***2013 Patriots Draft Thread V2***

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    As much as I like Phillip Thomas I am not sure about adding another rookie to the safety mix. If Chung leaves as expected I'd like to see the Pats add a wily vet. One UFA guy who intrigues me is Quintan Jammef of the Chargers. He as played CB his whole career but at this stage a move to safety might be in order. I also wonder about another ex-Longhorn - the Bill's Aaron Williams who was drafted high but hasn't found his game in Buffalo. He is another guy, fairly big, who might be better suited at safety than CB.

     

    I had forgotten about Jeff Demps, Mb. Could he be the Pats sleeper of 2013?

     
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    no offense but that is a silly statement. If Chung leaves as expected who do you have at safety - a converted CB in McCourtney, a mediocre vet in Gregory, a guy who never started in college in Ebner and a guy who the jury is still way way out on in Wilson. No, safety remains probably the Pat's weakest and most vunerable position.

     
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    we are set at safety. i guarentee BB does not pick a safety this draft. 

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    A lot depends on what happens with Talib in the off season (i.e. whether DMC stays at S or moves back to CB)... and what they do about Chung who'll be a FA.

    Assuming most declare, this class projects to have some pretty good S talent with Gator S Matt Elam being highest on my list as a Top 40 kid.

     
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    we are set at safety. i guarentee BB does not pick a safety this draft. 

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    A lot depends on what happens with Talib in the off season (i.e. whether DMC stays at S or moves back to CB)... and what they do about Chung who'll be a FA.

    Assuming most declare, this class projects to have some pretty good S talent with Gator S Matt Elam being highest on my list as a Top 40 kid.

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    i don't think DMC is moving from FS and tavon wilson will be givin an opportunity to win the job from gregory next season. if talib leaves i could see NE targeting a CB like xavier rhodes in round 1.

    non-the-less.. my top 3 picks for NE so far. 

    rd 1. Purdue DT kawann short http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0_ueLOWGdU

    rd 2. Kentucky OG larry warford http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glV9ET261DQ 

    rd 3. WV WR stedman bailey http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9i0ZNwUURQ

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    Assuming Short and Jesse Williams are available in Rd 1, I prefer Williams... I'd also have ND NT Louis Nix III ahead of him if he declares. 

    Warford would be a solid Day 2 options... big kid, but can move.

    I like Bailey in the Rd 3 range... good hands, has some RAC ability... also like Ryan Swope in that range.

     
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    we are set at safety. i guarentee BB does not pick a safety this draft. 

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    A lot depends on what happens with Talib in the off season (i.e. whether DMC stays at S or moves back to CB)... and what they do about Chung who'll be a FA.

    Assuming most declare, this class projects to have some pretty good S talent with Gator S Matt Elam being highest on my list as a Top 40 kid.

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    dmc seems to play better at s. i'd rather he stay there. so it's more important for bb to find a cb, fa or draft.

     
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    we are set at safety. i guarentee BB does not pick a safety this draft. 

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    A lot depends on what happens with Talib in the off season (i.e. whether DMC stays at S or moves back to CB)... and what they do about Chung who'll be a FA.

    Assuming most declare, this class projects to have some pretty good S talent with Gator S Matt Elam being highest on my list as a Top 40 kid.

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    i don't think DMC is moving from FS and tavon wilson will be givin an opportunity to win the job from gregory next season. if talib leaves i could see NE targeting a CB like xavier rhodes in round 1.

    non-the-less.. my top 3 picks for NE so far. 

    rd 1. Purdue DT kawann short http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0_ueLOWGdU

    rd 2. Kentucky OG larry warford http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glV9ET261DQ 

    rd 3. WV WR stedman bailey http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9i0ZNwUURQ

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    Assuming Short and Jesse Williams are available in Rd 1, I prefer Williams... I'd also have ND NT Louis Nix III ahead of him if he declares. 

    Warford would be a solid Day 2 options... big kid, but can move.

    I like Bailey in the Rd 3 range... good hands, has some RAC ability... also like Ryan Swope in that range.

