Rondo, feeding Love and Sullinger?

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    Rondo, feeding Love and Sullinger?

    I understand Kevin Love can opt out of his contract after the 2014-15 season. Sounds good to me! I'll wager a bob or two that the idea sounds good to DA, also.

     
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    I understand Kevin Love can opt out of his contract after the 2014-15 season. Sounds good to me! I'll wager a bob or two that the idea sounds good to DA, also.

     

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    Sounds good to us all.

     

    The question is does it sound good to Kevin Love?

     

    Why would Kevin Love come to Boston when the Celts are a rebuilding team?

     

    Also, since the inception of the salary cap, the only big name free-agent the Celts were able to sign was a 35-year old Dominique Wilkins.

     

    Even KG didn't want to come to Boston at first because of racism.

     

    And if you were watching last night's game against Detroit, Sherrod said the Celts will unlikely get a star player in free-agency.

    Boston is not an attractive destination for big name free-agents.

    It is what it is.

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    Last I read, you were blaming Mployee8's racist remarks as the reason FAs don't want to come to Beantown.

    What's with you and rascism?

    Pud

     
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    "And if you were watching last night's game against Detroit, Sherrod said the Celts will unlikely get a star player in free-agency.

    Boston is not an attractive destination for big name free-agents."

    This is true - anyone who disagrees with it has their head in the sand. The most impactful free agent we signed in the last 20 years or so was James Posey, who was a fine final piece to a champsionship team but that's it. 

    Besides I read just the other day on this forum that Kevin Love was overrated, so it must be true.

     
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    Our championship year we signed another good free agent that made a difference with his size and experience.  He is from Winnfield, Louisiana, who is he?

     
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    Re: Rondo, feeding Love and Sullinger?

    In response to Fierce34's comment:
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    I understand Kevin Love can opt out of his contract after the 2014-15 season. Sounds good to me! I'll wager a bob or two that the idea sounds good to DA, also.

     

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    Sounds good to us all.

     

    The question is does it sound good to Kevin Love?

     

    Why would Kevin Love come to Boston when the Celts are a rebuilding team?

     

    Also, since the inception of the salary cap, the only big name free-agent the Celts were able to sign was a 35-year old Dominique Wilkins.

     

    Even KG didn't want to come to Boston at first because of racism.

     

    And if you were watching last night's game against Detroit, Sherrod said the Celts will unlikely get a star player in free-agency.

    Boston is not an attractive destination for big name free-agents.

    It is what it is.

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    Fierce why are you stil living in the 1970's man??? I feel bad for you. Time for a reality check dude....seriously.

     
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    Re: Rondo, feeding Love and Sullinger?

    In response to Fierce34's comment:
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    I understand Kevin Love can opt out of his contract after the 2014-15 season. Sounds good to me! I'll wager a bob or two that the idea sounds good to DA, also.

     

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    Sounds good to us all.

     

    The question is does it sound good to Kevin Love?

     

    Why would Kevin Love come to Boston when the Celts are a rebuilding team?

     

    Also, since the inception of the salary cap, the only big name free-agent the Celts were able to sign was a 35-year old Dominique Wilkins.

     

    Even KG didn't want to come to Boston at first because of racism.

     

    And if you were watching last night's game against Detroit, Sherrod said the Celts will unlikely get a star player in free-agency.

    Boston is not an attractive destination for big name free-agents.

    It is what it is.

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    Fierce, I suppose with your "KG at 1st didn't want to go to Boston because of racism" would apply to New York this summer as well when it took KG weeks to agree to LEAVE Boston for New York!!!!! So I suppose New York is a racist state too???

     
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    Re: Rondo, feeding Love and Sullinger?

    In response to Fierce34's comment:

     

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    Last I read, you were blaming Mployee8's racist remarks as the reason FAs don't want to come to Beantown.

    What's with you and rascism?

    Pud

     

     



    It's true.

     

     

    You were not a Celtic fan back in 2007?

     

    Before the Celts got Ray Allen, KG was presented with the idea of being traded to Boston.

    KG declined and the reason was racism in Boston.

    It was only when Ray became a Celtic that KG changed his mind.




    So what's true?  ... that you have blamed Mployee8's rascist comments as the reason FA's don't come to Beantown?

    Absolutely true!

    There is no one posting at BDC less qualified to discuss serious social issues than you.

    Your comments are little more than clownish bait to get you noticed.

    Pud

     
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    Fierce, I suppose with your "KG at 1st didn't want to go to Boston because of racism" would apply to New York this summer as well when it took KG weeks to agree to LEAVE Boston for New York!!!!! So I suppose New York is a racist state too???

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    Look, I'm not the one who said that.

    I'm merely sharing with you what was going on back in 2007.

    Also, I'm not living in the 1970s.

    It's a fact that Boston is NOT an attractive city for big name free-agents.

    Again, the last big name free-agent the Celts signed was a 35-year old Dominique Wilkins.

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    Fierce, I think that thinking is vastly overrated-that big time free agents don't want to come to Boston.  I heard Sherrod say that during the Pistons game too.  Just because Sherrod said it doesn't make it true.

