Tank trades

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    Tank trades

    First Trade -

    To Detroit: Rondo (1 year remaining), Bass (2 years remaining), Wallace (2 years remaining).

    To Boston: Villanueva (free agent), Stuckey (free agent), Miller (1 year remaining), Arthur (1 year remaining), 2015 first round draft pick from Detroit, 2015 round draft pick from Denver.

    To Denver: Jennings (2 years remaining).

    Second Trade -

    To Charlotte: Green (2 years remaining), Bogans (2 years remaining).

    To Boston: Gordon (free agent), earlier 2014 first round draft pick. Waive Gordon.

    Third Trade -

    To Oklahoma City: Humphries (free agent)

    To Boston: Perkins (1 year remaining), Thabeet (1 year remaining), earlier 2014 first round draft pick.

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    Celtics roster heading into the draft (excluding free agents):

    1. C Joel Anthony (1 year player option)

    2. C Vitor Faverani (2 years remaining)

    3. C Kelly Olynyk (3 years remaining)

    4. C Kendrick Perkins (1 year remaining)

    5. C Hasheem Thabeet (1 year remaining)

    6. PF Jared Sullinger (2 years remaining)

    7. PF Darrell Arthur (1 year remaining)

    8. PG Andre Miller (1 year remaining)

    9. PG Phil Pressey (2 years remaining)


    2014 draft picks (by current mock projection):

    No. 8: Boston.

    No. 15: Charlotte (via Detroit).

    No. 20: Brooklyn (via Atlanta).

    No. 21: Oklahoma City (via Dallas).

     

    2015 draft picks (by current mock projection):

    No. 8: Boston.

    No. 14: Denver.

    No. 15: Detroit.

     

    Also note the massive payroll flexibility for a major free agent spending spree.

     

     

     

     

     

     
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    Re: Tank trades

    In response to davidap's comment:

    First Trade -

    To Detroit: Rondo (1 year remaining), Bass (2 years remaining), Wallace (2 years remaining).

    To Boston: Villanueva (free agent), Stuckey (free agent), Miller (1 year remaining), Arthur (1 year remaining), 2015 first round draft pick from Detroit, 2015 round draft pick from Denver.

    To Denver: Jennings (2 years remaining).

     

     

     

    Rondo turns 28 and his no-shot skill set declines with age. That's without mentioning his recovery from knee surgery from which the track record is poor after the 1st year.

    Why would the Pistons take on ~$6mil in salary for this year and additional salary over the next two years (and give up a #1 next year!!!) for Rondo?

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    Second Trade -

    To Charlotte: Green (2 years remaining), Bogans (2 years remaining).

    To Boston: Gordon (free agent), earlier 2014 first round draft pick. Waive Gordon.

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    I like this trade. The Cs unload 2 toxic contracts for a 1st rounder and cap relief. Caveat: I like this trade because I'm a Cs fan. The reality is that if Ainge approached Charlotte with this trade, their GM would be insulted and would take it personally.

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    Third Trade -

    To Oklahoma City: Humphries (free agent)

    To Boston: Perkins (1 year remaining), Thabeet (1 year remaining), earlier 2014 first round draft pick.

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    I'm a Cs fan and I hate this deal. Perk's PER is a pathetic 6.1. Thabeet is 5.5. And yet, you want the Cs to take on $10mil in 2014-15 salary for 2 stiffs. That's not going to happen. Ainge would be the one insulted if approached with that deal.

    Psst. Rondo isn't a superstar and Perk sucks.

     
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    Re: Tank trades

    Your "team" has 5 Centers and no wing players!

     
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    Detroit and Charlotte would never do these trades, and why would you want to do the OKC trade?  Humphries expires at the end of the year, why take on perk and thabeet's contracts, and OKC will have the last or second to last pick, which is not very valuable. 

     
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    Detroit and Charlotte would never do these trades, and why would you want to do the OKC trade?  Humphries expires at the end of the year, why take on perk and thabeet's contracts, and OKC will have the last or second to last pick, which is not very valuable. 

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    +1

     
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    Re: Tank trades

    Anyone here an IN member that has the rest of this story?

     

    What is Danny Ainge up to? Celtics GM's amassing of trade assets reminiscent of his 2007 strategy Updated: January 16, 2014, 1:47 PM ET By Kevin Pelton | ESPN Insider

     

    Celtics president Danny Ainge Jim Davis/The Boston Globe via Getty ImagesDoes Celtics president Danny Ainge have another big move up his sleeve?  

