Re: Rondo lovers please answer this...
posted at 3/3/2011 3:30 PM EST
In Response to Re: Rondo lovers please answer this...
[QUOTE]Eldunker, you seem to have dismissed ONE HALF OF THE GAME OF BASKETBALL in two words. Defense isn't just one in a list of basketball skills - it is more important than any three, four, five, etc. set of offensive skills. You mentioned Chris Paul AND Derrick Rose, but didn't make the Rose comparison. Let me do it for you: Rose is the best or near the best PGs in the league in scoring, getting to the rim, providing energy, FT shooting, and ability to hit an open or contested jumper. He is nowhere near the top in assists, rebounds or ANY DEFENSIVE skill. You are flat out wrong in saying that Rondo is the least efficient scorer, no doubt because you don't know what "efficient scorer" means. In fact, Rondo is one of the top four PGs in scoring efficiency. He shoots 51% from the floor. THAT is efficiency. You also forgot to mention that Rondo is fine at hitting open jumpers, hence his 45% shooting. You are also wrong in attributing his open looks merely to defensive choice. Some of the reasons he gets so many open looks is that he uses picks well, ball fakes well, and uses his quickness to get separation from defenders, many of whom try to stay reasonably close to him so he won't easily pick their team apart with his passing. Other than that, you are OK.
Posted by jerrycole[/QUOTE]
Rondo does whatever he can possibly do to avoid shooting, he is within 2 feet of the basket and kicks it out to someone 25 feet away because he can't finish nor can he shoot free throws.
Coincidentally he has 4 of the greatest scorers in the history of the league to pass the ball to.
Conversely Rose can finish, can shoot, can shoot free throws and does not have 4 hall of famers to pass the ball to.
What he does do is make his teammates better, conversely Rondo was in junior high when it was already obvious that the 4 guys that he plays with were going to the hall of fame.
All of that said - Rose can finish, shoot, shoot 3s, shoot free throws and does not avoid shooting..... so........ he does not have more assists because?????? He does not look to avoid shooting, avoid going to the line, etc.
So the way I look at it and have posted any number of times..... prior to trading Perk and when he was a starter, the Cs played 3 against 5 on offense with Rondo passing the ball only when it is apparent he will get an assist and then is p issed that the guy he passed it to makes the additional pass..... Rose on the other hand realizes that he is actually part of the offense and one of the 5 guys on the floor that are responsible for scoring......
Rose is an MVP candidate because he is head and shoulders above Rondo.... Rondo is a two time (and never again) all-star because of whom he plays with.
For the millionth time..... there are a dozen point guards in the league who if teamed with the four hall of famers would be no worse off and in many cases a lot better.
Rose and Paul are certainly two of the 1s that make them better.
I know, I know the automatic response is "Rondo is perfect for this team" and I respond the perception is that he is perfect for this team because "they don't need scoring", "he is a pass first point guard", and all that other crap.
Last time they played the Bulls Rose embarrassed Rondo off the floor and the Bulls dominated. Good thing Rondo is "perfect for the team"..... cliches create wonderful excuses for someone who is vastly overrated and significantly less than what any objective fan would call a complete player.