Trade Deadline: Who Stays, Who Goes

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    Trade Deadline: Who Stays, Who Goes

    The trade deadline is only 4 weeks away.

     

    I labeled Humpy, Bass, Lee, and Wallace as tradables when the season started.

    Those 4 players must go because they're not part of the future plans of the Celts.

     

    Lee is already gone so that leaves Wallace, Bass, and Humpy as the remaining tradables.

     

    Kris Humphries - Humpy needs to go because the Celts won't be able to afford him next season.

    Humpy will most likely get 8m per year next season.

    I think Ainge can get a 2014 or 2015 1st rounder for Humpy.

     

    Brandon Bass - Bass is playing well this season.

    I don't know what the Celts can get for him, but he's also not young enough to be part of the future plans of the Celts.

     

    Gerald Wallace - According to reports, if the Celts want to get rid of Wallace, they'd have to throw in a 1st rounder.

    Bulls and Celtics can do a Wallace and Bogans for Boozer trade.

    We'll see.

     

    Rondo and Jeff Green will most likley stay.

     

    My core for the Celtics of the future is composed of Sully, Oly, and Bradley.

    I think those 3 will remain Celtic players for years to come. 

     

    If Ainge can get Asik for Humpy, straight up, Asik will be part of the core.

     
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    Some here keep saying it will be a quick rebuild.

    I disagree.

    From the 2 moves Ainge made this season, downgrading from Lee to Bayless and Jordan Crawford for Joel Anthony, it's looking like Ainge is going to build through the draft.

    Why would Ainge allow the Heat to dump Joel Anthony's contract on the Celts if Ainge is not thinking long term?

    The Celts would have to pay 3.8m for Joel Anthony next season.

    That will cost the Celts 3.8m in cap space.

     

     

     
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    Also, I don't think Ainge will trade for Gordon Hayward, Evan Turner, Spencer Hawes, or Larry Sanders at the trade deadline.

    If Ainge is going to go after one of those players, it's going to be a sign and trade in July.

     
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    I think I'd put Jeff Green in the tradeables category as well.  They should try the Lakers.  If people do not want to give them Rondo for the Lakers 1st round pick this year, then how about Jeff Green for Nash and the Lakers 2014 first round pick?  Lakers are looking to rebuild quickly via free agency.  Jeff Green would fit in well with a veteran team loaded with big ego ball hogs because he is not one.

     
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    I think I'd put Jeff Green in the tradeables category as well.  They should try the Lakers.  If people do not want to give them Rondo for the Lakers 1st round pick this year, then how about Jeff Green for Nash and the Lakers 2014 first round pick?  Lakers are looking to rebuild quickly via free agency.  Jeff Green would fit in well with a veteran team loaded with big ego ball hogs because he is not one.

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    it means.. no melo for them

     
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    I think I'd put Jeff Green in the tradeables category as well.  They should try the Lakers.  If people do not want to give them Rondo for the Lakers 1st round pick this year, then how about Jeff Green for Nash and the Lakers 2014 first round pick?  Lakers are looking to rebuild quickly via free agency.  Jeff Green would fit in well with a veteran team loaded with big ego ball hogs because he is not one.

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    it means.. no melo for them

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    That might be a good thing.  Nash and Green cancel each other out money wise for this year and next, so the Lakers should have the same cap maneuverability at the end of the year.  

     
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    I think I'd put Jeff Green in the tradeables category as well.  They should try the Lakers.  If people do not want to give them Rondo for the Lakers 1st round pick this year, then how about Jeff Green for Nash and the Lakers 2014 first round pick?  Lakers are looking to rebuild quickly via free agency.  Jeff Green would fit in well with a veteran team loaded with big ego ball hogs because he is not one.

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    it means.. no melo for them

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    That might be a good thing.  Nash and Green cancel each other out money wise for this year and next, so the Lakers should have the same cap maneuverability at the end of the year.  

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    yeah, no lotto picks as well!

     
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    I think I'd put Jeff Green in the tradeables category as well.  They should try the Lakers.  If people do not want to give them Rondo for the Lakers 1st round pick this year, then how about Jeff Green for Nash and the Lakers 2014 first round pick?  Lakers are looking to rebuild quickly via free agency.  Jeff Green would fit in well with a veteran team loaded with big ego ball hogs because he is not one.

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    it means.. no melo for them

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    That might be a good thing.  Nash and Green cancel each other out money wise for this year and next, so the Lakers should have the same cap maneuverability at the end of the year.  

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    yeah, no lotto picks as well!

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    Don't worry.  The Lakers won't make the playoffs with Jeff Green or without him.  Jeff's not that impactful.  We could also wait until after the season to ensure it.  Personally, I think the Lakers will end up with a top 10 pick this year.

     
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    Don't worry.  The Lakers won't make the playoffs with Jeff Green or without him.  Jeff's not that impactful.  We could also wait until after the season to ensure it.  Personally, I think the Lakers will end up with a top 10 pick this year.



    Yes, the Lakers are on pace to get a top 10 pick.

     
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    Jeff Green becomes expendable if the Celts get Jabari Parker or Rodney Hood.

     
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    Why not just hang on to Humphries to use his expiring contract to get a FA? 

    Bass is the one that really needs to go. He is below Hump on the depth chart and Oly can take his minutes and develop.

