited with LeBron James and Chris Bosh.

    The most talented team in the NBA started 9-8 before things finally began to jell. And the Brooklyn Nets aren't the most talented team in the NBA.

    4. Can Coach Kidd Coach Guys Who Aren't Kids?

    Jason Kidd retired as a player and less than a week later was hired to coach the Nets. Somewhere, Patrick Ewing hurled objects at the wall upon hearing that news. But, seriously, Kidd's going to be under a microscope as he makes the rapid transition from one of the guys to the guy in the lead chair on the bench.

    Can he effectively manage minutes? Can he get a group of players who have all been alpha dogs at one point or another to sublimate their individual heroics for the greater good? Does he have a system? Can he manage a rotation? Does he know how to work the clock and use his timeouts properly?

    Kidd was a tremendous game manager as a point guard. Ask Magic Johnson or Isiah Thomas how that skill translated to being a head coach.

    5. Is There Enough Depth Up Front?

    Looking at the Nets' cast of big men is fun ... at first. Garnett. Lopez. But it gets more problematic from there. Reggie Evans, the guy who rebounds big and does little else. Andray Blatche, the guy who saved his career last season, but still is the player the Washington Wizards thought so much of that they paid him $23 million to go away.

    And those are the good guys among the Brooklyn bigs.

    There's also Mirza Teletovic, the 28-year-old Bosnian who played just 9.4 minutes a game last year and there's Mason Plumlee, a rookie from Duke -- that school with such a tremendous track record of sending bigs to the NBA (let's see, there was Elton Brand and ... yeah, that's about it).

    There is depth galore on the wings in Brooklyn. But the big-man situation could get dicey fast if No. 1 (age) or No. 2 (injury) on this list rear their ugly heads.

     

    [/QUOTE]Some overated,some too old,some injury prone.I predict the pick will be between 8-12Go celtics


     
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    The nets Biggies look pretty solid to me...counting on them to falter is a false hope...these guys are slowly getting ready and will peak just before the playoffs, which is what veteran teams with older players do....them looking beatable now, or if they get off to a slow start, means nothing...they'll have rested vets for the playoff run...imagine PP and KG being rested and only having to play 25 mins or less a game?...They will be more than dangerous then!

    [/QUOTE]

    I disagree - as solid as the screw holding Lopez's foot together! 

     
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    Re: Prediction: 2014 draft pick aquired from Nets will be between 17 - 20!

    i could say 15-18th pick

     
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    5 to 10th place finish, whatever position that translates to.  25 maybe?

     
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    Brooklyn's 4th best big man (Reggie Evans) is better then any big man that plays for Boston.

    Brooklyn is loaded with talent.

    Boston will probably be picking with the 25th pick from Brooklyn.

     
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    Re: Prediction: 2014 draft pick aquired from Nets will be between 17 - 20!

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    The Nets are going to win more than 50 games.

    No way that pick falls in the teens.

    Maybe 22 or 21, but no way it falls in the 17-20 range.

     



    There are no guarentees with Lopez's foot! The Nets might just get "screwed"

     

    And Lopez? Well, he missed all but five games of the lockout-shortened 2011-12 season because of the broken right foot that is being held together by the new screw ... the one that had to be replaced because the last one bent. Lopez is a big guy at 7-feet and 260 pounds, but those surgical screws are really not supposed to bend.

     

     
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    Anyone want to recalculate this? ;) The Nets draft pick may be quite high? Is it unprotected as well?

     
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    Atlanta Hawks have the right to switch it with their pick unfortunately. 

     
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    Atlanta Hawks have the right to switch it with their pick unfortunately. 

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    Finally.  I was beginning to think this was an ATL forum.  What's wrong with you people??

     
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    If the Nets suck it's good the the Hawks not the Celtics. If the both suck that would be nice.

     
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    Hi,

    As spewey noted - a lot depends on ATL.

    In order for the Celtics to get Nets' pick in 17-20 range Atl also has to be in that range.

     

    AK

     
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    LOL at Reggie Evans......KG, Lopez, Blatche and Plumlee all have better stats.

     

    So do Sullinger, Bass and Olynyk.............

     

     
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    Hi,

    As spewey noted - a lot depends on ATL.

    In order for the Celtics to get Nets' pick in 17-20 range Atl also has to be in that range.

     

    AK

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    Agree.  The Nets don't look like a very good team currently.  They may not end up with a very good record.  Although, it is still very early in the season.  The Celtics may end up with a good draft pick but it is much early to make that determination. 

     
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    It will all come down to injuries and team health.  IF Brooklyn remain relatively healthy, they should finish with a pick in the low twenties... but if any two of Lopez, Pierce, Garnett and Williams goes down for any lengthly amount of time, which is very probably, they would finish with a pick in the mid teens.  

    At that point, we could get the Atlanta pick which could be higher.  We get the worse of the two.

     
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    It will all come down to injuries and team health.  IF Brooklyn remain relatively healthy, they should finish with a pick in the low twenties... but if any two of Lopez, Pierce, Garnett and Williams goes down for any lengthly amount of time, which is very probably, they would finish with a pick in the mid teens.  

    At that point, we could get the Atlanta pick which could be higher.  We get the worse of the two.

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    Hold on - question here - doesn't ATL have the choice to switch?  So, they could not switch this year, right?

    I'm not saying they won't, just asking.........they might not want anyone in the draft, might not want to take on payroll.....etc.   But, it's their choice, right?

     

     
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    ???  Are you saying that Atlanta would want to take, say the 19th pick in the draft instead of the 15th?   We will end up with the worst (highest pick) of the Brooklyn and Atlanta picks.  Our best hopes are that both Brooklyn AND Atlanta stink.  

    "Brooklyn will convey the less favorable of its 2014 1st round pick and Atlanta's 2014 1st round pick to Boston (via Atlanta's right to swap for Brooklyn) [Atlanta-Brooklyn, 7/11/2012 and then Boston-Brooklyn, 7/12/2013]"

     

     
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    When the season shakes out both BKN and ATL will be in playoffs.  BCSP has the pick range (17-20) ballparked correct IMO.

     
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    ???  Are you saying that Atlanta would want to take, say the 19th pick in the draft instead of the 15th?   We will end up with the worst (highest pick) of the Brooklyn and Atlanta picks.  Our best hopes are that both Brooklyn AND Atlanta stink.  

    "Brooklyn will convey the less favorable of its 2014 1st round pick and Atlanta's 2014 1st round pick to Boston (via Atlanta's right to swap for Brooklyn) [Atlanta-Brooklyn, 7/11/2012 and then Boston-Brooklyn, 7/12/2013]"

     

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    Not saying anything.....just asking.  Didn't the Heat sell their pick a couple of years ago to avoid the lux tax?

     
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    In response to Fierce34's comment:
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    In response to hedleylamarr's comment:

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    Not saying anything.....just asking.  Didn't the Heat sell their pick a couple of years ago to avoid the lux tax?

     

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    Yup.

     

    Moultrie to the Sixers.

     

    And Atlanta has no cap issues because they're under the cap this season and next season.

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    Thanks, is this the only year they can swap, or can they do it in multiple years?

     
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    Re: Prediction: 2014 draft pick aquired from Nets will be between 17 - 20!

    Atlanta is 6-5 right now.

    They look pretty good now, but injuries can always hit a team.

     

     

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