Brady 10-0 in playoffs then 6-6 since

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    Brady 10-0 in playoffs then 6-6 since

    In those 12 games he has not had 2 good games in a row. Can he string 3 good games in a row this year to win it all?

     
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    Re: Brady 10-0 in playoffs then 6-6 since

    Give us a reason he can't?

     
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    Re: Brady 10-0 in playoffs then 6-6 since

    Montana was 4-3 in CCGs and 9-7 in divisional games. Fetus Head is 9-10 in the playoffs.

     

    Give Brady a defense like when he was 10-0 and that 6-6 might look a whole lot better.

     

     
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    Montana was 4-3 in CCGs and 9-7 in divisional games. Fetus Head is 9-10 in the playoffs.

     

    Give Brady a defense like when he was 10-0 and that 6-6 might look a whole lot better.

     

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    Give Manning or Montana those defenses and they would have been 10-0, too. 

     
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    Montana was 4-3 in CCGs and 9-7 in divisional games. Fetus Head is 9-10 in the playoffs.

     

    Give Brady a defense like when he was 10-0 and that 6-6 might look a whole lot better.

     

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    Give Manning or Montana those defenses and they would have been 10-0, too. 

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    Give Brady the defenses he had in the run years and he'd be 22 - 0 possibly.  Unfortunately, doesn't happen. 

     
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    Tom Brady has led the Pats to a division title every year as a starter except for one.

    Tom Brady has led the Pats to the conference championship 6 out of 10 times as a starter.

    Tom Brady has led the Pats to the Super Bowl 5 out of 10 times as a starter.

    And he won 3 Super Bowls.

    That is all.

    For now.

     
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    Montana was 4-3 in CCGs and 9-7 in divisional games. Fetus Head is 9-10 in the playoffs.

     

    Give Brady a defense like when he was 10-0 and that 6-6 might look a whole lot better.

     

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    I really find it hard to believe that knowledgeable football fans don't understand that having a bad defense can kill a great offense, especially when it's poor play results in a decreased number of possessions for their offense.

     
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    Re: Brady 10-0 in playoffs then 6-6 since

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    Montana was 4-3 in CCGs and 9-7 in divisional games. Fetus Head is 9-10 in the playoffs.

     

    Give Brady a defense like when he was 10-0 and that 6-6 might look a whole lot better.

     

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    Give Manning or Montana those defenses and they would have been 10-0, too. 

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    Patriots D ranks in SB winning years in terms of scoring were 6, 1 and 2

    Manning had a 2nd ranked scoring D in 2005 and a 1st ranked in 2007 and a 7th ranked in 2008.  The result?  3 one and dones.  That's almost 10-0.  Right?

     
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    Re: Brady 10-0 in playoffs then 6-6 since

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    Montana was 4-3 in CCGs and 9-7 in divisional games. Fetus Head is 9-10 in the playoffs.

     

    Give Brady a defense like when he was 10-0 and that 6-6 might look a whole lot better.

     

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    Give Manning or Montana those defenses and they would have been 10-0, too. 

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    Stop lying troll.

    In 2002 the Colts went one and out despite having the 7th rated scoring defense as Fetus Head threw 2 picks and zero TDs.

    In 2005 they went one and out despite having the 2nd rated scoring defense.

    In 2007 they went one and out despite having the #1 rated scoring defense as Fetus Head threw another 2 picks.

    In 2008 they went one and out despite having the 7th rated scoring defense.

    In 2009 they lost the SB despite having the 8th ranked scoring defense.

     

    That's half of Fetus Head's losses despite having a top 10 D.

     

     

     
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    Re: Brady 10-0 in playoffs then 6-6 since

    So the Pats D caused Bradys 16 INTs in those 12 games?

     
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    Re: Brady 10-0 in playoffs then 6-6 since

    When exactly did Football become an individual sport?

     
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    When did Jets fans start photographing Pats super bowl parades?

     
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    So the Pats D caused Bradys 16 INTs in those 12 games?

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    The pats D limited possessions and time you have to score.

    When you are limited by possessions and time this tends to make you have to score quickly, pass more and press more.

    When you have to score quickly you become one dimensional and alot of your options are also limited.  Think 2 minute drill except for you are running 8 or 9 ,if you prefer, of them due to time.  Also when the O is on the bench for 15-20 minutes real time, it's difficult to get in rythem. 

    Allowing a qb to score on 50% of their possessions, whether Fg's or Td's causes you to have to score on more than 50% of your possessions.  Throw in the limited time and limited possessions, you are pretty much scr#wed.

    So, in a nut shell, yes.  It could very well caused  turn overs because when you can take your time and not force things, you should be less prone to mistakes.

     
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    Talk about denial....Im a Pats fan but a realist. You Pats fans know that Brady a has 5 game PICK streak in the playoffs?

     
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    Re: Brady 10-0 in playoffs then 6-6 since

    I made a post about this earlier

    17 INTs in 12 games.

    Defense has definitely been a problem too.

    Those two playoff games against the chargers were poorly played by Brady. That being said, the 2006 game, his leading receiver was Reche Caldwell

    In that Denver game, that pick to Champ Bailey was critical.

    2007 Super Bowl, GMen got to him and his oline let him down. He also had an ankle issue. That being said, that was his record season and it was in a controlled environment. He did look like a QB that threw 50 TDs.

