The best American athlete

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    The best American athlete

    Manny Ramirez.
     
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    The best American athlete

    I agree with everything you 'say' about Tiger -
    "Tiger is a great golfer, but ... when you say athlete, I think of Carl Lewis
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    Tiger Woods please? I would recommend you do your research before you make such a shallow remark.

    Woods has won fourteen professional major golf championships, the second highest of any male player, and 65 PGA Tour events, third all time. He has more career major wins and career PGA Tour wins than any other active golfer. He is the youngest player to achieve the career Grand Slam, and the youngest and fastest to win 50 tournaments on tour.

    Woods has held the number one position in the world rankings for the most consecutive weeks and for the greatest total number of weeks. He has been awarded PGA Player of the Year a record nine times, the Byron Nelson Award for lowest adjusted scoring average a record eight times, and has tied Jack Nicklaus' record of leading the money list in eight different seasons. He has been named Associated Press Male Athlete of the Year a record-tying four times, and is the only person to be named Sports Illustrated's Sportsman of the Year more than once.

    I guess that's just mediocre right.....

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    The best American athlete

    Several posters have already commented on what an impossible question this is...but since you've put it out there, I'll (stupidly, I guess) tackle it with this observation:

    If you're old enough to remember the 60's, only ONE athlete both dominated a sport and an era. Muhammed Ali was the only sportsman who was not onle the best in his field but was also representative of an era and a major contributor to it.

    There's no way to compare skills between sports or across eras...this is closest I think we can get.
     
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    The best American athlete

    Several posters have already commented on what an impossible question this is...but since you've put it out there, I'll (stupidly, I guess) tackle it with this observation:

    If you're old enough to remember the 60's, only ONE athlete both dominated a sport and an era. Muhammed Ali was the only sportsman who was not onle the best in his field but was also representative of an era and a major contributor to it.

    There's no way to compare skills between sports or across eras...this is closest I think we can get.
     
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    The best American athlete

    Jim Thorpe was undoubtedly the best athlete ever,Pro baseball,Pro Football and champion Olympic Athlete.
     
  6. You have chosen to ignore posts from JoanValdez. Show JoanValdez's posts

    The best American athlete

    Come on folks, stop adding Tiger Woods to the list. Danny Ainge? Why not Kermit Washington? And I thought adding Pete Sampras to the list was ludicrous........

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    Zaharias - add her to the Greatest Chick Athletes of All Time list. She doesn't belong here and is a token to keep the female readership at bay.

    Woods, Phelps - great in their line of work but specialty athletes, nothing more. I refuse to discuss further.

    Williams - great hitter and ballplayer no doubt, but probably not the greatest athlete. His head, however, might disagree with me.

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    Ruth - he's probably the Greatest Anti Athlete. For all of his drinking, smoking, and womanizing (fine qualities, mind you), he was still able to produce great numbers. He was also a terrific pitcher before he discovered a bat.

    Robinson - a solid ballplayer, but greater for what he did for the game.

    Ali - probably more famous for his mouth. I loved when he said "they took Joe Frasier's face and stuck it in dough to make gorilla cookies". Frasier got his revenge 30 years later by calling Ali a "stammering fool". Boxing has always been a breath of fresh air.

    In The Top 5

    Armstrong - exhibits greatness, cycling is not easy, battling through cancer adds to it.

    Jordan - a pure athlete. His propensity to gamble on the golf course just adds to his stature.

    Thorpe - one of those guys that could do anything upon request and be the best at it.

    Clemente - a five tool baseball player. In reply to an earlier post, Clemente was born in Puerto Rico and could vote as an American so he is considered an American.

    The Greatest of All Time is Jim Brown. He is in 3 Halls of Fame, was a NFL record holder for years, and was a 2x Lacrosse All American. In the NFL, he was able to take a daily beating and still put up great numbers. And if you ever saw him play lacrosse, you'd be stunned. He is widely considered to be the best player to ever play the game.......and that is almost 50 years ago! He STILL looks like he can play.
     
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    The best American athlete

    In terms of pure athleticism and versatility, nobody compares to Babe Didrikson except possibly Jim Thorpe. In terms of the ability to dominate one sport (and factoring in the degree of difficulty of that sport), then it is of course Lance Armstrong. If you are to consider notoriety and impact as part of "greatness," then nobody -- NOBODY -- is in the same class as Babe Ruth.