     

    After Wednesday's three-team trade with the Golden State Warriors and Miami Heat, Boston Celtics president Danny Ainge has now made a pair of deals within the past two weeks. With the trade deadline five weeks away, Ainge's real score may still be out there.

     

    We know that Ainge is fond of blockbuster trades. Not only did he build a championship team in a single summer by dealing for Ray Allen and Kevin Garnett in 2007, he has unsuccessfully pursued stars such as Allen Iverson and Chris Paul in the past. Now the Celtics might have the opportunity to make a big trade built around Rajon Rondo, who is expected to return Friday from his ACL rupture, or perhaps even their forthcoming lottery pick. After all, the last time Boston picked in the lottery, in 2007, their No. 5 pick went to the Seattle SuperSonics in exchange for Allen.

     

    This year's Boston team is in a different position, at the start of the rebuilding process rather than the conclusion of it, but if the Celtics could get a star young talent to accelerate the process, they'd have to consider a bold move making use of their unique assets. Between their collection of young talent, overpaid veterans and draft picks, Boston has an interesting set of pieces to include in trades. Let's take a look, going from least valuable in a trade to most valuable.

    http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/10303205/nba-analyzing-boston-celtics-trade-assets

     
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    Re: Tank trades

    In response to Mployee8's comment:

    Anyone here an IN member that has the rest of this story?

     What is Danny Ainge up to? Celtics GM's amassing of trade assets reminiscent of his 2007 strategy Updated: January 16, 2014, 1:47 PM ET By Kevin Pelton | ESPN InsiderJim Davis/The Boston Globe via Getty ImagesDoes Celtics president Danny Ainge have another big move up his sleeve?  

    What???

    You can't afford to pay for an ESPN insider account?

     

    Are you earning rupees too?

    HAHAHA

     
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    Re: Tank trades

    In response to davidap's comment:
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    First Trade -

    To Detroit: Rondo (1 year remaining), Bass (2 years remaining), Wallace (2 years remaining).

    To Boston: Villanueva (free agent), Stuckey (free agent), Miller (1 year remaining), Arthur (1 year remaining), 2015 first round draft pick from Detroit, 2015 round draft pick from Denver.

    To Denver: Jennings (2 years remaining).

    Second Trade -

    To Charlotte: Green (2 years remaining), Bogans (2 years remaining).

    To Boston: Gordon (free agent), earlier 2014 first round draft pick. Waive Gordon.

    Third Trade -

    To Oklahoma City: Humphries (free agent)

    To Boston: Perkins (1 year remaining), Thabeet (1 year remaining), earlier 2014 first round draft pick.

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    Celtics roster heading into the draft (excluding free agents):

    1. C Joel Anthony (1 year player option)

    2. C Vitor Faverani (2 years remaining)

    3. C Kelly Olynyk (3 years remaining)

    4. C Kendrick Perkins (1 year remaining)

    5. C Hasheem Thabeet (1 year remaining)

    6. PF Jared Sullinger (2 years remaining)

    7. PF Darrell Arthur (1 year remaining)

    8. PG Andre Miller (1 year remaining)

    9. PG Phil Pressey (2 years remaining)


    2014 draft picks (by current mock projection):

    No. 8: Boston.

    No. 15: Charlotte (via Detroit).

    No. 20: Brooklyn (via Atlanta).

    No. 21: Oklahoma City (via Dallas).

     

    2015 draft picks (by current mock projection):

    No. 8: Boston.

    No. 14: Denver.

    No. 15: Detroit.

     

    Also note the massive payroll flexibility for a major free agent spending spree.

     

     

     

     

     

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    Wow. Yup. That is a tanking trade. That would absolutely be a complete rebuild scenario and would actually set us up for a pretty good future. I say keep Rondo, but based upon what I've seen, I think Jared and Avery along with (Jabari, Wiggins or Embiid) would be enough with Stevens to build a winning Culture from nothing.

     

    Not a bad idea. Well done!

     
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    Re: Tank trades

    I think Charlotte does the trade. They need to get better. Jeff can help that (shhh)

    Not sure about Denver doing it... maybe

    And I also agree that the OKC trade is a little unnecesary, though I'd love to get a 1st for Hump.

     

     

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