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    i liked short early in the season. i thought he played well against nd actually. but he seemed to ahve gotten on a slow decline after that, through mid-season. i was not able to record any purdue games in the second half of the season, so i can't confirm if the decline continued. the stats on espen suggests yes, but i do not like looking at stats for dts. there's so much they do that the numbers don't capture.

    can you tell me your opininon on jarvis jones? he's highly rated, but on the three games that i watched (sec championship, vs florida, and vs another team), he did not look like a top 10 guy. smallish and i though was weak once engaged by a blocker. 

     
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    we are set at safety. i guarentee BB does not pick a safety this draft. 

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    A lot depends on what happens with Talib in the off season (i.e. whether DMC stays at S or moves back to CB)... and what they do about Chung who'll be a FA.

    Assuming most declare, this class projects to have some pretty good S talent with Gator S Matt Elam being highest on my list as a Top 40 kid.

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    i don't think DMC is moving from FS and tavon wilson will be givin an opportunity to win the job from gregory next season. if talib leaves i could see NE targeting a CB like xavier rhodes in round 1.

    non-the-less.. my top 3 picks for NE so far. 

    rd 1. Purdue DT kawann short http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0_ueLOWGdU

    rd 2. Kentucky OG larry warford http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glV9ET261DQ 

    rd 3. WV WR stedman bailey http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9i0ZNwUURQ

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    Assuming Short and Jesse Williams are available in Rd 1, I prefer Williams... I'd also have ND NT Louis Nix III ahead of him if he declares. 

    Warford would be a solid Day 2 options... big kid, but can move.

    I like Bailey in the Rd 3 range... good hands, has some RAC ability... also like Ryan Swope in that range.

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    i liked short early in the season. i thought he played well against nd actually. but he seemed to ahve gotten on a slow decline after that, through mid-season. i was not able to record any purdue games in the second half of the season, so i can't confirm if the decline continued. the stats on espen suggests yes, but i do not like looking at stats for dts. there's so much they do that the numbers don't capture.

    can you tell me your opininon on jarvis jones? he's highly rated, but on the three games that i watched (sec championship, vs florida, and vs another team), he did not look like a top 10 guy. smallish and i though was weak once engaged by a blocker. 

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    Jones is a player that I compare to Bruce Irvin in that he's an extremely athletic kid that can really bring it off the edge, but is prob more specialist at this point as their ability vs. the run is def behind their ability as a pass rusher. 

    I did find it interesting what Saban had to say right after the SEC Championship game... check out the 2:10 spot of the follow link:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFamL-RoPxgWe... def huge props to Georgia, Jones included.

    We all know that pass rushers come at a premium, Irvin being selected 15th overall last year as just another example, so I'd expect Jones to come off the board in the Top 5-10, assuming teams are comfortable with his spinal stenosis.

     
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    I should also point out that I need to watch more tape on Jones to fully gauge his ability as a run defender as I haven't studied him that close on the assumption that he'll be off the board well before NE is expected to select.

     
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    I should also point out that I need to watch more tape on Jones to fully gauge his ability as a run defender as I haven't studied him that close on the assumption that he'll be off the board well before NE is expected to select.

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    thank you.

     
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    no offense but that is a silly statement. If Chung leaves as expected who do you have at safety - a converted CB in McCourtney, a mediocre vet in Gregory, a guy who never started in college in Ebner and a guy who the jury is still way way out on in Wilson. No, safety remains probably the Pat's weakest and most vunerable position.

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    free agent pickup

     
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    College Football Fans Dream and Enjoy This! Final 12 playoff Played Out.


    http://www.boston.com/community/forums/start_discussion/100/1390

     

    Less important than the fun of the whole thing (year in and year out),  i have lsu and bama as the 2 best teams this year (eye test, record aside) with the possible exception of texas a and m (florida is deserving, but doesnt have much of an offense this year). still with a playoff like this, no one gets cheated out of what they deserve. ncaa tournament times 10 in fun, fan interest, and money if those school presidents werent so fearful and corrupted.

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    not many college football fanatics in responding  here?

    the mere bracketing of teams got all my energy flowing greatly.

