Re: 2011 Patriots Draft Options ***UPDATED MOCK 1/15***
posted at 1/28/2011 4:00 AM EST
In Response to Re: 2011 Patriots Draft Options ***UPDATED MOCK 1/15***
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: 2011 Patriots Draft Options ***UPDATED MOCK 1/15*** : The kid has once in a ten year speed for his size. If Moch runs in the 4.3s at 229, someone will find a home for him. I don't think it will be us but someone. Another kid I like but has a bit of the opposite problem in that he could be too big to stand up is Pernall McPhee. At 6-3, 274 he would need to lose a few pound but they have been trying him out at OLB. I was impressed with him while scouting Miss St for White and Wright and McPhee couldn't be avoided. He is a solid football player who is always in on the play. He has a very quick move and as Mayock would say, he's quicker than fast. He's kind of caught between positions but he's interesting to me.
Posted by Faucetman[/QUOTE]
hey faucet, mb, sportsbozo and all the regulars. it's been a few days and i'm really behind, not in reading, just in replying. so many posts i want to reply to it's impossible.
first, no one has commented on my thoughts of dumping obrian. do none of you have an opinion? that championship game. predictable is an understatement. seemed like he wasn't at the same game as everyone else.
i thought his game plan and game management and play calling was an "F".
2nd, have any of you considered trading up for any player, particularly a stud (ie esp defensive lineman). is it just crazy to consider trading player and picks to get a game-changer like fairley or dareus. also would you rather have a big blanket approach or trade up in rd 1, 2 for the top 3 players you need? regardless what bill might do (though he is unpredictable).
faucet i see you are advocating as i had suggested in one of my posts, taking the best o lineman high (17).
i think i would trade to go high to try and get fairley or dareus, high in rd 1 to get the best olinman, and high as we need to to get the linebacker we like best.
i dont care about losing a few picks or a few players ie meriweather, etc.
we have a few good players on defense (maybe only 1 or 2 great ones) and an offensive line that will not protect brady from the best pass rushes.
whether through free agency(expensive, less risky though usually than rookie) or the draft, we need a few top tier studs on defense d line, olb, and a beast or 2 on offensive line (yeah i have agreed with someone here, it might be a dream to get 3 of the top o lineman (i dont think that's possible).
all that being said, i have come around to agree with faucet about my original jest about trading for luck next year (#33 this year?) with carolina. i would even go as far as trading up during next year ( ie trading again after having carolina's pick in hand) if another team was looking like they would be first(worst) (before they realize they want locker). ie trade #2 of first round if we have it for #1. brady wont last forever and luck is being called by many as the best qb to come out of college in 20 years.
if we get the top tier d-line, o-linemen, olb, regardless where we get them,
with whatever we have left, i do agree with trying to pick up another o-lineman, a big 3 down back who is also a gamebreaker (we need someone who can get 5 yards reliably against tough defenses esp in playoffs, but is also a threat to break it, so good d teams can't just focus on shutting down the pass. also think we need a tough big receiver who can break free of jams at the line, catch reliably, has speed and height (fa?).
i love cobb after watching, thanks faucet, but to me he is danny and wes, only better (he's a slot receiver/rb). to faucet, do you keep all 3? damn that guy is versatile (he probably can play every position but line (o and d).
i would like to add a corner (someone at least decent). i dont think arrington is what we need. a decent 3rd corner and in case 1 of the starters goes down.
also think we need to replace meriweather. some talent, but very not smart football player.
yeah that's a lot, but most important i think is getting top notch d-line, o-line and olb (plus #1.) signing mankins- he's been rubbing it in newengland's face or kraft anyway, have you heard, so either he is going to get his payback with words, then stay or do it and leave. i'd make him one of the top priorities as well. with him in our line, players respond. otherwise you gotta get at least 2 stud o lineman i believe; and #2.) firing obrian)
ps, csnne roundtable also feel bill has got some yes men, as opposed to when we had crennel and weiss - no one to pick the brain or weigh in equally with bill to make the team better. what have you all thought about my question about bill's possible insecurity around this matter (ie choosing a great o and d coordinator, but who would also be weightier and not a pushover? you would not think he would let it (his insecurity) get in the way of who he wants to help coach the team, but my observation is that bill is very smart football wise but emotionally he has some issues that do sometimes affect his decisions.
almost forgot, troy brown from csnne thinks chad 85 is coming to the patriots.he has said publicly he wants to, and troy feels that is all that is necessary for it to happen. he sounds like a headache to me.
ok this isn't half of what i've wanted to comment on, but all for now.
what are all our thoughts?
ps (can guess a little from your draft suggestions, but what is the theory of each of you why we lost to the jets (simple top reason or 2)?
ps from reading, i respect the people in this thread more than most of the rest of the posters on the other threads, so i love that i can find you guys here and read you guys here. so thanks.