    Finally, the greatest team sport athlete is of course Bill Russell, and why he isn't on the list is something I'd like to see explained.
     
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    The best American athlete

    I agree with most of the list but I have to add Babe Ruth.He was a 20 game winner as a pitcher,he stole home 10 times and we all know about his HRs..He out homered most teams in his prime..Why is Clemente on the list?He isnt American.If Bo stayed healthy he was gonna reach an unheard of level
     
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    The best American athlete

    My list would be something like Jessie Owens, Carl Lewis, Bruce Jenner, Bill Russell, Babe Dedrickson.

    A whole other question would be most important American athlete ever which for me would be Jackie Robinson, Ali, Babe Ruth
     
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    The best American athlete

    This is a really silly question, as I'm sure the Boston Globe knows when they posed it just to generate controversy.

    First you need some kind of criteria as to what defines greatness. But even with those criteria, the various sports are so different that comparisons are meaningless. Heck, you can't even make comparisons within a single sport given the way equipment and the nature of the games change over time.

    Yawn!
     
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    The best American athlete

    There's more to greatness than sport performance, there is the man himself, and in that case it's Ali, who gave it all up for his principles . But if you combine performance and character, then it's Bill Russell. Russell won 2 college titles, defered his pro payday to play and win Gold in the '56 Olympics, and of course he is the most successful pro of all time in any sport ever. He stood up for civil rights, and has been a gentleman his entire life. No contest.
     
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    The best American athlete

    Yeah - the gender balance is way off. What about Mary Lou Retton, Michele Quan, etc?

     
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    The best American athlete

    Seabiscuit.
     
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    The best American athlete

    Dick Hoyt -- nice addition and clearly one of my heroes. Imagine the records he'd set if he didn't have to push and pull his son with him! What an incredibly strong athlete and dedicated father.

    Rocky Marciano beat Ali in a 1970 computer-simulated match-up -- my vote here goes to my fellow Italo-American. Ali is self-proclaimed great -- I never cared much for his pompous attitude and foolish drivel.

    I have tremendous respect and awe for Armstrong, Phelps, Flo-Jo, and other athletes who reach the top of their game with laser-like dedication and true grit that make us desk jockeys, couch potatoes, and weekend warriors seem small and irrelevant.

    Greatest athlete ever? I can't pick one.

     
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    The best American athlete

    The Para Olympics are just as important as the regular olympics and it is there that the worlds greatest Olympian can be found: Tanni Grey-Thompson who retired after the last Olympics with 11 Gold medals. Well done, Phelps, if you equal her record but she got there first......
     
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    The best American athlete

    BDG, What is the definition of an athlete? Most people are saying who is the best in their sport.
     
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    The best American athlete

    This is a great discussion! I only really knew about Jim Thorpe's accomplishments, but I just read up on Jim Brown and Babe Didrikson. What awesome athletes!
     
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    The best American athlete

    It is a joke to have golfers and baseball players on this list. You've got to be kidding! Those of you who didn't vote for Lance Armstrong just don't have a clue to what it takes to ride in such a grueling race like the Tour de France. Oh and then to also win it 7 times in a row. Lance wins this poll running (or cycling) away.
     
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    The best American athlete

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    Tiger Woods please? I would recommend you do your research before you make such a shallow remark.

    Woods has won fourteen professional major golf championships, the second highest of any male player, and 65 PGA Tour events, third all time. He has more career major wins and career PGA Tour wins than any other active golfer. He is the youngest player to achieve the career Grand Slam, and the youngest and fastest to win 50 tournaments on tour.

    Woods has held the number one position in the world rankings for the most consecutive weeks and for the greatest total number of weeks. He has been awarded PGA Player of the Year a record nine times, the Byron Nelson Award for lowest adjusted scoring average a record eight times, and has tied Jack Nicklaus' record of leading the money list in eight different seasons. He has been named Associated Press Male Athlete of the Year a record-tying four times, and is the only person to be named Sports Illustrated's Sportsman of the Year more than once.

    I guess that's just mediocre right.....