     
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    As much as I like Phillip Thomas I am not sure about adding another rookie to the safety mix. If Chung leaves as expected I'd like to see the Pats add a wily vet. One UFA guy who intrigues me is Quintan Jammef of the Chargers. He as played CB his whole career but at this stage a move to safety might be in order. I also wonder about another ex-Longhorn - the Bill's Aaron Williams who was drafted high but hasn't found his game in Buffalo. He is another guy, fairly big, who might be better suited at safety than CB.

     

    I had forgotten about Jeff Demps, Mb. Could he be the Pats sleeper of 2013?

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    i have not been able to forget demps since we had him in. still  pissed wr ired him.

     
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    UNC's Giovani Bernard opts for draft

    http://espn.go.com/nfl/draft2013/story/_/id/8746488/north-carolina-tar-heels-rb-giovani-bernard-declares-nfl-draft

    The 5-foot-10, 205-pound tailback led the Atlantic Coast Conference in rushing, scoring, all-purpose yards and punt-return average.

     
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    McShay has 15 SEC players going in the first round, including five among the top 10 picks. 

    The SEC record for most players selected in the first round is 11

    helluva year

     
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    As much as I like Phillip Thomas I am not sure about adding another rookie to the safety mix. If Chung leaves as expected I'd like to see the Pats add a wily vet. One UFA guy who intrigues me is Quintan Jammef of the Chargers. He as played CB his whole career but at this stage a move to safety might be in order. I also wonder about another ex-Longhorn - the Bill's Aaron Williams who was drafted high but hasn't found his game in Buffalo. He is another guy, fairly big, who might be better suited at safety than CB.

     

    I had forgotten about Jeff Demps, Mb. Could he be the Pats sleeper of 2013?

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    Demps is def an intriguing cat... could def impact in the return game, at the very least.

     
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    MB, thoughts on LSU DT Bennie Logan?

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    Adequate size, though not an ideal BB DT at 6-3 295, though he does carry the weight well (thick lower half), could prob add 5-10 pounds without much issue and appears to have long arms.

    When he plays with good leverage/pad level, he's tough to move off his spot, he also has some upfield quickness so I think he could interest both 34 and 43 teams.  He shows good awareness, getting his hands on a fair amount of footballs by putting his hands up... isn't overly quick to the flanks, but gives a good effort in pursuit... didn't see much in the way of pass rush moves.

    Overall, I think he projects as a solid, yet unspectactacular DT prospect that could play for a long time in the NFL... we'll see if he declares.

     
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    Our defense is what, the 2nd youngest in the NFL?  If we can keep Talib, I actually think we could go offense with at least 2 of our 5 picks.  What happens with Welker, Edelman, Woodhead and Vollmer in the off season could be key to what we do in the draft on the offensive side of the ball.  The Pats appear to be sitting on about $35MM in cap space heading into 2013 before any moves are made according to the below article.

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1399828-new-england-patriots-salary-cap-scenario-heading-into-2013

    Welker could certainly be tagged again.  The cost would be $11.4MM which is still a bargain for a guy with his production if a longer term deal cannot be found.  Re-signing Edelman should be doable and before he got hurt showed what a dangerous and versitale weapon he can be in two phases of the game.  Woodhood could be replaced by Vereen if he becomes too expensive or by Demps.

    To me, Vollmer is a big ???  He is often injured and we don't have a top flight OT behind him.  Therefore, I would not be at all shocked if we went with a stud Left Tackle who can back up Solder and possibly start on the right side if we lose Vollmer.  Mankins should be back to form next year and I think Wendell has acquitted himself well this year.  Connolly is back and Nick McDonald is restricted so I don't see us going interior OL. 

     

     
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    Our defense is what, the 2nd youngest in the NFL?  If we can keep Talib, I actually think we could go offense with at least 2 of our 5 picks.  What happens with Welker, Edelman, Woodhead and Vollmer in the off season could be key to what we do in the draft on the offensive side of the ball.  The Pats appear to be sitting on about $35MM in cap space heading into 2013 before any moves are made according to the below article.

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1399828-new-england-patriots-salary-cap-scenario-heading-into-2013

    Welker could certainly be tagged again.  The cost would be $11.4MM which is still a bargain for a guy with his production if a longer term deal cannot be found.  Re-signing Edelman should be doable and before he got hurt showed what a dangerous and versitale weapon he can be in two phases of the game.  Woodhood could be replaced by Vereen if he becomes too expensive or by Demps.

