Workouts for an invitation to camp

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    Well the celtics have begun the campaign for their final invitees and the candidates are all Sf's or SG's: Adam Morrison has been in for two workouts and has been joined by Rashard McCants,Cuttino Mobley and Trent Hassell. The are all NBA players who are presently without employment and they all represent a definate skill level. So who do all of you guys want the Celtics to bring in a compete with West,Harangody and Erdan for one of the final spots on the roster?
     
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    McCants could work, but if Danny is looking for shooters, why not Morrison...I know he cannot defend but...
     
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    [QUOTE]Out of these 4 guys along with West Wafer and Erdan..I would first cut Erdan..and would like to have McCants as he is bigger than West at 6'4 and younger than both Mobley and Hassel..TA was only 6'4 and was hellish on offense..Not sure about McCants defense..however the Celts play a team defense..and any points he gives up he can get back on offense...
    Posted by BBALLIQ[/QUOTE] Interesting points in referencing McCants and his offensive abilities, I think they are looking for a defensive player first and a guy who can hold his own offensively. before they signed Wafer, I was pushing for them to give McCants a shot based upon his familiarity with KG, but I think Hassell may have played with KG in Minny also, Morrison intrigues me just because he was a solid player at Gonzaga and Cuttino Mobley can flat out score! All of these guys are unique in their abilities and could easily make this team. As far as Erdan is concerned he has the talent but it is very raw as NBA standards are concerned. However he did comport himself very well in the FIBA championship games. He already can rebound with the NBA bigs,the question is his offensive skills and what they are or will be in 2 years.
     
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    Cutino Mobley was a terrific scorer, however do the Celtics really need another 6'3 shooting guard? I don't know about Morrison because about all I've seen of him is sitting on the Laker's bench and some garbage time minutes. He was a high draft pick and he's 6'8. McCants and Hassell are both respectable NBA players.
       I doubt the C's will cut Delonte. It's possible Erden and or Harrangody will be cut or waived, depending on whether their contracts are guaranteed or not.
      It will be an interesting pre-season. It's almost here. Right now I'm getting more sports fix with the S.F Giants being in the Western division race. Go Giants.   
     
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    Yawn, training camp bodies. Hassell is the only one i would even consider because of his defense. I'm going back to bed nothing to see here.
     
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    Here's a interesting article on our invitations...http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/09/also-working-out-for-the-celtics-cuttino-mobley-rashad-mccants-and-trenton-hassell.php Still don't know who would be the best.
     
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    In Response to Re: Workouts for an invitation to camp:
    [QUOTE]Here's a interesting article on our invitations... http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/09/also-working-out-for-the-celtics-cuttino-mobley-rashad-mccants-and-trenton-hassell.php Still don't know who would be the best.
    Posted by NoahJustin[/QUOTE] From what I gleaned from the article the only one with even a remote possibility of making the team is Morrison and thats based upon his draft status and age.
     
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    If Erden is released I will not be surprised if a lot of teams will go after him. Right now even the Lakers wished they had Erden instead of a 37-year old Theo Ratliff.
     
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    [QUOTE]Cutino Mobley was a terrific scorer, however do the Celtics really need another 6'3 shooting guard? I don't know about Morrison because about all I've seen of him is sitting on the Laker's bench and some garbage time minutes. He was a high draft pick and he's 6'8. McCants and Hassell are both respectable NBA players.    I doubt the C's will cut Delonte. It's possible Erden and or Harrangody will be cut or waived, depending on whether their contracts are guaranteed or not.   It will be an interesting pre-season. It's almost here. Right now I'm getting more sports fix with the S.F Giants being in the Western division race. Go Giants.   
    Posted by mem17[/QUOTE]

    Your kidding right? Cut the 2nd round steal of the draft or the young 7 footer just signed to a 2 year guaranteed contract coming off the FIBA finals! For one of these chumps?

    There are only two players on the roster that are potential cuts ... Wafer & West. Neither has a guaranteed contract and either or both could be released for almost nothing especially if they don't work out as planned in training camp. The other possibility is a two or three for one trade. Still plenty of time for things to happen.
     