    I believe part of Garnett NOT wanting to come to Boston was that he did not want to leave "Sota".  He is fiercely loyal and wanted to play his entire career there.  He also expressed wanting to get traded (initially) to a contender with warm weather.  He wanted at first to go to Phoenix to team up with Nash.  I'm not sure "racism" was a factor in KG's decision about Boston.

    Honestly, the Celtics really haven't gone after any big name free agents since before getting KG and Ray.  I don't call David West a big time FA.  And he was smart to go to Indiana when you look at where both teams were headed.  I'm sure it had nothing to do with "racism".

    You can bet that as this team and coach develops and gets better, FAs will want to come to Boston.  They'll come to Boston for one reason and one reason only - TO WIN.

     

     
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    We do realize Kevin Love is a white guy right, he is afraid of racism?

    KG didn't want to come to Boston because it's too white, he wanted to stay in Minnesota because everyone knows it's blacker than Atlanta...

    What the F does race have to do with it, Boston is cold as Mars, has miserable weather 3/4's of the year, isn't sunny with palm trees and models, that might be a reason... but the race card is BS.  

    Dumb, dumb, dumb... how will we ever evolve past the point of racism if we continue to point to race as the reason for everything?

     
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    Re: Rondo, feeding Love and Sullinger?

    In response to Fierce34's comment:
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    In response to bosoxmal's comment:

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    I understand Kevin Love can opt out of his contract after the 2014-15 season. Sounds good to me! I'll wager a bob or two that the idea sounds good to DA, also.

     

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    Sounds good to us all.

     

    The question is does it sound good to Kevin Love?

     

    Why would Kevin Love come to Boston when the Celts are a rebuilding team?

     

    Also, since the inception of the salary cap, the only big name free-agent the Celts were able to sign was a 35-year old Dominique Wilkins.

     

    Even KG didn't want to come to Boston at first because of racism.

     

    And if you were watching last night's game against Detroit, Sherrod said the Celts will unlikely get a star player in free-agency.

    Boston is not an attractive destination for big name free-agents.

    It is what it is.

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    With all due respect, I don't see that any of your negative points make much sense. For example. the reference to it being a rebuilding team: Rondo, Love, Sullinger, Bradley---you call that a rebuilding team? I call it a top contender! That's the point!

    Why should Love come to Boston? Same reason Russell did, plus it's the best (professional) sports town in the country. Question really is, "Why wouldn't he want to come play for the legendary Celtics, with, perhaps, one of the best coaches in the country. I see this glass as 90% full, not 10% empty.

     
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    While I don't agree with Fierce's statement about racism, it is my opinoin it  cannot be proven wrong.

    I was working in Wellesley at the time of Dee Brown.  The police there were....ah...unkind to strangers in general, including me, a white guy!

     

    So here is "my take" on Free Agents:

     

    in the era of the Big 3 - we didn't have, want or need any big name free agents, and the only time we weren't in on any trade talks was Mychal Thompson.

     

    In the Post big 3 era - we had two issues:

    1.  Our ownership group was too tight and stupid to go after free agents not named Dino Radja.

    2.  The salary cap had "slots" to fill.  If the slot wasn't used, you lost it - hence the signings of Nique and the X man.

     

     

    And, let's not forget the deaths of two #1 picks, and Stern's refusal to allow us to take Reggie's salary off the books!

     

    In the next era, we stunk!  No one wanted to come here.....because we stunk - had nothing to do with race.  ML was the coach, and Toine was our "best" player.

    Enough has been said about the Pitino era.................................

     

    Now - it gets interesting:

    Since 2007-2008 - we have been TOO FAR over the cap to attract any free agents.  Danny has drafted well (at least as well as any other team), and traded well.

    When we get under the cap, we will have as good a shot as anyone to sign a free agent.  For, I maintain, if you put enough green in their pocket, green will become their favorite color.

    I would suggest the weather has as much to do with our lack of signings as us being over the cap, too.

     

    But, I think Danny can sell tradtion, Stevens, Rondo and the fans to  that ONE free agent we need to get us very competitive.  We are a young team, but with the right players (I refuse to call them "pieces" - what is this, chess?), we can be right there with MIA and IND in a couple of years!

     
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    Racism exists everywhere, if it wasn't skin color it would be hair color, weight or something else...

     
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    Race and racism has absolutely NOTHING to do with Celtic free agent signings in the rebuild.  Only a racist himself would support such an ignorant position.

     
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    Dee Brown!

    http://www.nytimes.com/1990/09/26/us/wellesley-journal-mistaken-identity-or-case-of-racism.html

    The bank robber was described as a black man with light complexion, between 6 feet and 6 feet 2 inches tall. Mr. Brown, who played his college basketball at Jacksonville University in Florida, is 6 feet 1 inches tall, with dark skin. Ms. Edmondson is white.

    After checking his wallet, the police let Mr. Brown go, saying it was a case of mistaken identification.

