Re: 2011 Draft
posted at 10/9/2010 11:19 AM EDT
In Response to Re: 2011 Draft
[QUOTE]I can't believe people are so obsessed with the draft. I have a post on here, that some may have seen about getting rid of the 2011 picks for some experienced young talent that can contribute to this team now, and for 5-7 more years with this current unit. Sometimes, I don't know what people find more enjoyable, watching the draft or enjoying the present season? It seems a lot of people on here want the season to be over, and the draft to happen tomorrow. It's ridiculous! Every draft year brings new talent, that BB and the entire team have to start over with from scratch and introduce them into the new england system. We have so many rookies right now from this year learning the system, and its going to take more then one year for them to master it. It's just madness if the pats hold all of these picks, and let this team suffer for it this year. They've lost (via trade for '11 picks) Ellis Hobbs, Richard Seymour, Lawrence Maroney, Randy Moss (via holdout) Logan Mankins (via injury) Ty Warren, Kevin Faulk. They also gave way too much money for an over rated 2.5 tackle per game crying fat boy to sit in the middle of a 3-4 defense of which the 3 part is failing miserably at doing anything aside from playing patty cake with opposing offensive line men. The linebackers outnumber them 84 tackles to 22! This tells me that there getting manhandled, and not producing any effective pass rush once so ever off the defensive line. No wonder the DBs get eaten alive! Give any NFL QB 5 seconds or plus and they'll eat you up. I think making these moves makes no sense once so ever unless something big happens, and they are at that point where something big needs to happen involving trading these picks. I know the Patriots keep preaching it takes a team to win, but in reality, thats BS for what they are actually doing. They've gotten rid of contributors & playmakers from this team, have no dedicated offensive or defensive coordinators, and have placed 100 percent of the load on Tom Bradys shoulders. If Brady is taken out of this equation, the detroit lions would man handle this team right now, the Bills pretty much had there way with them 2 weeks ago. Don't get me wrong, I absolutely love the Patriots, and have seen every single game since I can even remember. Thats why it's a real bitter feeling to see how the Patriots are not giving there Hall of fame QB Brady any help in winning games, during the peak of his career, and instead insist on stock piling picks which will do nothing in this league to make a significant impact within 3 years. So, I guess the strategy is to wait until Brady is 36 to have a solid unit all around him? I can't explain how ridiculous these moves all look put together. I think we are truly seeing who Bill Bellichick is, and that is the one that the Browns, yes the Browns!, ran out of town. The pats need coordinators, and experienced players immediately to win now. Trade those picks!
Posted by rpn123321[/QUOTE]
Valid points on not needing so many 2011 picks and that we should try to get a veteran who can help us now. I'd love for us to challenge for the Super Bowl this year but like it or not we are in rebuilding mode especially on defense and I doubt our defense will become a top 10 unit before the year is over especially without Bodden and Ty Warren. The run to the Super Bowl ended in the pre season when those two guys went down. Add losing Faulk and McGowen and the problem became worse. Like it or not, that's most likely the truth. But much of your post I agreed with until the end.
Dude, your criticism of BB is unfounded. BB pointed out that the Patriots have won more games (and Super Bowls) than any team in the last decade. So, who has done it better? Who would you have coach us and make personnel decisions? Pioli, while in charge of our draft did perhaps the worst job in the NFL in 2006, 2007 and 2008. Only two players remain from '06 and '07 in Gostkowski and Meriweather and only one from '08 is a stud in Mayo. The others from '08 still with the team are Wheatley, Wilhite and Slater - all roll players at best. True in '07 he traded our 2nd and 4th round picks for Welker and Moss. I'll give him that but he made a big blunder with Adalius Thomas that same year.
Belichick has had two solid drafts since Pioli departed. 2009 yielded Chung, Vollmer, Tate, Ingram and Edelman - all appear to be up and coming stars or certainly key contributors. Brace, Butler and Pryor - the jury is still out. 2010 was an amazing draft. Already we can see that Gronkowski, Hernandez, Spikes and McCourty were solid picks with jury still out on Price, Cunningham, Mesko and Deaderick. 2011 draft promises to be even more insanely good for us.
Trading Moss to me was no more of a head scratcher than cutting Lawyer Milloy to start the season or letting Viniteiri walk over $500K. Trading Seymour for a pick 2 years to come, Asante Samuel, Ty Law the list goes on, were moves done for financial reasons. The Patriots WILL NOT overpay for talent, period. By not paying Branch and trading him to Seattle we basically netted Mayo and Moss. Maroney was a bum and a bust. He wasn't going to be resigned anyway. Trading him made sense. Who knows, this Moss move might end up being brilliant. Not in the sense of who we end up drafting in the 3rd round but because it will create an opportunity for the young TEs or Price to emerge. When Bledsoe went down did anyone on the planet think Tom Brady would emerge to become perhaps the greatest QB of all time?
Again, I don't know how you can argue with the success of the way the Patriots have done business. Like BB said, it's a balancing act in doing what is best for the short term and long term. We aren't in the locker room, in the huddle or on the sidelines and even if we were we don't have a fraction of BB's experience or PROVEN success to so overtly challenge his decision making. So again, please tell me what head coach, GM and owner would you want to replace our current regime that would do a better job? The grass isn't always greener and I'll take our front office and head coach over anybody's including the Colts and Jets.