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    Erden will be solid over time, he'll fit in with the eventual youth movement that will happen after a season or two. The only person IMO that would suit the Celtics would be Morrison. Why make the SG log jam even more full, I mean he had a lot of potential as a Bobcat. Also riding the bench to two championships had to enstill a lot of core values and rounded him as a player. It's worth a pick up
     
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    [QUOTE]If Erden is released I will not be surprised if a lot of teams will go after him. Right now even the Lakers wished they had Erden instead of a 37-year old Theo Ratliff.
    Posted by P34[/QUOTE]

    I agree.  That is just one reason that the rest of these invitees will be only getting a temporary paycheck during training camp.

    Morrison has a small chance to replace Wafer due to his height.  Maybe Danny/Doc want to see if he can pick up any of the defensive system before settling on a final 15 player roster.
     
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    We need a defensive back-up SF.  The only one that fits the description is Hassel. 
    Is Morrisson a better fit than Wafer? Maybe, because he is more of a team player on offense. 
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Workouts for an invitation to camp : Your kidding right? Cut the 2nd round steal of the draft or the young 7 footer just signed to a 2 year guaranteed contract coming off the FIBA finals! For one of these chumps? There are only two players on the roster that are potential cuts ... Wafer & West. Neither has a guaranteed contract and either or both could be released for almost nothing especially if they don't work out as planned in training camp. The other possibility is a two or three for one trade. Still plenty of time for things to happen.
    Posted by Mployee8[/QUOTE]
       You're over reacting to my post. I stated it's "possible" Erden or Harrangody could be cut. I hope either isn't cut. Both players have potential. The other outside possibility of a C on the roster being cut is Wafer. The other players on the roster are in this season, even Bradley as he's a number 19 pick. As I stated before, I can't imagine Delonte being cut. He's too good of a player and Ainge and Doc have always liked him.
        The most likely scenerio is that all of the invites get cut as the C's already have 15 roster spots. I really don't understand why Ainge invited all these other guys to camp.
     
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    I look at Erden and think he could be an NBA player, but where does he get minutes?  Harangody too.  D leaguers? 

    McCants is a decent player, but has he played much in the past few seasons? Morrison just doesn't seem to be a fit, he seems pretty frail.  I have always liked Mobley, but I think he's at least 35 now?  Trenton Hassell?  Journeyman, may be a TA-type player as an undersized SF?  Not sure he's the "shooter" they're looking for.  McCants would just add to their stockpile of 2 guards.      
     
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      From what I recall Erden has a non guaranteed contract  and from what i saw of him in summer league, he looks like a stiff to me.

    If they are looking for a good all player Mccants would be my choice.  looking for a good shooter morrison is the man.  

    dboss
     
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    Thought Erden was guaranteed.  Haven't seen him in Euroleague, but he looked decent enough playing for the Tukish national team.  Will he get any minutes if here?  Can't see how, unless there are injuries.   
     
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    [QUOTE]Thought Erden was guaranteed.  Haven't seen him in Euroleague, but he looked decent enough playing for the Tukish national team.  Will he get any minutes if here?  Can't see how, unless there are injuries.   
    Posted by CablesWyndBairn[/QUOTE]
       A blogger stated here about a month or so ago that Erden's contract was guaranteed for the first year but not the second year.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Workouts for an invitation to camp :    A blogger stated here about a month or so ago that Erden's contract was guaranteed for the first year but not the second year.
    Posted by mem17[/QUOTE]

    Two years guaranteed for cheap US currency ... no NBA experience = $473K/yr for the first year and presumably not much more for the 2nd year.

    They could pay the $950K to cut him but that would be outright stupid when he could be traded. As I said before, cutting him for another unsigned free agent would be paramount to a self-banning of the C's to the foreign player pool as nobody would want to sign here in the future.

    http://twitter.com/ShamSports/status/19082159890
     
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    [QUOTE]McCants could work, but if Danny is looking for shooters, why not Morrison...I know he cannot defend but...
    Posted by beavis[/QUOTE]
    Exactly.
     
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    Here's an update to those who have been invited too Celtic Camp: Stephane Lasme the 6'8" SF who played his college ball at U-Mass,Jamar Smith the former SG from Southern Indiana University who averaged 20 ppg last season, and Chris Johnson the former LSU Center who will have some support in his corner in BBD and Shaq..
     
