Who is going to guard the opposing team's scoring forwards?

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    I also share your concern. Two guys that I felt would have been great coming off the bench for Boston were Bill Walker and Damion James. So much for that.

     
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    I watched Damian down at UT.  He was a man among boys.  Some scouts said he peaked / reached his ceiling, whereas his teammate Bradley still had a lot of upside.  Danny decided to go with potential.  Given the team's George Allen philosophy of "the future is now",  I would have thought they opt for James, who could have contributed immediately off the bench spelling PP.  Letting Billy Walker go may come back to haunt us.  If that kid stays healthy (given his multiple knee operations), he could be a solid player in this league for a long time. 
     
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    Corey Brewer.  He's a good defender in the Posey mold and young.  Use Sheed's contract to get him.  Other options, Battier, Ariza, Prince.
     
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    Picking up Shaq really says Sheed's done.  I wouldn't mind seeing them get a trade exception.  Use ~ half of it now for a defensive 3/4 and save the other half for the deadline.  Cory Brewer fits that at 3.7M. 


     
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    [QUOTE]Picking up Shaq really says Sheed's done.  I wouldn't mind seeing them get a trade exception.  Use ~ half of it now for a defensive 3/4 and save the other half for the deadline.  Cory Brewer fits that at 3.7M. 
    Posted by croc[/QUOTE]


    Sheed may be done but I dont think picking up Shaq is any indication.

    Last season we were short a big man on our depth. Currently, if Sheed was to play and we pick up Shaq...all we've done is added one more body, since Perk is out.

    Should Sheed actually retire, we're back where we started. JO & Shaq replacing Sheed & Perk.  I think Sheed will retire and probably come back later ala PJ Brown, for the playoff run.  Chances are someone gonna be hurt anyway and Sheed is a great back up plan. for later on.

    Works perfect since Sheed dogged most of the season anyway. Just needs to stay in shape (hmmm)
     
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    I agree that we definitely need someone else at this position.  If Rasheed is indeed retiring, it would be much easier to sign someone else. 
     
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    Erdan or some other piece for short minutes until Perk is ready is how I see that.  They can't be looking for a significant player. When Perk is back that is without doubt filled, and then some. So this is a bit player quite possibly Erdan.

    The wing defender is the harder role to fill by far.



     
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    Maybe Damien Wilkins? He is not the shooter we are looking for and maybe not that tall for the wing at 6.6 but he is a decent asset (better then a guy like Larry Hughes, defensive wise).  Or Size... Jarvis Hayes (6.8) who can add shooting too the rotation.
     
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    [QUOTE]Corey Brewer.  He's a good defender in the Posey mold and young.  Use Sheed's contract to get him.  Other options, Battier, Ariza, Prince.
    Posted by cpjohn1[/QUOTE]

    One of these guys would make us the team to beat IMO, even James Posey back would be a boon to the playoff rotation

    I'm very curious about Prince, contract year, team going nowhere, would they take Sheed's contract (saves them 4 million), Perk and our #1 pick for him???

    Houston isn't going to deal Ariza at all, so scratch that idea. 

    Maybe they would part with Battier if they decide that it is more important to their title hopes to add a frontcourt player, esp w/ Yao's questionable health, over forcing Battier into less mins than he deserves or into a bu SG role that Budinger would actually be better at than him
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Who is going to guard the opposing team's scoring forwards? : One of these guys would make us the team to beat IMO, even James Posey back would be a boon to the playoff rotation I'm very curious about Prince, contract year, team going nowhere, would they take Sheed's contract (saves them 4 million), Perk and our #1 pick for him??? Houston isn't going to deal Ariza at all, so scratch that idea.  Maybe they would part with Battier if they decide that it is more important to their title hopes to add a frontcourt player, esp w/ Yao's questionable health, over forcing Battier into less mins than he deserves or into a bu SG role that Budinger would actually be better at than him
    Posted by rameakap[/QUOTE]

    Would we have to sweeten the pot to get Battier?
     
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    Tony Allen guarded 3's well last season and he's 6'4 and weighs about 200-210 lbs. If somebody is a good defender, they can effectively guard taller players. We'll see how Von Wafer defends soon enough. His size of 6'5 and 210 lbs can defend taller players effectively if he has the defensive skills to do so.
       Daniels is a legit 6'6. He only gives up 1 to 2 inches to the average small forward.
        I think the C's roster is set aside from signing Harrangody.
     
