Rondo the conclusion

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    Watching the Celtics try to bring the ball up the court during the last four games should be prove beyond a doubt that Rondo is essential to their team.  I have never seen such inept ballhandling by the Celtics. Bradley is a combo guard who while he may improve he will be limited. Courtenay Lee does not even play and this team appears incapable of setting up on offense.

     

    Rondo had fallen into some bad habits but with any doubt he was essential to this team and they have floundered incredibly the last month or so.  Next year there is no way to predict what will happen other than to say you won't be able to pick on Rondo because you have seen how bad they are without him.

     
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    Watching the Celtics try to bring the ball up the court during the last four games should be prove beyond a doubt that Rondo is essential to their team.  I have never seen such inept ballhandling by the Celtics. Bradley is a combo guard who while he may improve he will be limited. Courtenay Lee does not even play and this team appears incapable of setting up on offense.

     

    Rondo had fallen into some bad habits but with any doubt he was essential to this team and they have floundered incredibly the last month or so.  Next year there is no way to predict what will happen other than to say you won't be able to pick on Rondo because you have seen how bad they are without him.




    Be careful.  You are going to get a hoard descending upon you.  Just to clarify, you did not say that Rondo is a franchise player.  You just said that he is critical to the Celts.  Right?

     
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    Ditto!

     
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    If all else fails let JG take it coast to coast! The Knicks did not have an answer for JG when he drove the b-ball baseline to baseline! 

     
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    Watching the Celtics try to bring the ball up the court during the last four games should be prove beyond a doubt that Rondo is essential to their team.  I have never seen such inept ballhandling by the Celtics. Bradley is a combo guard who while he may improve he will be limited. Courtenay Lee does not even play and this team appears incapable of setting up on offense.

     

    Rondo had fallen into some bad habits but with any doubt he was essential to this team and they have floundered incredibly the last month or so.  Next year there is no way to predict what will happen other than to say you won't be able to pick on Rondo because you have seen how bad they are without him.



    how can you say this?  we have NO POINT GUARD ON THE ROSTER RIGHT NOW- that's the problem, eh?!  so rondo can handle the ball.  whoopeee, that's a PG's job!  now if you really want to admit that you think rondo starving the team of tempo, ball movement and altering the roles of all other players so he can pound the ball into the floor for 19/24 seconds at the top of the paint is good for the team, that's something else.

     

    all this team and any team needs is a basic point guard, nothing flashy with ball fakes, just a 35% on 3's, 17 pts a night, 7 or 8 dimes a game, decent on defense type of point guard who can HIT FREE THROWS and HIT OPEN J's.  that's not rondo.  it never has been.  the fact that as time has gone on there has been an inverse relationship between him progressing toward what he should be and what he ACTUALLY IS in basic competencies is alarming. 


    "head case" written all over it.  let him go be someone else's enigma if you can even find a fool team to dish 25 MILLION his way the next two years for all 62.1 percentage points of his free throw accuracy problem

     
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    Be careful.  You are going to get a hoard descending upon you.  Just to clarify, you did not say that Rondo is a franchise player.  You just said that he is critical to the Celts.  Right?

     



    can we just cut through the cognitive dissonance and make a bold statement that HAVING SOME POINT GUARD FUNCTIONALITY (at all whatsoever) is critical to ANY TEAM?  isn't it?  we don't have any right now!  other than old pierce trying to do it with mirrors and a couple of other 2 guards trying but not succeeding to pretend to be a PG.  it all goes back to danny're more-often-than-not failure to have ANY backup PG on the roster for rondo. 

     

    there is nothing rondo-exclusive about basic point guard functionality.  if he was in there the paint would be knotted up tight with his man sagging down into it what with rondo shooting 24% from 3 and all, and his basic nightly refusal to stroke open jumpers.

     
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    I'm holding to my vow to not say much about Rondo until Celts playoff fate is settled :) 

     
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    Watching the Celtics try to bring the ball up the court during the last four games should be prove beyond a doubt that Rondo is essential to their team.  I have never seen such inept ballhandling by the Celtics. Bradley is a combo guard who while he may improve he will be limited. Courtenay Lee does not even play and this team appears incapable of setting up on offense.

     

    Rondo had fallen into some bad habits but with any doubt he was essential to this team and they have floundered incredibly the last month or so.  Next year there is no way to predict what will happen other than to say you won't be able to pick on Rondo because you have seen how bad they are without him.

