Tainted Championship

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    You guys are HANDS DOWN the soarest losers in all of professional sports.  ANY of your teams loses it's ALWAYS the refs fault, and yet, when your teams are winning, you talk BY FAR the most shyt of anyone in sports.  See 2007 Pats for reference on that one.  "They'd smoke ANY team in history".  Yeah f'ing right, except for the Giants that year I guess.

    Patriots?  NFL wants Peyton OR Eli to win.  How f'ing childish is that???

    And you wonder why people are "trolling" on your boards after the Celtics lose.

    It's called payback cry babies.
     
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    Bob, The guy playing with the loaded dice calls the guys who caught him poor losers.  Yeah-- that works. 
    Posted by thrombosis


    The guy with a losers mentality says things like this in defeat. The guy that needs to cover his loss with excuses is childish. The dice weren't loaded when the Celtics humiliated the Lakers in Game six in 2008 to win the title. Now, three years later, a championship is tainted, according to some sore losers? I think it is no coincidence that every fanbase calls foul when their teams lose. Nobody's team ever just simply loses anymore, all losses are due to foul play according to the losers. This isn't just a disease, it is a pandemic, and it would seem the Celtic fan base is infected just like the rest.

    I saw the same kind of BS being thrown around by Laker fans after all the losses in the series, and it embarrassed me. I don't think this is a Boston fan problem. This is a weak azz society problem. Whether on the winning side or losing side, it is a pathetic pathology. The childishness of our adult population is shameful.
     
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    yes we could have rebouned better and yes Ray Allen could have shot better...but the bottom line is the Lakers were playing worse that the Celtics and the refs gave them 24 foul shots in the fourth quarter. Watch it again. Repeated bad judgment calls going against the Celtics with similar plays being no calls when it was a Celtic offensive player. This championship was stolen. In my mind and in everyone's mind it should be described as the "Tainted Championship"."
     
    the refs are biased to galmour glitter and superstars  and la of course

    and the Celts were so close

    seriously  IF  Celts won 
    I would NOT be at the enemy teams forum looking for ego stroking

    fakir fans as fake as their jollywood altars


    Why are any of you here??

    WHY??

    IF you are so smart and/or tuff
      Why not join the US Army and go fight??

    Oh I see..
    better things to do

    Got it!
     
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    Bob,

    The guy playing with the loaded dice calls the guys who caught him poor losers.  Yeah-- that works. 
     
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    3-4 minutes and no points by the Cs.  As I watched that period,  I thought, "there goes the championship because a rejuvenated Laker team will start scoring and the C's will not be able to match them." I'm not a basketball afficionado, just your average Jane, but i've watched enough of these games to know you must keep fighting every single moment and the C's let up just long enough for the Lakers to come back.  Just before that drought Pao looked like he might faint, he emerged w just enough energy to finish up.  Incidentally, for this game my MVP would have been Ron Artest who just kept raining threes.  That's what the C's should add for next year.
     
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    You guys are HANDS DOWN the soarest losers in all of professional sports.  ANY of your teams loses it's ALWAYS the refs fault, and yet, when your teams are winning, you talk BY FAR the most shyt of anyone in sports.  See 2007 Pats for reference on that one.  "They'd smoke ANY team in history".  Yeah f'ing right, except for the Giants that year I guess. Patriots?  NFL wants Peyton OR Eli to win.  How f'ing childish is that??? And you wonder why people are "trolling" on your boards after the Celtics lose. It's called payback cry babies.
    Posted by Casportsfan


    Payback??  You think the Lakers winning their 3rd championship (tainted) against the Celtics in 12 tries is PAYBACK??  LMAO

    Your darlings of David Stern have a long way to go for that.

    DOc outcoached that wallflower Jackson by a mile. Kobe was pathetic in most of the series, especially game 7.. Oh, hes so determined and zoned in ROFL

    A 4 point, ref assisted win in game 7 with the Celtics starting center unable to play thanks to a clumsey, unable to control his body anDeeeerew Bynum doesnt payback 131-92.

    See, 1,000's of people remember that game and even the score.. You can never PAYBACK that one, chump. 

    9-3 all time... Lakers need to beat Celtics 7 more times in the finals to get PAYBCK.. hold your breath, please...

    Just like the ASTERISK * on the Lakers 2002 phony championship, 2010 is no different..

