Re: 2011 Patriots Draft Options ***IT'S GO TIME!***
posted at 4/29/2011 1:48 PM EDT
In Response to Re: 2011 Patriots Draft Options ***IT'S GO TIME!***
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: 2011 Patriots Draft Options ***IT'S GO TIME!*** : I never said that he was looking at a conversion guy. Jordan could have been had at 17 and both WIlkerson and Heyward were available at 28, none of which would have to convert to anything and each would have been a definite upgrade to the cadre of non-studs they have now.
And with Jordan at 17, you still could have picked up a decent OT at 28.
Posted by sml1210[/QUOTE]
You "might" be right. But I often bring this up and people do not like to hear it.
The Patriots rate players in a draft against who they have on the roster.
Your opinion is that Jordan, Heyward and Wilkerson are absolute definite substantial upgrades to Wilfork, Warren, Stroud, and Brace.
Maybe or perhaps the Patriots do not feel the same way? Maybe or perhaps they think there is not a big drop off from those three to who ever they have graded in this draft as the next crop they are considering or what's on the roster already?
Fans often make the mistake of assuming just because a guys goes in a particular round in a given year that they are "automatically" better than a player the Pats have on the current roster if that player was drafted in a later round than the guy they were pining over.
Although I liked Jordan for his versatility and honestly thought they would take him. No one on this thread went without questioning ideal fit (other than Wilkerson) for the pats considering past BB DE picks. I mean out of the potential 1st round guys.
I never thought ANY of those guys you mentioned were absolute studs.
I Like Jordan because I liked envisioning him on 3rd down in that sub Jarvis Green role or some unique situational OLB role. As a stud run stuffing every down DE? Never thought of him that way for being amazing.
Thought Wilkerson was over rated but if the pats liked Solder they should have liked Wilkerson as BOTH players are developmental imo. Wilkerson got absolutely destroyed one on one by Ben Ijalana every time he faced him and he did not go in the first round.
Thought Heyward based on style of play fit best but wouldn't sit here and say I think he'll be better than Warren. Similar maybe. Stroud maybe, depends how much he has left, at his best no. The best thing i can say definitively would be they are all younger. Without knowing the FULL plan and evaluation the Pats have for the DL moving forward I am not going suggest to made a mistake.
All three players ended up well into the 2nd half of the 1st round with two of them falling to the bottom.
It's only one day. We don't know what the final draft haul will be. Who they will go after in FA or who they will resign from their own team. We also have no idea what their own end of season internal evaluations and grading showed. The Pats DE situation might have grade out much better than any of us give credit for? No idea.
We might get a better idea of what's what tonight. Should be interesting and looking forward to it.