     



    how can you say this?  we have NO POINT GUARD ON THE ROSTER RIGHT NOW- that's the problem, eh?!  so rondo can handle the ball.  whoopeee, that's a PG's job!  now if you really want to admit that you think rondo starving the team of tempo, ball movement and altering the roles of all other players so he can pound the ball into the floor for 19/24 seconds at the top of the paint is good for the team, that's something else.

     

     

    all this team and any team needs is a basic point guard, nothing flashy with ball fakes, just a 35% on 3's, 17 pts a night, 7 or 8 dimes a game, decent on defense type of point guard who can HIT FREE THROWS and HIT OPEN J's.  that's not rondo.  it never has been.  the fact that as time has gone on there has been an inverse relationship between him progressing toward what he should be and what he ACTUALLY IS in basic competencies is alarming. 


    "head case" written all over it.  let him go be someone else's enigma if you can even find a fool team to dish 25 MILLION his way the next two years for all 62.1 percentage points of his free throw accuracy problem



    Right. this team would be better with any decent pg.  Which Rondo is.

    So you agree with the OP apparently.

     
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    I do agree that it is amazing that Ainge never got a real back up pg and just shoved a bunch of combo gaurds over there.

    Makes no sense.

     
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    Rondo is a point guard that can bring up the ball, breaks up that tight defensive pressure bc the defender knows he is way too fast and can blow past him with ease. 

     

    He is also a point guard who sets people up for EASY shots. Its not a coincidence that the team has been forced to shoot mainly contested jumpers since Rondo went down. When he was in the lineup, the team had WIDE OPEN SHOTS on the regular. We havent seen Pierce have to work this hard to get a shot up since..well, 07. 

     

    And finally, Rondo is a point guard who understands what the team needs, especially in the playoffs. These dry spells on O we have game after game after game after game, would be greatly lessened with a guard who can get to the rim aaaanytime he wants, and flat out takes over playoff games on the regular.

     

    Its obv we miss our starting point guard. Its good to see him on the sidelines cheering, encouraging, and coaching our guys. I find it hilarious, the people that sit and claim, "He is selfish, doesnt care about the team, and is a cancer." Its hilarious bc you see what he brings on the court, his teammates all rave about him constantly, and even in light of his injury, you can see him on the sidelines showing his emotions and how much he cares about this team. 

     
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    Rondo is a point guard that can bring up the ball, breaks up that tight defensive pressure bc the defender knows he is way too fast and can blow past him with ease. 

     

    He is also a point guard who sets people up for EASY shots. Its not a coincidence that the team has been forced to shoot mainly contested jumpers since Rondo went down. When he was in the lineup, the team had WIDE OPEN SHOTS on the regular. We havent seen Pierce have to work this hard to get a shot up since..well, 07. 

     

    And finally, Rondo is a point guard who understands what the team needs, especially in the playoffs. These dry spells on O we have game after game after game after game, would be greatly lessened with a guard who can get to the rim aaaanytime he wants, and flat out takes over playoff games on the regular.

     

    Its obv we miss our starting point guard. Its good to see him on the sidelines cheering, encouraging, and coaching our guys. I find it hilarious, the people that sit and claim, "He is selfish, doesnt care about the team, and is a cancer." Its hilarious bc you see what he brings on the court, his teammates all rave about him constantly, and even in light of his injury, you can see him on the sidelines showing his emotions and how much he cares about this team. 




    The Celtics would most likely be ahead 3 to 1 rather than down 1 to 3 if Rondo was playing.  We had the lead in two games in the fourth, Rondo would have kept them.

     
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    Watching the Celtics try to bring the ball up the court during the last four games should be prove beyond a doubt that Rondo is essential to their team.  I have never seen such inept ballhandling by the Celtics. Bradley is a combo guard who while he may improve he will be limited. Courtenay Lee does not even play and this team appears incapable of setting up on offense.

     

    Rondo had fallen into some bad habits but with any doubt he was essential to this team and they have floundered incredibly the last month or so.  Next year there is no way to predict what will happen other than to say you won't be able to pick on Rondo because you have seen how bad they are without him.

     



    how can you say this?  we have NO POINT GUARD ON THE ROSTER RIGHT NOW- that's the problem, eh?!  so rondo can handle the ball.  whoopeee, that's a PG's job!  now if you really want to admit that you think rondo starving the team of tempo, ball movement and altering the roles of all other players so he can pound the ball into the floor for 19/24 seconds at the top of the paint is good for the team, that's something else.