    *****  ***** *** ** ** * * ** * *


     
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    You know, there are times that a ref does decide a game.  Times where there is one horrific call that determines the outcome.

    Game 6 LA/Kings blocking foul on Bibby was horrendous.  That call may have won the series for the Lakers.  There was no call remotely close to that that had that type of affect on this 2010 series. None.  If anything, the Rondo smack of Odoms' arm is the closest thing, because it game Boston life at the end of the game.

    Then again, going back to the Kings series, Kings didn't secure the rebound at the end of game 4, allowing Horry to hit the winning shot.  Kings were afraid to shoot in game 7 in overtime.

    Even after all the kings F ups, I can still admit that ONE CALL affected the series.  You guys would NEVER do that.  EVER.  You'd never admit the Celtics were on the good side of anything, unless it had zero outcome on the final result.

    Were the Kings a better team in 2002?  YES.  I think they were more talented and should have won. We got lucky at the end of game 3, and a lot of things went our way.  And yes, we got the call at the end of game 6 against Bibby.

    But bottom line, WINNING TEAMS MAKE PLAYS, losers BLAME REFS.  If the Kings secure the rebound or make a shot in game 7 OT, they win. They didn't, so they lost, and they deserved to lose for not making clutch plays.

    Celtics are a great team, but they deserved to lose.  They couldn't make plays when it counted. Allen couldn't hit a shot.

    End of story.
     
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    Bob, I note you could refute nothing I said, but just called it childish rubbish.  No, Steve Nash was not just full of "childish rubbish" when he protested the Gasol "trade" saying that, "a  big gift was just given to the Lakers".  No Jeff Van Gundy was not full of "childish rubbish" 2 weeks ago when he said LA "hi-jacked" Gasol (as in illegally took something that was not theirs).  Why don't you go on a Phoenix or San Antonio board and ask their opinion as to whether the Gasol "trade" smelling fishy is just "childish rubbish".  Now, allowing  retired Aaron Mckie's new contract to give the Laker cap space was indeed rubbish. Accepting tampering with competitive balance by having a player like Gasol sent to an over-the-cap team, for an offer many teams would have trumpted in a heartbeat, cannot be whisked away be merely saying "expiring contracts".  The NBA is not supposed to be baseball where some teams are expected to play with wildly unfair advantages.  In baseball the teams actually vote to let the Yankees (and other biggest market teams) play with a stacked deck. 
    Posted by thrombosis

    From Wikipedia:
    "After the season, Auerbach completed what may be the most lopsided trade in NBA history. Auerbach had always been a fan of stockpiling draft picks, so even after the success of 1979–80 the Celtics had both the 1st and 13th picks in the 1980 NBA Draft left over from the M. L. Carr trade. Auerbach saw an opportunity to improve the team immediately, sending the two picks to the Golden State Warriors in exchange for center Robert Parish and the Warriors first round pick, the 3rd overall. With the draft pick, Auerbach selected University of Minnesota power forward Kevin McHale. With these three future Hall of Famers on the team the Celtics had a core in place to become a dominant team in the NBA."
    So much for the Gasol hi-jacking.I think the Celtics have had a few "Gasol gifts" of their own.
     
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    In Response to Re: Tainted Championship : Payback??  You think the Lakers winning their 3rd championship (tainted) against the Celtics in 12 tries is PAYBACK??  LMAO Your darlings of David Stern have a long way to go for that. DOc outcoached that wallflower Jackson by a mile. Kobe was pathetic in most of the series, especially game 7.. Oh, hes so determined and zoned in ROFL A 4 point, ref assisted win in game 7 with the Celtics starting center unable to play thanks to a clumsey, unable to control his body anDeeeerew Bynum doesnt payback 131-92. See, 1,000's of people remember that game and even the score.. You can never PAYBACK that one, chump.  9-3 all time... Lakers need to beat Celtics 7 more times in the finals to get PAYBCK.. hold your breath, please... Just like the ASTERISK * on the Lakers 2002 phony championship, 2010 is no different.. *****  ***** *** ** ** * * ** * *
    Posted by Karllost


    Hahah, every time you Celt fans yank your panties into a wad like this, the victory, the payback, the glory, it is oh so much sweeter. Feel it loser, feel the agony of a game seven heart breaker as the loss consumes you.  All this gibber jabber and angst just make revenge that much sweeter. The more excuses the better from the losers lets us know just how bad this is killing you. Celtic pride reduced to the ashes of whining, excuses, deflecting blame, yea boy, do it. Sure you dominated in Black and white, but since the televisions got color, it is all Lakers. So you stay in the land of "I Love Lucy" and seethe is the agony of defeat of the here and now.
     
