Re: BELICHICK = BLAME
posted at 10/8/2013 8:37 AM EDT
What are you talking about?
Inferior product? Because they lost a close low scoring game in which they did not play particularly well on one side of the ball? They lost by 7 points and had a chance right up till pretty much the very end of the game.
You try and make it sound like they lost 47-0 with your inferior product BS.
As far as the Cincy goal line play I don't know what you are talking about either. The Pats got beat at the point of attack. No Wilfork or Kelly, etc. It happens. Tip your cap to the other team. They were not in disarray. In fact I think it was Nink called a line call just before the snap, shifting everyone bunch to the middle right at the point of attack. It was perfectly done and they just got beat. Kudos to Cincy for powering through.
As far as the O side of the ball give it a rest.
Lets look at TE 1st. Like BB knew Gronk was going to take this long, if doctors where telling him otherwise? We do not know exactly what BB knew or what Dr's were telling him. You also are not band-aid fixing Gronk missing for weeks with a high-end replacement. Anyone high-end has a permanent gig, not a fill in. Like BB knew Hern would do what he did? He had plenty of TE's in camp. Even took a gamble paying a guy on IR last season in hopes he might be able to help this season(Ballard). Did not work out. Brought in a promising FA TE(Sudfeld). Had to take a chance on releasing him because of roster juggling due to injuries. Had others in like Fells and Hooman who had familiarity with both Brady and the system, not rookies.
Lets look at RB. He returned 3 of the top 4 backs from the "supposedly great" 2012 offense. That wasn't enough for you? Sure I really appreciate Woody also, he's a player. However, they drated a guy with even more athletic talent some years ago and slowly groomed him to eventually be able to take over that spot. At some point they pass the torch. It was going to happen. It happened, get over it. So bb knew Ridley, Vereen, and Boldin would "all" be injured and miss time early in the season before it started right? Woody did not make it through a full season in his 1st 3 years in the NFL. Maybe he would have been hurt this season as a Patriot as well. What a guy does with another team is irrelevant to what "might" happen here. Everyone has been whining about KO returns. BB got another option who is also a backup RB in Washington. I am sure BB was suppose to know that he would get injured right of the bat as well. Then BB trades a guy who is not even dedicated to football for a guy who is forgotton about on another team and can also back up Ridley as a potential lead back. Good thing he did since Ridley was out last game. So of all the things he DID do, you want to try and make something out of Woody not being back? Serioisly?
Finally the WR position. Branch was done and is done. Lloyd is a Bi-polar Loony bird who is not even in the NFL anymore. At least not right now. You can also add Hern into this discussion as he was as much a WR as he was a TE. Again, no one saw his actions coming. Edelman is back. For years people talked about him eventually being able to take over for Welker one day. Similar to the Vereen argument with Woody above. He showed he had capabilities as far back as filling in for Welker when Welker blew out his knee prior to the playoffs in 2009. Also let's stay on Welker for a moment. The Pats tried for how long to get a deal done with him? How many times did Kraft speak on the subject. Publicly stating he wanted him to stay but it takes two sides to do a deal and get agents and lawyers out of the equation? Did the Pats grossly misjudge his "actual" market value? I think not. Welker and his agent tried to play the supply and demand game to force the Pats into having to pay more. The Pats said I don't think so but nice try and signed someone else. Everyone had been whining that the Pats needed to draft some young WRs and develop them. They did that, including a guy who is fast. WHich was another whine, no one to stretch the field blah blah. The Pats brought in other FA WR's to compete. Those players were beat out. Whether "you" like the guys they took a look at or not is irrelevant to the idea that they addressed the position with who they thought would fit the team culture and offensive system. The Patriots also made a play for a restricted FA WR(Sanders). It did not work out, get over it. Even if it did work out there was NO guarantee he would be killing it here in this system or immediately been on the same page with Brady with zero communication problems. Could they have offered 1 more mil? Based on cap, sure, probably. Would it have made any difference at all in landing him? No one has the faintest idea. Could the Pats have given Welker 1 more mil? Based on cap, sure, probably. Would he have accepted that? No one has a clue as both sides of that negotiation are going to say whatever they want publicly and the truth lies well in the middle somewhere. Forget the Pats WR's for a moment, who is absolutely lighting it up somewhere else? Branch and Lloyd not even playing. Welker? Edelman has more catches than him at the moment. ..and Amendola and Edleman combined have more than him, if you want to consider those two injury guys equal to one welker. Wallace? Hartline? Hopkins? Sanders? Who? Some of those guys are 20-25 catches at the moment. Yes a lil bit better than Thompkins and Dobson so far. Less than Edleman though. More importantly is that in Thompkins case the difference is like 3 or 4 receptions. Is the 3 or 4 reception difference worth multi millions of dollars? Not to me. Not only that but when a players current team is actually genuinely interested in keeping a guy you usually have to really over pay to pry a player away from a team they are already settled with.
So basically what you are trying to tell all of us here is that.... wait for it....
Wes Welker and Danny Woodhead made this offense be what it was last year. Right?
How could the Chargers lose to the Raiders this week with Woody playing for them? I can't believe it. ...and Peyton must be cramming the ball down Welkers throat every play and he is what is making that offense go. Correct?
I don't mean to be a complete wise guy but I really do not understand any of that talk.
** shaking head **