    2011 Super Bowl, He was absolutely brilliant at the end of the 2nd quarter and the beginning of the third. He was pretty ineffective the rest of the game.

    2011 AFCG, he played poorly, even he admit it.

    2009 was the worst playoff game I saw from him. That being said, the same could be said about everyone else on the team. Moss looked like he quit, and Welker was gone.

     

    A lot of people argue that Brady tries to hard to be perfect because the team around him isn't as complete as they were during the Championship seasons. And I agree with that, one player can't win you a Super Bowl. That being said, when it comes to Manning, Pats fans consider him an utter choke. His '09 loss was bad, yes, but the majority of his playoff losses post 2004 aren't much different than Brady's losses. He was one and done in '07, against a Chargers team that played the Pats close with their QB and RB both being pretty ineffective because of injuries. '05 He was one and done with a pretty good team, but they lost to the defending champs. Pats lost in '07 with a pretty good team to the defending champs.

     

    Pats overall have had a better team than the Colts in the past decade. SF had a better team than probably most teams in league history.

    With regards to Montana, one of the one and dones he was knocked out in right? His last one, he actually played a pretty good game. THat being said, he had 3 straight playoff losses (like Brady). He also had a 1-3 record against the Giants in the playoffs, slightyl better than Brady, but still not great. That being said, Montana's career passer rating is 7 points higher than Brady, which happened in an era in which passer ratings were generally lower.

     

    Nobody is perfect. Win-Loss record is the goal, but it shouldn't be what defines a QB. John Elway carrying some of those crappy Bronco's teams all the way to a Super Bowl is more impressive than Dilfer being carried by that Raven's defense.

    The QB can play well and lose, or play poorly and win. I'm not going to judge Brady's playoff career solely based on his record. That's almost like saying the other players didn't matter and every win and loss was soley on the QB. Looking at the numbers though, Brady has not been as sharp as he was earlier in his career, and that could be caused by factors outside of himself

     
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    We have a great QB.  There is nobody I would rather have.  That said, let's not pretend like he's played as well in the playoffs of late.  But as stated by someone above, this is a team sport.  I attribute many of his subpar games to the game plan; both ours and our opponents.  His performances have merely been a symptom of greater problems.  For example, no outside deep threat?  Just crowd the box.  Can't run too well?  Don't respect it.  Those weaknesses are going to be amplified in the playoffs.  Oh, and the Pats still haven't figured out how to play well when teams can generate any pressure without blitzing.  Maybe it's fair to ask if Brady could do a better job in those situations.  Is he elite when under pressure with no blitz?  We know he can tear up teams pressuring him using the blitz.

     
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    Re: Brady 10-0 in playoffs then 6-6 since

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    Talk about denial....Im a Pats fan but a realist. You Pats fans know that Brady a has 5 game PICK streak in the playoffs?

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    I know since 2007 Brady has a 2/1 TD/INT ratio in playoff games other than the Raven's fiasco in 2009. You know, the one where Welker was out and the Ravens shot to a 24 zip lead in the 1st quarter and we threw the gameplan out the window?

     

     

     
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    We have a great QB.  There is nobody I would rather have.  That said, let's not pretend like he's played as well in the playoffs of late.  But as stated by someone above, this is a team sport.  I attribute many of his subpar games to the game plan; both ours and our opponents.  His performances have merely been a symptom of greater problems.  For example, no outside deep threat?  Just crowd the box.  Can't run too well?  Don't respect it.  Those weaknesses are going to be amplified in the playoffs.  Oh, and the Pats still haven't figured out how to play well when teams can generate any pressure without blitzing.  Maybe it's fair to ask if Brady could do a better job in those situations.  Is he elite when under pressure with no blitz?  We know he can tear up teams pressuring him using the blitz.

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    Generally Brady's playoff performances have been "good" if not spectacular for the most part in recent years. The problem has been the lack of anybody else doing much to help and he just hasn't played well enough to carry the whole team on his back.

    One turnover from the D in the last 2 SBs when they had 8 in the 3 before doesn't help him much. Anemic running by our backs in both the SB losses didn't help much either.

    He's probably not going to win the Lombardi on his own. I don't think anybody ever has.

     
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    Brady needs one playoff win to pass the great Joe Montana? I am sure that fact has not escaped him.

     
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    So the Pats D caused Bradys 16 INTs in those 12 games?

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    pats D sucks when it counts

    brady left two SB's winning and went home losing (thanks again btw!)

    forget rankings and stats nonsense - just look at the field and wait, you'll see it too-take brady off this team and even in that crap division pats go 10-6 - tops

    amazing queenie and the seven dwarves refuse to see this

     

     
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    McGinnest, Law, Harrison all showed up in the playoffs. In a similar vein Talib, McCourty, Spikes Mayo and Jones have to play very well. Wilfork is a given. FGs over TDs is always nice.

     
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    amazing queenie and the seven dwarves refuse to see this

     

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    That might be your best ever Jints.

     
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    Montana was 4-3 in CCGs and 9-7 in divisional games. Fetus Head is 9-10 in the playoffs.

     

    Give Brady a defense like when he was 10-0 and that 6-6 might look a whole lot better.

     

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    Give Manning or Montana those defenses and they would have been 10-0, too. 

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    Did you even follow football in the 80's. Montana had a great defense, just was unheralded.

     
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