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    In Response to Re: Tainted Championship : Payback??  You think the Lakers winning their 3rd championship (tainted) against the Celtics in 12 tries is PAYBACK??  LMAO Your darlings of David Stern have a long way to go for that. DOc outcoached that wallflower Jackson by a mile. Kobe was pathetic in most of the series, especially game 7.. Oh, hes so determined and zoned in ROFL A 4 point, ref assisted win in game 7 with the Celtics starting center unable to play thanks to a clumsey, unable to control his body anDeeeerew Bynum doesnt payback 131-92. See, 1,000's of people remember that game and even the score.. You can never PAYBACK that one, chump.  9-3 all time... Lakers need to beat Celtics 7 more times in the finals to get PAYBCK.. hold your breath, please... Just like the ASTERISK * on the Lakers 2002 phony championship, 2010 is no different.. *****  ***** *** ** ** * * ** * *
    Posted by Karllost


    LOL c'mon dude, seriously.  If LA had lost I'd just accept it.  Did you see me making excuses after games 4 and 5?  Go check my posts if you disagree.

    I said Boston made more hustle plays, bench played better, crowd helped them. I said it would reverse in L.A.

    If Boston has homecourt maybe they win the series.  Probably do, because they get a whistle or two hear and there and the crowd energizes THEIR comeback like it did in game 4 when they were 2 pts down doing into the 4th.

    I can admit these teams are even, but someone had to win.  I never thought there would be this many excuses afterwards. 
     
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    Barack Obama was not born in Kenya, he is not the Manchurian Candidate, he is not a socialist and the refs did not favor the Lakers.
     
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    In Response to Re: Tainted Championship : http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/4325 Gasol was drafted by the Lakers, and his rights were traded as part of the deal. I thought you were a basketball fan. Maybe you shouldn't be so quick to criticize something you know so little about.  
    Posted by Bobbarcker



    Exactly - he never played for the lakers and his RIGHTS were traded as part of the deal
     
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    In Response to Re: Tainted Championship : Exactly - he never played for the lakers and his RIGHTS were traded as part of the deal
    Posted by OPKIII


    Yes, just as I originally stated, the Lakers gave up Marc Gasol as part of the deal, since they had his rights. Whether or not he actually played for the Lakers is inconsequential. The Grizzlies got a 15 and 10 young stud as part of their future, which is what they were looking after, their future. If you can't see that I was clearly correct the first time, and you were in fact incorrect when trying to chastise me for lack of knowledge, you are a moron. Gasol was property of the Lakers, and they traded him to Memphis in that deal, just like I said.

    You said they aquired a pick that became Marc Gasol, which is in fact incorrect. So take the exactly.... as if you were correct, and know you were wrong.
     
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    In Response to Re: Tainted Championship : Hahah, every time you Celt fans yank your panties into a wad like this, the victory, the payback, the glory, it is oh so much sweeter. Feel it loser, feel the agony of a game seven heart breaker as the loss consumes you.  All this gibber jabber and angst just make revenge that much sweeter. The more excuses the better from the losers lets us know just how bad this is killing you. Celtic pride reduced to the ashes of whining, excuses, deflecting blame, yea boy, do it. Sure you dominated in Black and white, but since the televisions got color, it is all Lakers. So you stay in the land of "I Love Lucy" and seethe is the agony of defeat of the here and now.
    Posted by Bobbarcker


    LOL so well put and so very true.  There was almost a genuineness to the Celtic/Laker trash talk and a uniqueness to it that made it special.  It was something so specific to these towns and rivals that it just added an unimaginable flavor to the series.  But hearing these guys continue the whine after it's all said and done makes me realize that none of that was real, this is just who a lot of them are.  They can't and don't turn it off then the series ends.  They just continue.

    I was on this board after game 4 and 5, supporting L.A., giving Boston it's due, trying to find REAL reasons for the outcomes of those games, none of which included a single call by the refs.

    In contrast, these guys just couldn't wait to get their excuses out, ALL OF WHICH are centered on the referees.  I don't think I'll ever engage in the trash talk again. It was fun and part of the series, but I thought once it ended we'd just admit who the better team was when a winner was crowned.