     
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    I agree on Hump unles we can get a projected top half number 1 for him . Get what you can for Green Bass, Wallace Anthony, with wallace tied to Green or Bas in a deal for expiring and draft chices

     
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    Why not just hang on to Humphries to use his expiring contract to get a FA? 

    Bass is the one that really needs to go. He is below Hump on the depth chart and Oly can take his minutes and develop.



    You can't do that.

    The last day for trading a player with an expiring contract is at the trade deadline.

    Once the trade deadline passes, Humpy is good as gone because the Celts can't trade him anymore.

     
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    I agree on Hump unles we can get a projected top half number 1 for him . Get what you can for Green Bass, Wallace Anthony, with wallace tied to Green or Bas in a deal for expiring and draft chices



    Hump will cost 8m per year next season.

    Celts can't afford that.

     
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    Why not just hang on to Humphries to use his expiring contract to get a FA? 

    Bass is the one that really needs to go. He is below Hump on the depth chart and Oly can take his minutes and develop.

     

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    You can't do that.

     

    The last day for trading a player with an expiring contract is at the trade deadline.

    Once the trade deadline passes, Humpy is good as gone because the Celts can't trade him anymore.

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    That isn't what I am saying. I am saying that when he leaves for free agency after this season the Celtics will have the money they spent on him this year to play with. To me that is more valuable than a late first round pick that they might get for him.

     
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    Right now the Celts have 48.4m in total salaries next season.

    That's 8 players for 48.4m.

    The salary cap for next season is 62m.

    So the Celts have 13.6m to spend on 5 players to have a complete 13-man roster.

     

    Avery Bradley is not included in the 8 players for next season because he's a restricted FA.

     

     
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    That isn't what I am saying. I am saying that when he leaves for free agency after this season the Celtics will have the money they spent on him this year to play with. To me that is more valuable than a late first round pick that they might get for him.



    Not true.

    The Celts will only have 13.6m to spend on 5 players for next season.

    You need 13 players to have a complete roster.

     

     

     
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    Celts also have 2 1st round picks in 2014.

    If the Celts get the #5 pick, the cap hold for that pick will be 2.9m.

    The other pick, if it's #20, will have a cap hold of 1.17m.

     

    So 13.6m - 2.9m - 1.17m = 9.53m

    Celts will have 9.53m to spend on 3 players to complete a 13-man roster.

     
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    2 rookies will be 4+m, so then we have about 9m to spend on 3 players.  I think Bradley is gone if he gets 5+ millions multi year deal from some one.  If Humphries can fetch a first round pick, then it is a no brainer, but Humphries might be able to stay if he goes for 7m with graduated increase for 3 years.  Then Pressey for 1m 1-2 years.  Then the last spot is a minimum salary player. I would not give a good pick away to get rid of GW, just eat his salary and trade his expiring contract in a year or so.

     
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    That isn't what I am saying. I am saying that when he leaves for free agency after this season the Celtics will have the money they spent on him this year to play with. To me that is more valuable than a late first round pick that they might get for him.



    I think Asik for Humpy is the solution.

     
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    2 rookies will be 4+m, so then we have about 9m to spend on 3 players.  I think Bradley is gone if he gets 5+ millions multi year deal from some one.  If Humphries can fetch a first round pick, then it is a no brainer, but Humphries might be able to stay if he goes for 7m with graduated increase for 3 years.  Then Pressey for 1m 1-2 years.  The the last spot is a minimum salary player.



    But why keep Humpy and let Bradley go?

    Right now the PFs of the future are Sully and Oly.

    We have no quality SG if AB is gone. 

     
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    That isn't what I am saying. I am saying that when he leaves for free agency after this season the Celtics will have the money they spent on him this year to play with. To me that is more valuable than a late first round pick that they might get for him.

     

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    I think Asik for Humpy is the solution.

     

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    Wouldn't Asik poison pill salary blows the Celtics salary cap up next year?

     
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    Wouldn't Asik poison pill salary blows the Celtics salary cap up next year?



    Yes, but it will allow the Celts to go over the cap to re-sign AB.

    If the Celts get Asik then the Celts will NOT be a team under the cap.

    So Ainge will have until the end of the season next year to go under the tax line again.

     

    Asik's poison pill contract will only have a cap hit of 8.4m, by the way.

     
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    But why keep Humpy and let Bradley go?

    Right now the PFs of the future are Sully and Oly.

    We have no quality SG if AB is gone. 

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    Because Humphries is a quality PF, much harder to find a quality PF.  Sully and Oly still have all the minutes they can handle with Humphries on the team.  Bass will be expiring contract next year.  We can't keep both, that's for sure, and as you know, I think AB is not that much of a quality player.

     
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    Because Humphries is a quality PF, much harder to find a quality PF.  Sully and Oly still have all the minutes they can handle with Humphries on the team.  Bass will be expiring contract next year.  We can't keep both, that's for sure, and as you know, I think AB is not that much of a quality player.



    Yes, Humpy is a quality player, but he will be 29 years old next month.

     

    Next season the Celts will need a real Center and a starting SG.

     

    Besides, it's not like the Celts are a playoff team next season.

    Why keep Humpy for next season when the Celts will most likely be in the lottery again.

    Remember, Humpy will most likely get Ilyasova money, 8m per year.

     

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