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    I think Prince would be our best fit. He can hit the 3, play disruptive D and is lanky. Detroit isn't going anywhere anytime soon, so i say use this to ship Sheed to Detroit for Prince and let Sheed retire in Detroit in front of the fans he played for during their championship years
     
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    [QUOTE]I watched Damian down at UT.  He was a man among boys.  Some scouts said he peaked / reached his ceiling, whereas his teammate Bradley still had a lot of upside.  Danny decided to go with potential.  Given the team's George Allen philosophy of "the future is now",  I would have thought they opt for James, who could have contributed immediately off the bench spelling PP.  Letting Billy Walker go may come back to haunt us.  If that kid stays healthy (given his multiple knee operations), he could be a solid player in this league for a long time. 
    Posted by henryfinkel[/QUOTE]
    Like many people I felt that Ainge should have drafted James Anderson (the Paul Pierce clone as they call him here in San Antonio) but Damion James would have been a perfect fit given his tenacity on both defense and offense. This guy, DJ, has a nonstop motor. He is relentless offensively and gets people on their heels and he just keeps coming after them. He is an animal on defense. He would
    have been perfect for Boston. Bradley is good but he is going to rot on the bench. I hope that I am wrong but I still believe that Ainge blew it.
     
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    [QUOTE]I think Prince would be our best fit. He can hit the 3, play disruptive D and is lanky. Detroit isn't going anywhere anytime soon, so i say use this to ship Sheed to Detroit for Prince and let Sheed retire in Detroit in front of the fans he played for during their championship years
    Posted by DPG182[/QUOTE]

    I like it but the most we can get for Sheed is $8m and Prince is at $11m.

    Who we gonna sacrifice for the other $3m to match -Scal or Davis?

    /> /> Defense: Detroit’s best and most versatile perimeter defender. Perhaps the second most important player on the team defensively behind Rasheed Wallace. Draws the toughest perimeter assignment in most cases. Length allows him to contest absolutely every shot. Wingspan allows him play off his man and still get a hand up on everything. Deceptive quickness helps him deny penetration. Looks impossible to drive around when he gets in his defensive stance. Deflects a lot of passes. Can guard three positions. Not an ideal post defender due to his size, but he fights for position. Standing reach makes him tough to shoot over when he goes straight up. Decent rebounder. Great shot blocker who prefers to try and negate fast breaks and easy layups. Not a risk taker in the half court. Makes an impact on his physical assets alone. <
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Who is going to guard the opposing team's scoring forwards? : Would we have to sweeten the pot to get Battier?
    Posted by hedleylamarr[/QUOTE]

    Well we don't have much, but our 1st rd pick is certainly worth Battier
     
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    [QUOTE]Tony Allen guarded 3's well last season and he's 6'4 and weighs about 200-210 lbs. If somebody is a good defender, they can effectively guard taller players. We'll see how Von Wafer defends soon enough. His size of 6'5 and 210 lbs can defend taller players effectively if he has the defensive skills to do so.    Daniels is a legit 6'6. He only gives up 1 to 2 inches to the average small forward.     I think the C's roster is set aside from signing Harrangody.
    Posted by mem17[/QUOTE]

    Tony was known for his D, that was his main skill, and even he had some problems with guys 3-5 inches taller than him.

    Wafer is not known for his D, in fact all scouting reports say he is average to below average over his career, and that has been mostly playing SG's

    If you want to put title hopes on him getting time on Deng, LeBron and Rashard Lewis be my guest, I demand a legit SF to complete this team
     
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    [QUOTE]Corey Brewer.  He's a good defender in the Posey mold and young.  Use Sheed's contract to get him.  Other options, Battier, Ariza, Prince.
    Posted by cpjohn1[/QUOTE]

    while i think that is a great idea for a defensive pest- minny seems to really like the guy- they signed him for 3 or 4 years last year and he started to come around offensively.  i'd be shocked if we could get him, but he sure is a great target to try for.....
     
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    WE are about out of options except for Gaffney.
     
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    Well there's the Sheed chip, which will likely fall next.

    Plus...There's Harangody.  There's Baby in certain sets.  Maybe Rudy. Not to mention PP plays about 35 minutes. 
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Who is going to guard the opposing team's scoring forwards? : I like it but the most we can get for Sheed is $8m and Prince is at $11m. Who we gonna sacrifice for the other $3m to match -Scal or Davis?
    Posted by Mployee8[/QUOTE]

    BBD.  I have to assume that Perk will be back to contribute some minutes towards the end of the season.  If need be, the Celts can try to coax Rasheed back, assuming his contract gets bought out.  Retired players are probably not allowed back for a year.