    To me, Vollmer is a big ???  He is often injured and we don't have a top flight OT behind him.  Therefore, I would not be at all shocked if we went with a stud Left Tackle who can back up Solder and possibly start on the right side if we lose Vollmer.  Mankins should be back to form next year and I think Wendell has acquitted himself well this year.  Connolly is back and Nick McDonald is restricted so I don't see us going interior OL. 

     

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    thanks for the reference. im oppostie you with de in draft

    and agree about important decision on vollmer. has his back been same on and off issue alll year, do we expect it to continue? if so move on and get a free agent rt tackle (j. long?)

    im wiht nate, the off pick i like a c/g player more dominant than wendell.

     
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    Our defense is what, the 2nd youngest in the NFL?  If we can keep Talib, I actually think we could go offense with at least 2 of our 5 picks.  What happens with Welker, Edelman, Woodhead and Vollmer in the off season could be key to what we do in the draft on the offensive side of the ball.  The Pats appear to be sitting on about $35MM in cap space heading into 2013 before any moves are made according to the below article.

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1399828-new-england-patriots-salary-cap-scenario-heading-into-2013

    Welker could certainly be tagged again.  The cost would be $11.4MM which is still a bargain for a guy with his production if a longer term deal cannot be found.  Re-signing Edelman should be doable and before he got hurt showed what a dangerous and versitale weapon he can be in two phases of the game.  Woodhood could be replaced by Vereen if he becomes too expensive or by Demps.

    To me, Vollmer is a big ???  He is often injured and we don't have a top flight OT behind him.  Therefore, I would not be at all shocked if we went with a stud Left Tackle who can back up Solder and possibly start on the right side if we lose Vollmer.  Mankins should be back to form next year and I think Wendell has acquitted himself well this year.  Connolly is back and Nick McDonald is restricted so I don't see us going interior OL. 

     

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    Good info.

    I think a lot depends on how they view Cannon moving forward, as Vollmer's backup... I do think they like Sea Bass a lot and would love to have him back, but I wouldn't rule OT out in this draft... particularly Oday Aboushi and Lane Johnson on Day 2. 

     
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    Our defense is what, the 2nd youngest in the NFL?  If we can keep Talib, I actually think we could go offense with at least 2 of our 5 picks.  What happens with Welker, Edelman, Woodhead and Vollmer in the off season could be key to what we do in the draft on the offensive side of the ball.  The Pats appear to be sitting on about $35MM in cap space heading into 2013 before any moves are made according to the below article.

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1399828-new-england-patriots-salary-cap-scenario-heading-into-2013

    Welker could certainly be tagged again.  The cost would be $11.4MM which is still a bargain for a guy with his production if a longer term deal cannot be found.  Re-signing Edelman should be doable and before he got hurt showed what a dangerous and versitale weapon he can be in two phases of the game.  Woodhood could be replaced by Vereen if he becomes too expensive or by Demps.

    To me, Vollmer is a big ???  He is often injured and we don't have a top flight OT behind him.  Therefore, I would not be at all shocked if we went with a stud Left Tackle who can back up Solder and possibly start on the right side if we lose Vollmer.  Mankins should be back to form next year and I think Wendell has acquitted himself well this year.  Connolly is back and Nick McDonald is restricted so I don't see us going interior OL. 

     

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    Good info.

    I think a lot depends on how they view Cannon moving forward, as Vollmer's backup... I do think they like Sea Bass a lot and would love to have him back, but I wouldn't rule OT out in this draft... particularly Oday Aboushi and Lane Johnson on Day 2. 

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    mb, no one saying we dont like him. i love him. if tehy think his back wont hinder his play or games played for his career, of course they keep him.

     
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    Appreciate the info on available salary cap space Faucet. $35 million is enough cash to seriously improve depth and even add some quality veteran starters. Im really looking at the Eagles roster as there are some really talented veterans on there who I want to see on the pats. Nnamdi Asmomugha, Cullen Jenkins and DE Phillip Hunt are 3 guys I hope the pats take a long look at. Dwight Freeney from the colts would also look great at RDE sharing time with Chandler Jones.