    I was completely wrong on that one.
     
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    In Response to Re: Tainted Championship : Oh, you haven't been around too many lawyers have you.  They are the most foul mouthed, insulting people you'll find anywhere.  Arrogant as well.  But ignoring that part; I'm sorry.  A lot of you guys deserve this.  You RAN your mouths up and down after game 5.  A lot of the laker fans tried to be logical, tried to be even, but you guys just talk and talk.  "Doc outcoaching Phil", "lakers reverted back to old soft ways", "Pau can't play", "Kobe is ruining the team, ball hogging" . . . . . So when you found out all of that WASN'T true, you had to find another excuse, because if Doc WAS outcoaching Phil, if the Lakers WERE soft, if Kobe DID destroy the team with his ball hogging, then there was NO WAY the Celtics should have lost.  But they did. As a result, you have the corny referee backdoor excuse, since theories A, B, C, and D didn't hold up . . . . Yeah, the NBA is colluding against a team with 17 titles.  Makes a lot of sense. So now you do have to eat it man.  You talk like that, you have to eat the goddamn crow afterwards. Again, that's life.   Don't talk if you can't handle the heat.   I've been on this board EVERY GAME , win, lose or draw, and I'd have manned up and accepted the outcome if Lakers had lost, as I did after games 4 and 5.  I said it was hustle, home court, and bench play, and I said it would reverse in games 6 and 7 when LA had homecourt. I DIDN'T WHINE ABOUT THE REFS AFTER THOSE GAMES. You did.  That's really the bottom line.
    Posted by Casportsfan


    Tell me, from what match book cover did you get your "Advanced College" degree.  A lawyer may SAY things behind people's back, but never WRITE them.  For they all know, if you have to use foul language to make your point, it's a sure sign of ignorance.  Now, YOU SHOW ME where I complained about the refs after a loss.  ONE POST - I'll wait
     
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    In Response to Re: Tainted Championship : Tell me, from what match book cover did you get your "Advanced College" degree.  A lawyer may SAY things behind people's back, but never WRITE them.  For they all know, if you have to use foul language to make your point, it's a sure sign of ignorance.  Now, YOU SHOW ME where I complained about the refs after a loss.  ONE POST - I'll wait
    Posted by OPKIII


    I'm not a lawyer and I'm not writing a legal brief.  I am sure there are plenty that blog about sports and let their emotions go.

    Look, Boston is and was a great team.  Regardless of how disgusting the complaining portion of the fanbase gets, that doesn't change the reality of how good Boston is.

    Knowing that, if they had won, I'd have just said "you're better".  Hell, if you look at MY posts, I even said before the game, "I'd not be suprised to see Boston win".  You didn't see me with a ready made excuse, I just expected a close game that could go either way.

    Maybe you personally didn't blame the refs, but look at the number of threads blaming them and all those supporting the content of the thread.  That's disgraceful, honestly.  It's a joke for either side to say that.

    I thought the refs took Kobe out of game 2, but I never once said "that's why they lost".  I saw Boston outshoot Lakers at the FT line 39-32 AT HOME in game 1, but it didn't even cross my even bring it up, and it wouldn't have if Lakers had lost.

    Enough is enough with this.   In fact, I am about done posting here, because half of these people make me sick and are turning an amazing championchip into a negative.

    And yes, I do realize this is a Boston blog site, so I'll take the adviced you're bound to give and others have and enjoy the sunny day and the victory.

    When all is said and done, the enjoyment of the victory is gone in a week anyway and it's off to next year.  With that in mind, I just think the Celt fans should admit defeat and focus on next year as well.  NO ONE will care about this a month from now.
     
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    In Response to Re: Tainted Championship : Yes, just as I originally stated, the Lakers gave up Marc Gasol as part of the deal, since they had his rights. Whether or not he actually played for the Lakers is inconsequential. The Grizzlies got a 15 and 10 young stud as part of their future, which is what they were looking after, their future. If you can't see that I was clearly correct the first time, and you were in fact incorrect when trying to chastise me for lack of knowledge, you are a moron. Gasol was property of the Lakers, and they traded him to Memphis in that deal, just like I said. You said they aquired a pick that became Marc Gasol, which is in fact incorrect. So take the exactly.... as if you were correct, and know you were wrong.
    Posted by Bobbarcker



    What were his stats again for the lakers, who drafted him?  If he was a 15 and 10 guy, why did they trade him, that's better than Bynum!!
     
