RAY ALLEN hitting 3s at 46%, CELTS in last 10 games at 31% ... ENOUGH SAID!

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    Re: RAY ALLEN hitting 3s at 46%, CELTS in last 10 games at 31% ... ENOUGH SAID!

    What about his last few games?

     
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    Re: RAY ALLEN hitting 3s at 46%, CELTS in last 10 games at 31% ... ENOUGH SAID!

    He averaged around 9 points a game and shot 43 percent from the field in December.

    Ray Allen is not the issue.

     
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    Re: RAY ALLEN hitting 3s at 46%, CELTS in last 10 games at 31% ... ENOUGH SAID!

    this statistic does not matter- i GUARANTEE YOU that ray is not running 18 seconds worth of curls, reverse curls, more curls and curls some more to break free for a last-three-seconds-of-the-shotclock heave.  that was what he did here in BOS with feckless rondo as point guard.  it was so MUCH MORE WORK than it had to be

    so of course he's fresher down in miami and hitting shots at a better rate.  but make no mistake about it- ray did not have one drop of relevancy left playing for this doldrums celtic team with the offense from hell that we have.  he's too old and too many surgeries into it to do that sort of crap any longer

     
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    Re: RAY ALLEN hitting 3s at 46%, CELTS in last 10 games at 31% ... ENOUGH SAID!

    Yeah...but Ray Allen isn't on the Celtics anymore. He's moved on..and so shouldn't the Ray Allen lovers. The Celtics made him an offer that was more than fair...he chose to leave because he couldn't mesh with the team...so you can quote Ray Allen stats all year long but that doesn't get anyone anywhere. Life is not about coulda..shoulda..woulda.

     
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    Re: RAY ALLEN hitting 3s at 46%, CELTS in last 10 games at 31% ... ENOUGH SAID!

    yah, enough said Commie, don't bring up Ray Allen again, he's in the past now. 

    If you must talk about him find a Heat forum, he's on their team now. 

    But yeah, when Lebron is on your team it is easier to get an open three - so what.

     
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    Re: RAY ALLEN hitting 3s at 46%, CELTS in last 10 games at 31% ... ENOUGH SAID!

    Ray's gone but we are still dealing with Terry.  He's shooting way worse than Ray ever did.   All the JT lovers who said Terry can do more and is as good as Ray are dead wrong.   Terry is giving us nothing from the shooting guard position and he's one of several reasons we stink right now.

    forgetting Ray would be easy if JT would do SOMETHING!

     
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    Mark my words, Ray Allen will break down

     
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    Re: RAY ALLEN hitting 3s at 46%, CELTS in last 10 games at 31% ... ENOUGH SAID!

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    Ray's gone but we are still dealing with Terry.  He's shooting way worse than Ray ever did.   All the JT lovers who said Terry can do more and is as good as Ray are dead wrong.   Terry is giving us nothing from the shooting guard position and he's one of several reasons we stink right now.

    forgetting Ray would be easy if JT would do SOMETHING!

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    how about if green, bass, terry AND lee could do something???  what if the whole team showed hustle and urgency instead of malaise and lack of caring.  GEEEEEEE, i wonder what could be causing all of these problemos all at once.... ??

     
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    We replaced Ray with Terry.

    We replaced JO with Collins.

    Is that getting younger?

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    doesn't fierce march out the darndest things as "facts"?!  there are some 50 year old men out there who could do more than collins does for his 13-20 minute stints where he is 1's and 0's just like a schematic for light switches.....

     
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    Re: RAY ALLEN hitting 3s at 46%, CELTS in last 10 games at 31% ... ENOUGH SAID!

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    COURT NOT BEING SPREAD, TAKE OUT PP, YOU CAN HANG OUT AND BOX EVERYTHING IN...

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    Ray Allen haters will never admit how important Ray was, both on and off the court, for the Celtics...much less admit that Ray leaving is one of, if not the primary reason why the Celtics sux this season.  They were so sure how this team would improve without Ray, but still refuse to admit they are wrong...even as the proof is self evident in the Celtics' record.

    The fact is the Celtics never play this poorly and looked this bad in the Ray Allen era.   That's a fact.     

     
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    In response to snakeoil123's comment:
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    He averaged around 9 points a game and shot 43 percent from the field in December.

    Ray Allen is not the issue.

