Re: Assessment of Matt Patricia as Defensive Coordinator...
posted at 10/14/2012 9:45 AM EDT
In response to mthurl's comment:
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In response to rkarp's comment:
Patricia is a really bright guy and great football mind. He is more in charge of the defense than given credit for. However, the defensive style is going to be BB decision, with the schemes and play calling designed by Patricia to fit within BB's desired style. The player decisions are closer than you think. 60-40 in BB's final call.
the coaches as a group discuss personnel decisions, but the draft and free agency are done without coach final say, it is all on BB.
rkarp, what do you think of the Pats' recent coordinators on both offense and defense? How much impact do you think they have (or did have)? And do you think they are (or were) good or bad. I'd be interested in your perspective because if I remember right you have some firsthand knowledge of the team.
As I said, BB dictates defensive philosophy the Pats will play. For instance we know he doesn't like to overload zones, and he doesn't like to blitz often. Petricia will take this philosophy and each game will scheme a plan specifically designed against the opposing team. So Petricia is scheming the game plan, within BB' s desired philosophy. This differs from the Ryan's defensive philosophy of " this is the way we play(over loading zones and pressure) and try to stop us". It worked for Rex when Revis and Cro were on top of their game allowing for overloaded zones. It did not work for Rob when he didn't have CB coverage.
Contrary to this board, I thought both OB and McD are outstanding. The offense is always prepared and makes few mental mistakes. If you make mental mistakes, you don't play(Chad Johnson). The physical mistakes ( mostly Oline) are highly stressed during the week and coached vigorously during the week for improvement. I also think that 50% of the actual offensive plays that are run, are check offs from Brady. So while McD and OB are criticized for plays called or not called, it is actually Brady that either ran or didn't the play called. Of course, Brady has been very successful in his play calling and reading what the defense will give.
A lot has been made of Brady's favorite receiver is the one who is open. That is baloney. Brady's first, second and third reads are on the receivers he KNOWS will be in the right place in the route. Even if covered like a blanket, Brady still throws the ball, usually back shoulder, knowing the receiver is in the right place to make a play on the ball.
Interesting. I will disagree with some of it. When this defense takes away what a team likes to do best (at least when they used to be able to do that)..wouldn't they load a zone then? I mean if they're taking away a Randy Moss or Larry Fitzgerald they're not doing this playing straight honest zone defense, right?
And as far as Brady just going to the guy that will be open in his 1,2,3, progressions...think about that for a second. Most QB's can't do that. Bledsoe had two progressions for much of his career, it was Ben Coates (or Glenn) and if that first guy wasn't open he'd release a very ugly dump off pass to a fullback or runner in the flat (and there was a time where he couldn't hit that either). And I loved Bledsoe - great great arm - no one could throw a 20 yard out like him, but the guy (and a lot of guys) can't see most of the field. Everyone talks about how great Andrew Luck is going to be (and he may), but the guy locks onto one guy most of the play. Conversly RG3 doesn't , he actually looks over the field and throws to the open guy. I understand what you are saying about throwing it to the open guy is baloney, but my point is going through 3 progressions is a big deal in this league. A really big deal.
As far as this back shoulder throw that is the rage now with Brady and others, I think it has to do with the guy he is throwing that to (LLyod). Llyod can't get open deep - he runs a 4.6 on a good day - but he has so many little things he does with varying his speed and stopping his feet that the back shoulder throw may be part of a design with him. The only other guy I ever saw Brady do that with once in a while was Faulk. Normally I don't think Brady will intentionally throw it to a covered guy, except maybe for Gronk because he will catch it anyways.
No, they played mostly a soft cover 2 on Fitz. On the back end they prefer to play safe, and not give up the behind the safety plays. Unfortunately, the safeties are not always in the right position to abide to this philosophy.
Usually over loading a zone refers to a defensive rushing lane. The Jets and Cowboys like to put 3 on 2 rush men, or 2 on 1 rush men, overloading one side of the o line to pressure the qb. The Pats very rarely do this, prefering to play the numbers. The Pats feel the more offensive snaps a team has, the more they will turn it over, hence, the bend but do not break term.
This defense is deemed to be playing well based on turn overs, not yards allowed. They seem to be content to sit back and let ththe her team make a mistake, with the more plays the other team runs, the more apt they are to a mistake.
Agreed on Brady. His 2 best attributes are seeing the field and accuracy.