Re: Brandon Marshal could be had for a 2nd!!!!!!!!
posted at 3/23/2010 3:41 PM EDT
In Response to Re: Brandon Marshal could be had for a 2nd!!!!!!!!
In Response to Re: Brandon Marshal could be had for a 2nd!!!!!!!! : I think that you are missing a couple of things....you want an all star team and the only way that you can get that is to spend money (as you have stated), the problem with that is there is a CAP(though this season there isn't one, they will impliment one soon). Second, with a CAP, you can only spend so much on the big talent then find a good core group of second tier players with good character and decent talent. Marshall does not fit in this system....
Posted by m1021us
Except, we do have an 'elite guy' coming off the books in one Randy Moss... so what reason is there to believe Marshall cannot just slide into the salary spot occupied by Moss... and no, I don't think Moss is done, but I really see him as only having 3 years left in the tank, probably 2 at elite level if you look at the history or WRs... with Marshall, he isn't even in the prime years for most WRs... But won't both be asking essentially for the same contract? So who would you rather have? The 'elite' guy who knows your system, but has 3 years left... or the young elite guy who has more upside down the line, but has off-field issues.... To me, I say it is business and business means getting younger and winning... I think the long-term chances of that are better with Marshall, taking nothing away from what I think Moss can still do this year and next.
The point is, sure, Marshall likely means that you lose something someplace else. But the same is true for any 'elite' guy. If he's good enough, you can pay him that and you assume his presence makes up for lacking something someplace else. My point is, Marshall is a TOP 5 WR, possibly the BEST WR in the NFL, and certainly the BEST YOUNG WR not named Fitzgerald. That is, at his age versus talent, he's better than anyone else in the NFL at his postion. Find me anyone else not named Fitzgerald that is even that close who won't ask for a similar amount and who you wouldn't think was worth it... It is what it is. If this was Larry Fitzgerald, we wouldn't even be having this discussion.. It just woulnd't be for a 2nd rounder, either.
I'd much rather him on my roster as a weapon for the best player, Tom Brady, who really still is the 'current' and near future of this team, than foolishly let the team let a guy like Moss walk away and not be able to replace him, Welker being unknown, and our law firm of a RB situation take over and see how TB responds. I have more confidence in Belichick in dealing with a young defense than I do in Tom Brady and a makeshift 'everyone else without an elite WR' getting the job done on offense... esp., if Welker is gimpy, too. I sometime wonder how this offense even ran without Welker, but then again, it is more as a result that we had Troy Brown and guys like that who fit in before, too...
Again, you can talk about the 'nobodies' we had in the early part of the 2000s as if that is true, but the reality is that Givens/Patten/Brown/Branch, etc. were not just some group of no-talent fill-ins, either... and they all pretty much left for more money and were not well-replaced.