tank and acquisitions

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    tank and acquisitions

    trade wallace, bradley and 2015 2nd rds(bos, sac protected pick) for ben gordon and cha 2014 1st rd pick

    trade bass and bogans for asik

    draft embiid

    draft hood

    draft saric

     

    2014-2015 projected lign up

    Rondo/crawford/pressey

    brooks/hood

    green/saric

    sully/oly

    asik/embiid/fav

     

     

     

     

     

     

     
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    Re: tank and acquisitions

    http://www.sbnation.com/2014/1/10/5266770/nba-draft-lottery-tanking-gm

     

    Keep this in mind now that we've reached the point of the season where so-called "tanking" begins in earnest. By now, teams have evaluated what they have and where they are going. Some of them won't like it. Some will identify a core of players, identify the tradeable remainder and pawn off that which is pawnable. They might weaken their current product in exchange for future flexibility and assets. That is not mere terminology talking: That really is what happens. This is exactly what the Deng trade was for Chicago. And there will be more of this. Teams out of the hunt will look to the future.

    Is that tanking? Is that deliberate losing? Sure, if deliberate losing and tanking are hereby defined as the weakening of the chances of winning the next game.

    But no matter how important or attainable the short term goals are, the big picture is always present. It is not an endemic problem permeating the entire league. It is a strategy shift teams adopt if circumstances demand it. Often times, it is the best strategy there is.

    And without a truly free market, it will stay so.

     

    Lee was pawned off for Bayless for cap reasons. We've yet to find out the core vs the tradeable remainders. Some here say Hump, Bass, Wallace and Lee were/are the tradeables. I have some doubts. Hump is arguably our best PF. Other than getting another expiring contract and some out-of-the-lottery draft pick for him, why move him at all if he can become a core player with a much friendlier contract. 

    So, what if Danny/Brad have identified the core (for example) as Rondo (by default), Green, Sully & Hump with Oly (by default) needing another year to develop (unless he is packaged with a pick for a vet player or to move up in the draft)?  Then the tradeables and pawns become Crawford, Bradley, Wallace, Bogans, Bass, Fav, Brooks & Pressey.

    If our best players are to remain as the core then are best tradeable assets are Bass, Oly, Bradley and Crawford. Fav, Brooks, Bogans & Pressey are pawns. Wallace is an untradeable other than swapping a better bad contract for his worse bad contract.

     
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    Re: tank and acquisitions

    To Boston:                                                     To Charlotte:

    SG Ben Gordon                                            SF Jeff Green

    PG Ramon Sessions                                     SG Jordan Crawford

    SF MKG                                                         PF Kris Humphries

    2014 #1 pick from Detroit (Top 8 protected in 2014, Top 1 protected in 2015, unprotected in 2016)

     
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    Re: tank and acquisitions

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    trade wallace, bradley and 2015 2nd rds(bos, sac protected pick) for ben gordon and cha 2014 1st rd pick

    trade bass and bogans for asik

    draft embiid

    draft hood

    draft saric

     

    2014-2015 projected lign up

    Rondo/crawford/pressey

    brooks/hood

    green/saric

    sully/oly

    asik/embiid/fav

     

     

     

     

     

     

    [/QUOTE]

    If Asik demanded a trade when Houston signed DH, what makes you think he won't do the same after Boston drafts another Center #1 overall?

     
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    Re: tank and acquisitions

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    trade wallace, bradley and 2015 2nd rds(bos, sac protected pick) for ben gordon and cha 2014 1st rd pick

    trade bass and bogans for asik

    draft embiid

    draft hood

    draft saric

     

    2014-2015 projected lign up

    Rondo/crawford/pressey

    brooks/hood

    green/saric

    sully/oly

    asik/embiid/fav

     

     

     

     

     

     



    If Asik demanded a trade when Houston signed DH, what makes you think he won't do the same after Boston drafts another Center #1 overall?

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    just imagine what dumars did to drummond it took him 1 year to develop drummond... now he is a beast

     
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    Re: tank and acquisitions

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    In response to TheBigTicket05's comment:
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    trade wallace, bradley and 2015 2nd rds(bos, sac protected pick) for ben gordon and cha 2014 1st rd pick

    trade bass and bogans for asik

    draft embiid

    draft hood

    draft saric

     

    2014-2015 projected lign up

    Rondo/crawford/pressey

    brooks/hood

    green/saric

    sully/oly

    asik/embiid/fav

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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    If Asik demanded a trade when Houston signed DH, what makes you think he won't do the same after Boston drafts another Center #1 overall?

     

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    just imagine what dumars did to drummond it took him 1 year to develop drummond... now he is a beast

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    Drummond was the 9th pick and has no post game. When you take a guy #1 overall you expect them to start.

     
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    Re: tank and acquisitions

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    trade wallace, bradley and 2015 2nd rds(bos, sac protected pick) for ben gordon and cha 2014 1st rd pick

    trade bass and bogans for asik

    draft embiid

    draft hood

    draft saric

     

    2014-2015 projected lign up

    Rondo/crawford/pressey

    brooks/hood

    green/saric

    sully/oly

    asik/embiid/fav

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    [/QUOTE]

    If Asik demanded a trade when Houston signed DH, what makes you think he won't do the same after Boston drafts another Center #1 overall?

     

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    just imagine what dumars did to drummond it took him 1 year to develop drummond... now he is a beast

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    Drummond was the 9th pick and has no post game. When you take a guy #1 overall you expect them to start.

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    like Bennet?

     
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    In response to TheBigTicket05's comment:
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    trade wallace, bradley and 2015 2nd rds(bos, sac protected pick) for ben gordon and cha 2014 1st rd pick

    trade bass and bogans for asik

    draft embiid

    draft hood

    draft saric

     

    2014-2015 projected lign up

    Rondo/crawford/pressey

    brooks/hood

    green/saric

    sully/oly

    asik/embiid/fav

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    [/QUOTE]

    If Asik demanded a trade when Houston signed DH, what makes you think he won't do the same after Boston drafts another Center #1 overall?

     

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    just imagine what dumars did to drummond it took him 1 year to develop drummond... now he is a beast

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    Drummond was the 9th pick and has no post game. When you take a guy #1 overall you expect them to start.

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    like Bennet?

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    yes, exactly, but not just Bennett, every #1 pick is expected to start. and if your #1 pick isn't starting year 1, that usually means you drafted the wrong guy, a bust. 

     
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    trade wallace, bradley and 2015 2nd rds(bos, sac protected pick) for ben gordon and cha 2014 1st rd pick

    trade bass and bogans for asik

    draft embiid

    draft hood

    draft saric

     

    2014-2015 projected lign up

    Rondo/crawford/pressey

    brooks/hood

    green/saric

    sully/oly

    asik/embiid/fav

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    [/QUOTE]

    If Asik demanded a trade when Houston signed DH, what makes you think he won't do the same after Boston drafts another Center #1 overall?

     

    [/QUOTE]

    just imagine what dumars did to drummond it took him 1 year to develop drummond... now he is a beast

    [/QUOTE]

    Drummond was the 9th pick and has no post game. When you take a guy #1 overall you expect them to start.

    [/QUOTE]

    like Bennet?

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    bennet should have never been the #1 pick..never...

     

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