Re: Why Russell would be a star today
posted at 9/1/2011 8:43 AM EDT
In Response to Why Russell would be a star today
[QUOTE]I got to thinking about this subject....so many fans (most who probably never saw him play) dismiss the notion that Bill Russell would be a star today......he revolutionized the sport with his incredible defense, shot blocking, and rebounding....he was a tremendous athlete who was one of the fastest players in the league....he was a good passer (most of the set plays went through him) and regularly was among the top 10 in assists early in his career....he didn't care much about individual stats and didn't practice his offensive game.....his vertical leap allowed him to be able to grab a quarter off the top of a backboard and he had the wingspan of a seven footer.....and, most importantly, he was one of the smartest and most driven players the game has ever seen..... Russ was 6-10 220........for those who feel that he couldn't excel today I ask the following questions: How is it that Dennis Rodman, at 6-7 210, was able to lead the league in rebounding 7 times and was named Defensive Player of the Year twice...? How is it that Ben Wallace, at 6-9 240, was able to lead the league in rebounding twice, in blocked shots once, and was Defensive Player of the Year 4 times....? Russ was taller than both of them.....playing today he would most certainly hit the weight room like everyone in the league does.....he would probably add 20 lbs of muscle without losing any of his speed and agility.... If Rodman and Wallace (who, by the way had no offensive games to speak of) could thrive.....then why wouldn't Russell...?
Given his success against Wilt, and taking into account the success of both Rodman and Wallace.....why would anyone assume that Russell would not match their success....?
Posted by Duke4[/QUOTE]
Wow, Dude, according to you guys, Russell is the GOAT. Now you only compare him to Rodman/Big Ben? You are just arguing AGAINST Russell's greatness.
To make your argument, you have to say that had Russell played in this era, he must be greater than MJ, or at least as great as MJ.
See, Russell's offensive game is the weakest among the all-time greats. Would that diminish his greatness? of course, he had the luck of playing alongside some great scorers for many years. Had he played in this era of salary cap and free agency, the Celtics would have no chance to keep 4-5 HOF scorers on the roster for 13 years to let Russell concentrate on his defense/rebounding, and win 11 rings. Would 3-5 all-NBA first team, a couple MVPs, 2-4 rings be able to make him an all-time great? Of course, that's what DR, Shaq and Hakeem achieved.
Would that make him in the conversation of GOAT? Have anyone ever claimed that DR, Shaq or Hakeem as GOAT? I mean, it's greatest player of all-time, not greatest center of all-time. MJ is GOAT because he's better than all other forwards, centers and PGs. No one would mention MJ as merely greatest SG of all-time.
You should know there is still a gap between DR/Shaq/Hakeem and GOAT.