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    In Response to Re: Tainted Championship : I'm not a lawyer and I'm not writing a legal brief.  I am sure there are plenty that blog about sports and let their emotions go. Look, Boston is and was a great team.  Regardless of how disgusting the complaining portion of the fanbase gets, that doesn't change the reality of how good Boston is. Knowing that, if they had won, I'd have just said "you're better".  Hell, if you look at MY posts, I even said before the game, "I'd not be suprised to see Boston win".  You didn't see me with a ready made excuse, I just expected a close game that could go either way. Maybe you personally didn't blame the refs, but look at the number of threads blaming them and all those supporting the content of the thread.  That's disgraceful, honestly.  It's a joke for either side to say that. I thought the refs took Kobe out of game 2, but I never once said "that's why they lost".  I saw Boston outshoot Lakers at the FT line 39-32 AT HOME in game 1, but it didn't even cross my even bring it up, and it wouldn't have if Lakers had lost. Enough is enough with this.   In fact, I am about done posting here, because half of these people make me sick and are turning an amazing championchip into a negative. And yes, I do realize this is a Boston blog site, so I'll take the adviced you're bound to give and others have and enjoy the sunny day and the victory. When all is said and done, the enjoyment of the victory is gone in a week anyway and it's off to next year.  With that in mind, I just think the Celt fans should admit defeat and focus on next year as well.  NO ONE will care about this a month from now.
    Posted by Casportsfan


    See, now that was a good post.  Only problem is you said the day after the championship (when MANY posters congratulated the lakers)  that you were off to celebrate.  And yet here you still are, whining about Game 2 (did you WIN that one, btw?  no?  Makes you no better than the people you are criticizing)  and still cursing and berating  people on here who come here every single day to celebrate, chastize, and now mourn over their team.  Leaving would be very good for your sanity, because it will only get worse - trust me on that!!
     
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    In Response to Re: Tainted Championship : The Grizzlies were trading for future potential, and Marc Gasol had lots of that. The cap space they got was about potential. Marc Gasol is thought of by many to have the potential to be better than Pau one day. The Lakers wanted production here and now, Memphis wanted to rebuild. You were still wrong, and just like the defeat in game seven, you can't accept it. You are making childish arguments when you should just admit you were wrong. The Lakers did not trade a draft pick that became Marc Gasol, they traded Marc Gasol, a guy they drafted for their own future as part of the deal. DO YOU UNDERSTAND? 
    Posted by Bobbarcker


    I WAS WRONG about the drafting of Marc Gasol.  He was drafted by the lakers.  However, to say the Grizz got a "15 and 10" guy is just as wrong as Kwame Brown was the center piece in that deal.  If Gasol never played, how did the Grizz know he would be good, and if he was that good, how come he never played a game for the lakers??
     
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    I know as sports fans the breaks are not supposed to be taken into account when a team loses. I know we should have won despite the horrendous advantage given to LA in the 4th quarter by the refs.  I know that bad reffing is just part of the game but really folks this takes the cake.  The lakers took 21 foul shots in the 4th quarter to 6 for the Celtics. They took 20 more for the game. What had been called fairly evenly for the entire game became totally one sided in the 4th. Gasol blocked Garnett...nope clearly a foul on Gasol. Gasol gets rebound over Rondo...when the announcers said Gasol might of gotten away with one there...they were right it was a huge uncalled foul. Garnett fouls Kobe....nope a real block. Pierce hacked by Kobe...nope he just lost the ball...even Kobe started to put his hand up on that one....Artest fouled by Pierce...should have been offensive or better yet no call as Artest had dipped his shoulder into Pierce just like all the no calls made the whole game when Kobe and Pierce did it. Gasol went up and down...nope not called. 20 more foul shots....21 foul shots in the 4th quarter..what does it mean.... It means the refs stole this from the Celtics and the lakers won a tainted championship.
    Posted by gtown07

    All I have to say to you is "The Tuck Rule" :-)

     
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    In Response to Re: Tainted Championship : What were his stats again for the lakers, who drafted him?  If he was a 15 and 10 guy, why did they trade him, that's better than Bynum!!
    Posted by OPKIII


    You are sidetracking the issue because you know you are wrong. Nobody claimed Marc Gasol played for the Lakers, not once. The Lakers did in point of fact trade Marc Gasol to the Griz, not a draft pick that became Marc Gasol, as you so incorrectly stated.

