Re: Tainted Championship
posted at 8/15/2010 5:31 PM EDT
In Response to Re: Tainted Championship
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Tainted Championship : Wow! So many sour grapes on this thread, do you guys want any cheese with tha t whine? For every bad call against the Celtics in that series, there was a bad call against the Lakers. Watch the games again, and if you deny that fact, you're just showing your ignorance as a basketball fan. It all came down to determination and effort on the players parts. The Lakers just refused to be denied. Like Shaq said, he's played with a lot of great players over the years, but when Kobe decides that he's gonna win, there's not a whole lot anybody can do about it. I'm not saying there weren't bad calls against the Celtics, I'm just saying that there were just as many against the Lakers, particularly in game 2 when the ball clearly went out of bounds on Garnett (BTW, Van Gundy and Jackson said the same thing), and even after reviewing the play, the officials gave the ball to the Celtics. That play literally cost the Lakers the game, had they received the ball as they should have, they would have had a chance to tie on the next possesion, instead the Celtics scored making it a 5 point game with less than a minute and a half left. The fact that the Lakers were resilient enough to come into a hostile environment at the Garden and take game 3, is a testament to the fact that they have the heart of a champion. This clip pretty much sums it up: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hShtVQxuJQ
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I read your post and masochistically, perhaps, went to watch Shaky Dice K & the Sox with a Triple A line-up today. It'll be tantamount to Charleston Heston splitting the Red Sea if the Sox win this game although it is only 1-0 Texas after 7 innings.
Firstly let me thank you for acknowledging that you are not saying there weren't bad calls against the Celtics---many Laker fans would not own up to even one call to be questionable. You want a bad call, I'll give you a bad call...I quote " Like Shaq said, he's played with a lot of great players over the years, but when Kobe decides that he's gonna win, there's not a whole lot anybody can do about it.". You mean based on his 6-24(25%), he decided they were to win game 7 and he was named MVP too. Gasol, although he got away with many, many hack jobs, traveling non-calls etc. did a good acting job in the land of many actors & wasn't called. So, instead of not winning Dancing with the Stars with a few steps he took & dunked the ball at a critical time & not got called and not having a chance to win a Academy Award, he, I feel, should have been MVP and not the guy who walks on water.
Ok, Re: what you considered a bad call with the out of bounds ball going to the Celtics in game two. Reading Greenkillme's post he so adequately and in depth covered numerous bad calls against the Celtics. But what he is saying, I think and can't really comment for him, is that this was not one bad call that determined the game but a series of bad calls---AND IN A DETERMINING THE CHAMPIONSHIP TEAM GAME !!! There have been a few single or two bad calls in other sports that determined the game & some refs have admitted they missed the calls. Although Greenkillme says the out of bounds was really a foul on Gasol, let me go along with your point that you feel LA lost this game because of that call. I REITERATE, THAT'S ONE CALL !!! You say "The fact that the Lakers were resilient enough to come into a hostile environment at the Garden and take game 3, is a testament to the fact that they have the heart of a champion. " The key here is that the injustice-I'm not admitting there was one-but if you and the Laker team felt there was one, you only had an overnight or a couple of nights to feel the pain & get out on the floor and mend your wounds. We, on the other hand, feel we had many bad calls-read Greenkillme's post again and if you don't believe all of them, how about 1/2, 1/3 etc. Hmmm??? Could have changed the momentum & outcome of the game. But the key here is the MAGNITUDE OF BAD CALLS AND THE MAGNITUDE OF THE GAME BEING THE FINAL ONE. WE DIDN'T HAVE A NEXT GAME AS THE LAKERS DID TO MEND OUR WOUNDS. WE NEED WAIT A YEAR TO DO SO. YOU WANT THE EXAMPLE OF THE HEART OF A CHAMPION. WE GOT THRASHED, ROUTED & DOMINATED IN GAME 6 BY 89-67 OR 22 POINTS. NO ARGUMENT FROM THE CELTIC FANS. BUT WITHOUT OUR STARTING CENTER AND BEST REBOUNDER, I REITERATE WITH THE HEART OF A CHAMPION WE WERE DOMINATING GAME 7 WITH A 13 POINT LEAD UNTIL THE INCOMPETENCE OF THE REFEREES CHANGED THE MOMENTUM AND I REITERATE NOT WITH ONE BAD CALL BUT WITH A DIFFERENCE OF 21 TO 6 IN THE 4TH QTR OR +15, THERE HAD TO BE SOME, AT LEAST, OF THE 15 THAT WERE BAD CALLS & THOSE DETERMINED THE VICTOR OF THE GAME.
Anyway, enjoy your title as you feel it was earned and allow
some Celtic fans, and non Celtic, just NBA fans to continue to
believe because of the referees, not the Lakers, because why
shouldn't they look a gift horse in the mouth and not take
advantage of 20 more foul shots with such a respectible
percentage of "WOW IMPRESSIVE" 50% giving the team 10
more points & routing us by 4 pts! Too bad time ran out, just
another 10 fouls called on Celtics and at 50% or with 5 more
points, they'd beaten the Vegas 7 1/2 point spread.
You think I'm whining...nope !!! But as you enjoy your tainted
title, I enjoy Laker trolls continuing on here trying to get us to
accept that the Lakers were the better team and the fouls'
disparity was not due to Referee incompetence. You guys are
actually the ones whining and our posts really disturb you or
you'd just go away. You certainly don't aggravate me continuing
here but seem to be aggravating yourselves !
OK, I'm beating a dead horse here !!! Hope we meet again in
the finals next year!!!