Re: RONDO FACTS, NO OPINION ADDED
posted at 3/6/2013 5:59 PM EST
In response to kyceltic's comment:
In response to sinus007's comment:
In response to RallyC's comment:
From the 2007-2008 season to today, the Celtics are 34-18 (.654pct) all-time without Rajon Rondo. Thats a pretty legit, 52-game sample size. During this season alone, the Celtics are now 14-7 (.666pct) without RR. So, this season's recent winning trend is only slight higher than what our 52-game all time sample has proven out over the years. With RR playing this season, we were 18-20 (.473), RR missed 5-games due to league mandated suspensions. Based on these historical FACTS/trends, even if the C's play below the normal "without RR"(.654pct), and only play at a winning pct of .652, the C's would still go 15-8 (.652pct) bringing them to a season record of 47-35. I'd say that is good for at least the 4th seed in the E-CONF. If they never had RR this season and as a result played even lower at only .648pct for the year, they would be 53-29. Science is based on fact and probabilities. Based on this historical data, without RR this season, we would have been battling for the #1 seed in the EC. Again, not my opinion, only facts and logical assumptions based on statistical evidence. This is a clear example of what is meant by "adding by subtraction." don't be angry if you don't agree. These are the simple FACTS.
I'm sorry, but you conflate facts with stats.
Fact: Celtics won championship in 2008. Fact: they did it in 6 games against LAL. Fact: Celtics lost to Mia in ECF in 7 games last year. Fact: RR has more triple-doubles than Lebron in playoffs.
As for your stats, as most of real life stats, yours have holes that you can drive semi through. E.g., your 52-games sample doesn't take in consideration such simple things as there were different Celtics players and different opponents.
Rondo had about as much to do with the Celtics winning the title in 08 as Eddie House, matter of fact, Eddie had more to do with it than Rondo did!!
Seriously? Did you see the playoff stats?
I'll take 32 mins, 10.2 pts, 6.6 asts, 4.1 rebs, 1.7 stls, 40% FG's and pesky, destructive, back in the day () Rondo defense
7.9 mins, 2.5 pts, 0.9 asts, 1 reb, 0.2 stls, 30% FG's and mediocre/average defense
Did you look at the stats before you typed that KY? I mean, I remember a few dagger 3's and a big play or two in the Cleve clincher but that is ALL House did. Rondo was the starting PG for 30+ mins and 10+ pts for 26 games.
Rondo was better than Ray for the first two series of those playoffs.