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    [QUOTE]Here's an update to those who have been invited too Celtic Camp: Stephane Lasme the 6'8" SF who played his college ball at U-Mass,Jamar Smith the former SG from Southern Indiana University who averaged 20 ppg last season, and Chris Johnson the former LSU Center who will have some support in his corner in BBD and Shaq..
    Posted by sportsbozo1[/QUOTE]

    Lasme could be useful. Played PF/C at UMass and was defensive player of the year and their career shot block leader and possibly rebounder as well (ahead of Camby) ... offense at the SF spot may be questionable but quickness, length and wingspan to play D against guards, SF's and some PF's .... Intriguing!
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Workouts for an invitation to camp : Lasme could be useful. Played PF/C at UMass and was defensive player of the year and their career shot block leader and possibly rebounder as well (ahead of Camby) ... offense at the SF spot may be questionable but quickness, length and wingspan to play D against guards, SF's and some PF's .... Intriguing!
    Posted by Mployee8[/QUOTE]
       I agree. Pierce's back up doesn't have to be a big scorer. Someone who is 6'7 or 6'8 who is a good defender is what we're looking for. The C's second unit has plenty of scoring punch with Nate, Delonte, Wafer, either O'neal and Big Baby.
      I did a little research on him. He's in his late 20's and has little NBA experience. However he has a lot of experience playing pro ball over seas. As you mentioned, his college stats were terrific. I hope he turns out to be a defensive specialist that is a late bloomer like Bruce Bowen. Anything is possible.
     
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    New Rule: Beginning this season, up to three players cut last from the roster of an NBA team before the D-League Draft will be allocated to that team's D-League affiliate provided they sign the standard D-League contract.

    This may help explain why the C's are still looking at players and inviting guys like Smith, Lasme & Johnson to camp.

    http://espn.go.com/blog/boston/celtics/post/_/id/4676825/nbdl-allocation-change-and-the-cs

    />> "For the D-League, allocation now becomes as much or more important than the draft," the coach continued. "Teams that have a close NBA affiliation will have an advantage year in and year out, but if your affiliate NBA teams have open roster spots in a given year, they will attract some of the best available free agents so there can be a lot of luck involved."

    So what does this mean for the Celtics?

    Boston is one team set to bring in upwards of 20 players for camp, already boasting a full 15-man roster, a non-guaranteed contract for Tony Gaffney, and three invites in Stephane Lasme, Jamar Smith, and Chris Johnson (another non-guaranteed contract, Oliver Lafayette, was reportedly waived Friday). If one of those younger players has a solid showing, but not enough to muscle their way onto the regular-season roster, it might help the Celtics hold onto their rights by assigning them to Maine.

    The hitch here appears to be contracts. According to the FanHouse report, the players cut from the parent team must sign a NBDL contract and those are regarded as low-paying jobs. A player with NBA potential might find a bigger payday overseas, which means you're unlikely to see the fringe players slide through (especially since other NBA teams might be interested in them as well).

    So the new rule, which is aimed at strengthening the bond between parent clubs and their NBDL affiliates, might allow Boston to retain their invitees like Lasme, Smith, and Johnson, but it's unlikely to work anything like baseball, where a veteran might ink a major-league deal and be assigned to the minors.  <<

    This is good news for a team like the C's with so many aging vets ... rather than having to lose out on a player like Gafney, they can assign him to their affiliate and call them up if they have an open roster spot or stockpile young talent for expiring contracts next year.

    No wonder Portland invited Patty Mills back to camp despite having 15 roster spots under contract. Even if they don't trade Rudy for a draft pick and open up a new roster spot they can assign Mills who never signed his qualified offer for $1m to their affiliate and retain his rights ... bet he's PO'd at his agent for not having a Plan B when he didn't get an RFA offer and now may have to sign an NBDL contract for short money.
     
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    Wow ... no response to the new NBDL rule on Pro to Affiliate allocation of players.

    Has this already been discussed or is there no interest in the concept of protecting the last three players cut from the NBA team? This is great news for the C's and could be more valuable than the draft over the long haul.


     

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