    If we can address S/CB, DT and DE needs prior to the draft we go in with the luxury of being able to pick strictly Best Player Available. It seems that often we see players in the draft sliding for whatever reason. If you recall last year, everyone had Chandler Jones as a top 15 pick on draft day and David Decastro going no later than Cincinatti at 17 but both fell later. I feel less and less confident that guys like Ezekiel Ansah and Margus Hunt will be available when we pick in the 1st. I have also cooled quite a bit on Jesse Williams and John Jenkins. I expect both of them to go no earlier than the second. Teams do not place a high value on guys deemed to be no more than space eaters. A this point I would rather the pats signed Alameda Taamu of the Steelers practice squad than use a high pick on any NT not named Hankins or Lotulelei.

    For What Its Worth, These are some of my favorites at the end of the 1st

    Robert Woods WR USC; Kenny Vaccaro FS/SS Texas; Tony Jefferson FS/SS Oklahoma; Ezekiel Ansah DE BYU; Margus Hunt DE/DT SMU

    In the second

    Matt Elam S Florida; Logan Ryan CB Rutgers; Leon McFadden CB San Diego State; Sean Porter OLB Texas A&M;

    I did not include any OL prospects as the only guy I have seen a good amount of is Barrett Jones. The more I see him the less thrilled I am about him as a Pats pick. He strikes me as a great technician pass blocking but underwhelms when it comes to moving his man in the run game. He will often let his man run himself out of the play and wall him off but rarely do you see him able to just square up to the DT and drive him 3 yards past the Line of scrimmage. He is very similar to what we currently have in Wendell and Connolly at Center. I was hoping for more like a Mangold, Pouncey Brothers at C. Barrett Jones is not that.

     
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    Appreciate the info on available salary cap space Faucet. $35 million is enough cash to seriously improve depth and even add some quality veteran starters. Im really looking at the Eagles roster as there are some really talented veterans on there who I want to see on the pats. Nnamdi Asmomugha, Cullen Jenkins and DE Phillip Hunt are 3 guys I hope the pats take a long look at. Dwight Freeney from the colts would also look great at RDE sharing time with Chandler Jones.

    If we can address S/CB, DT and DE needs prior to the draft we go in with the luxury of being able to pick strictly Best Player Available. It seems that often we see players in the draft sliding for whatever reason. If you recall last year, everyone had Chandler Jones as a top 15 pick on draft day and David Decastro going no later than Cincinatti at 17 but both fell later. I feel less and less confident that guys like Ezekiel Ansah and Margus Hunt will be available when we pick in the 1st. I have also cooled quite a bit on Jesse Williams and John Jenkins. I expect both of them to go no earlier than the second. Teams do not place a high value on guys deemed to be no more than space eaters. A this point I would rather the pats signed Alameda Taamu of the Steelers practice squad than use a high pick on any NT not named Hankins or Lotulelei.

    For What Its Worth, These are some of my favorites at the end of the 1st

    Robert Woods WR USC; Kenny Vaccaro FS/SS Texas; Tony Jefferson FS/SS Oklahoma; Ezekiel Ansah DE BYU; Margus Hunt DE/DT SMU

    In the second

    Matt Elam S Florida; Logan Ryan CB Rutgers; Leon McFadden CB San Diego State; Sean Porter OLB Texas A&M;

    I did not include any OL prospects as the only guy I have seen a good amount of is Barrett Jones. The more I see him the less thrilled I am about him as a Pats pick. He strikes me as a great technician pass blocking but underwhelms when it comes to moving his man in the run game. He will often let his man run himself out of the play and wall him off but rarely do you see him able to just square up to the DT and drive him 3 yards past the Line of scrimmage. He is very similar to what we currently have in Wendell and Connolly at Center. I was hoping for more like a Mangold, Pouncey Brothers at C. Barrett Jones is not that.

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    I'd like to see Chance Warmack drop a bit like DeCastro, being that he's a pure OG, but even at 24 I think he'd be out of NE's range... awesome football player though.

    I think the opposite is true, players that can clog the middle generally come at a premium on draft day especially those that are successful at doing so in the SEC.  Personally, I'm higher on Williams than Jenkins... I'd also have ND NT Louis Nix III near the top of my board if he declares.

     

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