    But Mr. Brown, his fiancee and his lawyer, Alan Margolies, think it may have been another outbreak of the racism that has sharply divided Boston in recent years and to citywide concern over the shooting of Charles Stuart and his wife, Carol, a year ago. A movie about the murder of Mrs. Stuart, which Mr. Stuart initially attributed to a black gunman, is to be shown on CBS-TV tonight, despite protests from her family.

    The police action against Mr. Brown has shaken Wellesley, a pleasant town of 27,052 citizens, all but a handful white. With its comfortable homes, its country club and the bucolic campus of Wellesley College, Wellesley does not like to think of itself as racist.

    But Monday night the Board of Selectmen held a meeting, attended by 200 residents and the chief of police, John K. Fritts, to discuss the incident. Ronald R. Cloutier, one of the Selectmen, said to Mr. Fritts, ''One of the questions I keep being asked is: 'Would this have occurred if Mr. Brown had been a white person.' ''

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    You conveniently left out the parts that vindicate the police action ... this wasn't racism... It wasn't even profiling. The dispatch the police received said Brown was the same person that had robbed the bank. The police would have been derelict in their duties had they not stopped Brown based on the info you left out;

     

    The police had just received a call from the manager of a branch of the South Shore Bank across the street that a person resembling a man who had robbed the bank of $1,800 on Tuesday was outside the post office. The manager acted after a secretary, sitting at the window, saw Mr. Brown go into the post office.

     


    Ronald R. Cloutier, one of the Selectmen, said to Mr. Fritts, ''One of the questions I keep being asked is: 'Would this have occurred if Mr. Brown had been a white person.' ''

    ''Exactly the same procedure would have been followed,'' Chief Fritts responded.


    When the bank manager called the police she said a man who looked ''strangely like'' the robber was across the street. But when the police dispatcher then put out the alarm, he said it was the same person as the robber.

    Was this the result of incompetence, racism or a simple mistake?

     

     

    http://www.bostonmagazine.com/scripts/print/article.php?asset_idx=217484


    Brown doesn’t want anyone to get the wrong idea: He loves Boston. “One incident happens and people dwell on it. It happens in every city, but Boston is stigmatized by it,” Brown says. He repeatedly tells me that he has nothing but fond memories of playing here, that he wishes people would know the whole story before so quickly judging the city. “If you go back in history, especially with the Celtics, they had the first black player. The first black coach. There are a lot of things people forget to put in there. There are racial problems in every city. You go to the wrong neighborhood in any city and you’re black or you’re white or Hispanic or Italian or Irish, you might be in the wrong place.”

    Despite defending Boston to anyone who will listen, and especially to me, Brown acknowledges that altering the perception of the city is a difficult task. He knows because he’s tried, making his case to players and journalists alike. He hasn’t gotten very far. Most of the bitterness toward Boston is so deeply rooted now that it feels almost impossible to change anyone’s mind. A lot of it goes back decades, festering for as long as some people have been alive. “People think the core of Boston is Italian and Irish,” Brown says. “The Celtic. The Patriot. The Tea Party. Paul Revere. It’s that history.... Being from Florida or the South, people would say to me, ‘Boston’s just like Up South.’ That’s what they called it: Up South.”


    There is an undeniable paradox in a New England city ostensibly filled with progressives, located in a state run by the nation’s second black governor, being repeatedly described as bigoted. Because in some ways things have changed, and so has Boston. Where once the town’s heroes were white men named Yaz and Larry, today the biggest stars, along with Tom Brady, are unquestionably Papi and Manny, KG and Randy Moss—men who defy old stereotypes about who Boston will or won’t embrace.

    “In the case of Boston, what’s interesting is that it’s known for certain ethnicities—Irish and Italian,” says University of Southern California professor Todd Boyd, one of ESPN’s go-to experts on matters of race. “But it’s never been seen as a black city. On the other hand, it has a reputation for being a liberal city. That’s ironic, and I think, for some people, that’s a bit of a contradiction that’s caused some confusion. Well, how can a city with such a liberal history be racist? These are the things that need to be discussed. We need to talk about it openly.”

    During his three seasons in Boston, Celtics center Al Jefferson was willing to discuss the issue of racism, though he never quite understood what the big deal was. “People always ask me if it’s true, if Boston’s like that,” says Jefferson, 22, a Mississippi native. “The only thing I have bad to say about Boston is it’s cold. I never experienced anything bad about Boston. Never. The only time I ever hear about it is when I go back home and the older cats ask me about Boston. Tell you the truth, I didn’t even know it was a big issue.” Jefferson, of course, was traded from Boston to Minnesota in the deal that made Garnett the Hub’s latest crush. “Kevin Garnett is in for the most glorious experience of his life,” says Bill Walton, who spent three years in a Celtics uniform, and who now does NBA commentary for ESPN.

     

    And I bet the KG will confirm both Jefferson's and Walton's comments.

    The real bigots are people like Fungus who ignorantly keep the lie alive by spreading stories like he did here and referring to the city as racist along with those that live here. He's not even in the country! What does he know other than what he hears or reads and even then he only absorbs the part of the written word that he's interested in using to project his biased side of the story in every argument he makes.

     
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