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    The best American athlete

    i gotta bash tiger, i love the guy and he is the best golfer period. but golfers are not atlhletes, just ask john daly. amongst others. I disagree about baseball players though, sure there are some who arent physically perfected. but even the most out of shape ballplayer is in better shape than the average joe.
    Now my choice...well i dont consider bike riding a sport either, it is a test of endurance, sure ill give that. But is Lance armstrongs comeback from cancer any more inspiring then john lesters? young kid just coming up, and then the world caves in on him, he fights through it,and hes pitching like an ace. Then he throws a no hitter ( his career record is amazing, absolutely amazing) btw 22 wins 6 losses 3.92 ERA, in his career! Wow! i dont know why the media doesnt jump all over this. oh well.
    Anyway, i would like anyone to show me an athlete, who had more impact on the world and history as we know it than Jesse Owens. this man did more than just win 4 olympic golds , and giving hitler a hissy fit. he ties the world record for the 100 yard dash as a senior in HIGH SCHOOL! he couldnt go to practice after school because he had to work. so the coach coached him in the mornings before school. in colllege , because he was black/african american, he wasnt allowed to have a scholarship, so he had to work to pay his own way. he coudlnt eat withthe team, he had to eat at black only restaurants. he coudnt stay in the same hotels. 1 week before a meet he fell down a flight of stairs injuring his back. he went to the meet and despite his coaches objections, he ran te 100 yard dah, tying the world record, the coach et him compete in 3 other events, the 200 yard run, the 220 low hurdles and the broad jump..all of which he set world records in that day. a feat never before accomplished. then in the 1936 "hitler"olympics in berlin, he won 4 gold medals setting three olympic records while doing so. by the end of the games, even the german fans were cheering for him. he was awardded the highest honor a civilain in the us can recive, the medal of freedom, and later posthumously the congressional gold medal. Sorry guys, Jesse Owens embodied the spirit of what an athlete truly is. No athlete has ever had more of an impact on the world, than Jesse Owens.
    p.s. If cycling is the tough grueling sport, then wouldnt the iron man triathlon be even more a test ?
    if so then lance armstrong pales in comparison to these three people,
    1.Paula Newby Fraser-
    8-time winner of the Ironman Hawaii (overall record)
    4 consecutive victories in Hawaii
    24 Ironman victories overall (overall record)
    Dave Scott- 6-time winner of the Ironman Hawaii (men's record)

    Mark Allen-
    6-time winner of the Ironman Hawaii (men's record) 5 consecutive victories in Hawaii (overall record)

    also-Scottt Rigsby-October 13, 2007 - Rigsby becomes the "first-ever below-the-knee double amputee to finish an Ironman Hawaii.

    now thats an athlete.

     
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    The best American athlete

    "This is a really silly question, as I'm sure the Boston Globe knows when they posed it just to generate controversy."

    What? The idea of a bulletin board is 'discussion' ... that's the whole point of it. Why else would you be here? "just to generate controversy" ... yeah, that's their intent. Just to rile you up. Un-believable.

    As for the topic - it's got to be Jesse Owens or Jim Thorpe. The subject is 'Greatest American Athlete' - not America's most successful person in his/her single sport.

    Tiger Woods is a phenomenal golfer and is in pretty good shape - but please, please don't try and sell me on this "double broken leg and torn ACL" baloney. What the hell is a "double broken leg" anyway? And is that even true? Doubtful.

    For this discussion, Tiger Woods is a joke. As is Ted Williams. His "hardest thing to do in sport is hit a baseball" thing is a bit self-serving, isn't it?
     
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    The best American athlete

    I am 70yrs. young and when much younger watched a movie on the life, trials and tribulations of Jim Thorpe. He has remained my personal hero since then. Athleticism aside he was a fantastic human being.
     
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    The best American athlete

    If you're talking about athletes', the best ones are decathlon athletes for men and haptathlon atheletes for women. All others are specialists who, no matter how good in their own disciplines, cannot compare. You think Lance Armstrong could throw a javelin, do a long-jump, run the 100 m in less than 11 seconds etc etc? There's no question as to who the best athletes are.
     
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    The best American athlete

    Also, golf is not a sport IMO. Its a pastime that even 50+ year old guys can be good at. 'Nuf said!
     
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    The best American athlete

    Rocky Balboa... he clobbered 5 boxing champions over a career spanning 30 years, overcame a speech impediment, has a statue in Philadelphia, and did it all without even being real.
     

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