     

     

    all this team and any team needs is a basic point guard, nothing flashy with ball fakes, just a 35% on 3's, 17 pts a night, 7 or 8 dimes a game, decent on defense type of point guard who can HIT FREE THROWS and HIT OPEN J's.  that's not rondo.  it never has been.  the fact that as time has gone on there has been an inverse relationship between him progressing toward what he should be and what he ACTUALLY IS in basic competencies is alarming. 


    "head case" written all over it.  let him go be someone else's enigma if you can even find a fool team to dish 25 MILLION his way the next two years for all 62.1 percentage points of his free throw accuracy problem

     



    Right. this team would be better with any decent pg.  Which Rondo is.

     

    So you agree with the OP apparently.




    Faulty logic. Why would he bring up Rondo and his multiple foibles if he thought he was a decent PG? You believe Rondo is a decent PG. Just say it. Most time less is better.

    Here's some real logic: A pencil is essential to writing when you don't have anything else.That pencil needs to be sharpened routinely and eventually replaced. Preferably you would like a pen that needs no maintenence and has a longer shelf life. If one absolutely has to have a pencil you prefer to be as backup.

    Rondo is our lone pencil that is blunted and is about half the size that he used to be. He is not only afraid of the sharpener but is currently broken. Some people try to save a broken pencil out of frugality or loyality. Sometimes it can continue to work.Most times it becomes history. What has become absolutely essential to the C's is the addition of a Pen. And it doesn't have to be a fancy one either...

     
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    Pencil vs. Pen?

    You can erase what you write with a pencil using a pencil eraser. But there is no such a thing as a pen eraser or a pen sharpener!

    HAHAHAHAHAHA




    I guess you haven't heard of white out. Topped again, my man...

     
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    you use a wite-out exact liner, then make a copy. pretty close to perfect. ;) are we really having this conversation? lol

     
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    Watching the Celtics try to bring the ball up the court during the last four games should be prove beyond a doubt that Rondo is essential to their team.  I have never seen such inept ballhandling by the Celtics. Bradley is a combo guard who while he may improve he will be limited. Courtenay Lee does not even play and this team appears incapable of setting up on offense.

     

    Rondo had fallen into some bad habits but with any doubt he was essential to this team and they have floundered incredibly the last month or so.  Next year there is no way to predict what will happen other than to say you won't be able to pick on Rondo because you have seen how bad they are without him.

     



    how can you say this?  we have NO POINT GUARD ON THE ROSTER RIGHT NOW- that's the problem, eh?!  so rondo can handle the ball.  whoopeee, that's a PG's job!  now if you really want to admit that you think rondo starving the team of tempo, ball movement and altering the roles of all other players so he can pound the ball into the floor for 19/24 seconds at the top of the paint is good for the team, that's something else.

     

     

    all this team and any team needs is a basic point guard, nothing flashy with ball fakes, just a 35% on 3's, 17 pts a night, 7 or 8 dimes a game, decent on defense type of point guard who can HIT FREE THROWS and HIT OPEN J's.  that's not rondo.  it never has been.  the fact that as time has gone on there has been an inverse relationship between him progressing toward what he should be and what he ACTUALLY IS in basic competencies is alarming. 


    "head case" written all over it.  let him go be someone else's enigma if you can even find a fool team to dish 25 MILLION his way the next two years for all 62.1 percentage points of his free throw accuracy problem

     



    Right. this team would be better with any decent pg.  Which Rondo is.

     

    So you agree with the OP apparently.

     




    Faulty logic. Why would he bring up Rondo and his multiple foibles if he thought he was a decent PG? You believe Rondo is a decent PG. Just say it. Most time less is better.

     

    Here's some real logic: A pencil is essential to writing when you don't have anything else.That pencil needs to be sharpened routinely and eventually replaced. Preferably you would like a pen that needs no maintenence and has a longer shelf life. If one absolutely has to have a pencil you prefer to be as backup.

    Rondo is our lone pencil that is blunted and is about half the size that he used to be. He is not only afraid of the sharpener but is currently broken. Some people try to save a broken pencil out of frugality or loyality. Sometimes it can continue to work.Most times it becomes history. What has become absolutely essential to the C's is the addition of a Pen. And it doesn't have to be a fancy one either...

     



    This team need a decent pg.  Any decent pg.

     

    Sometimes less is better.

     

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