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    Yes and the Heats lost 5 games this month because Ray didn't perform as well this month, he also played less minutes, which could be a reason why...but unlike Doc who would have played Ray plus 40mins, Eric Spoelstra took the lost to save Ray for the playoff run.  

    But it only shows how much of an impact a player of Ray's caliber is even with limited minutes.  You should also know on the flipside that the Heats are undefeated when Ray scores 12 or more points.       

     
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    this statistic does not matter- i GUARANTEE YOU that ray is not running 18 seconds worth of curls, reverse curls, more curls and curls some more to break free for a last-three-seconds-of-the-shotclock heave.  that was what he did here in BOS with feckless rondo as point guard.  it was so MUCH MORE WORK than it had to be

    so of course he's fresher down in miami and hitting shots at a better rate.  but make no mistake about it- ray did not have one drop of relevancy left playing for this doldrums celtic team with the offense from hell that we have.  he's too old and too many surgeries into it to do that sort of crap any longer

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    Yep.  It takes a great shooting guard to excel player with ball hog Rondo.  This just proofs how good Ray was for being so consistant playing with a 1 dimensional limited-talent like Rondo.  Lee couldn't do it, and neither could Terry.   But instead of trading Rondo, people are putting most of the blame on Lee and Terry, who did great with their old teams but has drop pretty much of the map playing with Rondo.

     
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    Re: RAY ALLEN hitting 3s at 46%, CELTS in last 10 games at 31% ... ENOUGH SAID!

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    Ray Allen is not walking thru that door anymore.

    We need to get younger.

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    We did get younger when Ray and JO left.

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    We replaced Ray with Terry.

    We replaced JO with Collins.

    Is that getting younger?

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    You do have a point after all Kirk!!!  Good one.

     
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    Re: RAY ALLEN hitting 3s at 46%, CELTS in last 10 games at 31% ... ENOUGH SAID!

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    Ray's gone but we are still dealing with Terry.  He's shooting way worse than Ray ever did.   All the JT lovers who said Terry can do more and is as good as Ray are dead wrong.   Terry is giving us nothing from the shooting guard position and he's one of several reasons we stink right now.

    forgetting Ray would be easy if JT would do SOMETHING!

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    This is not quite accurate.  You must have forgotten some of Ray's end of season shooting displays over the years.  So no he is not shooting "worse" than Ray ever did.  Now also JT still has the chance to change whats happening and its not over yet.  If he has some good games in the playoffs and help us win some then it won't be a complete failure.  And yes I have seen Terry play a lot of games,  I would bet money I have seen him play more than you.  Over the years he has played well and been very clutch for the Mavs.

    Now we got him for the 6th man and he is yet to play there for any significant time.  Now that Bradley is back , JT should be able to settle in and be more effective.  Now all the JT lovers you are referring to and just fans that like a player. Overall their careers, Ray is a better player than JT.  Ray left,  Ray's decision,  end of story.

    I have yet to see the Celtics bring in a player from another team and that player plays as well as he did for his previous team.  Maybe you can,  if so let me know who they are.

    Right now players not playing as well as they did for previous teams.

    Lee-  big time difference.  Green- Big time difference-  Terry - Big time difference.

    Why do you suppose this happens?

     
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    Ray's gone but we are still dealing with Terry.  He's shooting way worse than Ray ever did.   All the JT lovers who said Terry can do more and is as good as Ray are dead wrong.   Terry is giving us nothing from the shooting guard position and he's one of several reasons we stink right now.

    forgetting Ray would be easy if JT would do SOMETHING!

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    how about if green, bass, terry AND lee could do something???  what if the whole team showed hustle and urgency instead of malaise and lack of caring.  GEEEEEEE, i wonder what could be causing all of these problemos all at once.... ??

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    Yea, man....I'm waiting on that day!  You mean we'd actually have a bench?????  Wow, fantasies could come true, huh?

     
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    Re: RAY ALLEN hitting 3s at 46%, CELTS in last 10 games at 31% ... ENOUGH SAID!

    Does anyone really think if Ray were here that we would have a materially better record?  Let's deal with reality we need help upfront.  You get a player or players who are threats inside you will get open shots at the three line that Lee, Terry and Pierce will make with relative ease.  

     

    Get these same players out on the three line with no one inside as a threat as it is now and they will be pressured and miss just as Ray would.

     

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