    With the O'Neal brothers, Perk, Garnett and Erdan, the Celts have the bodies to match with the league bigs.  The biggest need is to match up with the league speed, especially Miami and probably, Atlanta.  Sacrificing BBD for Prince will significantly improve the Celts roster.  Also, I read on cnnsi Truth&Rumors that there is talk in Detroit of adding a big (if BBD qualifies as a real big).
     
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    I think that now after sign shaq(and probably sign harangody too)we should try to trade one of ours "bigs" for a REAL SF.Something like this:

    1)Boston gets:                             2)The other team gets:
    A SF and a 2nd round pick              One big + Sheed´s ghost and a 1st round pick

    I know guys that BBD is a nice player,but he has just 1 year contract and should have some leverage with others teams

    With these moves the roster would stay in 14 players and this would bring competion for a spot that i think should for GAFNEY or SIMS(they´re SFs with size,but unproven)
     
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    [QUOTE]I think that now after sign shaq(and probably sign harangody too)we should try to trade one of ours "bigs" for a REAL SF.Something like this: 1)Boston gets:                             2)The other team gets: A SF and a 2nd round pick              One big + Sheed´s ghost and a 1st round pick I know guys that BBD is a nice player,but he has just 1 year contract and should have some leverage with others teams With these moves the roster would stay in 14 players and this would bring competion for a spot that i think should for GAFNEY or SIMS(they´re SFs with size,but unproven)
    Posted by RondoIsHustle[/QUOTE]

    fine by me
     
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    mmm... you just make them play defense against Pierce, Allen, and Davis in pick and rolls on the other end with Shaq/Perkins/JO/KG - they'll get their points, but most great offensive players only go off when they don't really have to think very much about defense.  KG shuts down half those guys on his own, Pierce and Allen shut down the others.  You always have to think about where Rondo is on the floor or he steals the ball from you.
     
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    We do need a legit SF to BU Pierce and Daniels isn't the answer. MD maybe a third option or descent on SG's but yeah, we need a long SF. Battier sounds great but will Houston give him up when they are trying to win it in the next year or two? G Wallace would be nice, maybe in 2013 as a FA signing. Posey works if you think he still has game and another option (though I'm not enamored with the guy's strength and wonder about his repaired injury) is Mike Dunleavy - he could do a decent job spelling Pierce on offense but a lock down defender on big 3's ... not w/o help.


    Daniels
    :              From a 4/29/08' Scouting Report

    Defense: The Pacers most versatile perimeter defender. Can defend all three backcourt positions. More effective against the two guard positions than small forwards. Shows great intensity and effort on the defensive end. Displays tremendous lateral quickness and fast hands. Plays physically, but doesn’t foul. Very intelligent in that way. Does a good job reading passers off the ball and jumping in front of telegraphed passes. Doesn’t do a whole lot of rebounding. Very sound on the defensive end.

    Meanwhile, as indicated above, Indy has floated the fact that the Pacers could be looking to move Mike Dunleavy and TJ Ford to get some cap relief and hopefully a vet PG. He's not the quickest or strongest SF but he's long and adequate for a "help defensive" team and a descent scorer as well with only the upcoming year remaining on his contract @ $10m - Sheed @ $8 and another $2m filler gets it done. Any Interest?

    http://blogs.indystar.com/pacersinsider/archives/2010/07/pacers_trying_t.html

    Dunleavy:

    Defense: A heady defensive player who doesn’t have the physical assets to be a standout, but is big and smart enough to get by. Displays good help side fundamentals. Reads ball handlers extremely well when he is playing off the ball. Will make an effort to use his length to deny penetration, but he is susceptible to both quicker and stronger players. Won’t leak out in transition. Does his best to help with rebounding duties. Very disciplined defender. Not dynamic, but won’t make many mistakes either.


    From DraftExpress.com http://www.draftexpress.com/article/NBA-Scouting-Reports-Central-Division-Part-Two--2674/#ixzz0vhOHwgfO
    http://www.draftexpress.com
     
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    Re: Who is going to guard the opposing team's scoring forwards?

     I think Sheed will retire and probably come back later ala PJ Brown, for the playoff run
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