    The Grizzlies were trading for future potential, and Marc Gasol had lots of that. The cap space they got was about potential. Marc Gasol is thought of by many to have the potential to be better than Pau one day. The Lakers wanted production here and now, Memphis wanted to rebuild. You were still wrong, and just like the defeat in game seven, you can't accept it. You are making childish arguments when you should just admit you were wrong. The Lakers did not trade a draft pick that became Marc Gasol, they traded Marc Gasol, a guy they drafted for their own future as part of the deal. DO YOU UNDERSTAND? 
     
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    In Response to Re: Tainted Championship : I WAS WRONG about the drafting of Marc Gasol.  He was drafted by the lakers.  However, to say the Grizz got a "15 and 10" guy is just as wrong as Kwame Brown was the center piece in that deal.  If Gasol never played, how did the Grizz know he would be good, and if he was that good, how come he never played a game for the lakers??
    Posted by OPKIII


    How do you know how any trade is going to work out until it happens and the fall out occurs. The reality of the situation is that the Grizzlies got a young, cheap, 15 and 10 guy with lots of growth and upside toward the future. And just like I said, the trade that many thought to be one sided, turned out to be not that way at all. You keep making circular arguments against this, and you are wrong on all accounts. 
     
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    In Response to Re: Tainted Championship : How do you know how any trade is going to work out until it happens and the fall out occurs. The reality of the situation is that the Grizzlies got a young, cheap, 15 and 10 guy with lots of growth and upside toward the future. And just like I said, the trade that many thought to be one sided, turned out to be not that way at all. You keep making circular arguments against this, and you are wrong on all accounts. 
    Posted by Bobbarcker



    Now who's circling?  YOU said the Grizz got a 15 and 10 guy.  Yet, he had never played a second in the NBA!!  They got a 0 and 0 guy.  Face it, Pau Gasol was gift-wrapped.  Kwame Brown is the JaMarcus Russell of the NBA, Aaron McKie was retired, and Marc Gasol was a TOTAL UNKNOWN.  If you can't admit that, YOU ARE WRONG.........the fact that he turned into a serviceable NBA center who will never be as good as his brother is all lakers fans need to say this was a "fair" trade...........you are correct that you never know about trades, but to say flat out - like you have 3 times - that the Grizz knew what they were getting in Marc Gasol is hypocritical, arrogant, lakers double-talk.  And you will NEVER convince me otherwise, so stop trying!!
     
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    Ray Allen had decided before trade deadline that he was not going to play all out...coz he  thought he would be traded.....deadline passed and he was still a celtic so he thought since he  was not traded if he played well he would get a contract for next year....now it is the middle of the playoff and in one playoff game he got most 3 pointers in a row at 7....got most 3 pointers in a quarter at 7....most  3 pointers in a half at 7....and most 3 pointers in a game at 8.....now he thought or heard what one of the announcers said that if he was Danny Ainge he would catch him coming off the floor and offer him a contract....maybe all of this isnt exact but close enough....Ray Allen then thinks he will be traded and was mad coz he wanted to stay in Boston.... so he now thinks again that he will not play all out and missed 18 pointers in a row...if he had 4 good games starting this series Celtics would have swept the Lakers....there is know way that Ray Allen should be a Celtic next year....he proved in the playoffs that down deep he just really isnt a Celtic at heart.....I have been a Celtic for over 50 years and Ray Allens play sickens me to think about it....yes I know what the good advise is for this.....is to just not think about it.....and when he is gone I will not think about him...........think about this and let me know how you feel
     
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    In Response to Re: Tainted Championship:
    In Response to Re: Tainted Championship : That is what they got, that what Marc Gasol is. Is he not? I am sorry if your underdeveloped sensibilities can not deal with this, and you feel the need to make an argument where there is none. Everything I said was correct, and you are just being silly, making circular arguments after making a fool out of yourself correcting me without know what you are talking about.
    Posted by Bobbarcker

    Now  who can't admit when they're wrong?  It's there in black and white.  The Grizz GOT a 15 and 10 guy- stop, no, they didn't.  They got Kwame Brown, Aaron McKie and an unknown quantity who had never played a min in the NBA.  What he IS now is irrelevant to what he was when they traded for him.  Your argument is akin to saying   "Boy, the Celtics really dropped the ball on Chauncy Billups.  Everyone knew he would be this good right out of college."
     

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