Re: Brday Sound FX !!
posted at 10/18/2013 12:27 PM EDT
In response to coolade2's comment:
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In response to coolade2's comment:
Wow... Z,..... You're quite wrong and it s kind of funny that you choose this play to hang your condescending full of yourself commentary Hat on. Bradys "oh jules" comment fits right into the pattern he has demonstrated all year . In the heat of competition his first kneejerk response is throwing his hands up in frustration when receiver is not reading his mind or reading the coverage in the same way. Blame the receiver. Wow ... on this throw?
Comical that you think this is all on Edelman when Brady chucks this deep ball into Double coverage. Maybe if it was thrown inside on a line incomplete anticipating and in cut.... But no, it was high and outside right into the waiting arms of DB. Apparently you think this DB was supposed to disappear...?
Curious that your lack of understanding goes this far and that you probably will not admit it. The fact that it was first down is what makes it worse since you know I know and Brady knows that to start a drive the ultimate objective on first down is to GET SOMETHING. Get started, even if its 5 yards, get some rythym. Throwing this deep ball was a mistake and Brady knew it. Hence the sarcastic self critical comment to himself ..."its over now".
You have nuts trying to talk down to posters as if you have some deeper understanding of the game of football. Its a joke in this situation. Im not saying youre ignorant but maybe just a bit myopic at times looking through your proverbial coke bottle glasses and missing a blatant point that is slapping you in the face.
Sorry to be the one who is taking the adversarial position but can't resist when you post things like "Do you understand how passing works?" .... At least i have the understanding of playing the QB position in D1 HS central Massachusetts. Ive thrown footballs.... had TDs, incompletions, INTs, sacks, concussion, sprained ankle, broken finger, sprained shoulder, helmet buried in my back after handing off , ankle twisted when at the bottom of a pile... etc, etc. Not saying its the NFL but maybe you do know what I am saying.
Wow. That's a lot of trash talk ... and a little bit of chest pounding man ... but really you've just written four large paragraphs with zero substance.
Brady didn't say "it's over" the commentator did ... listen to the game replay on audio. But again ... what does that have to do with the play? Your insistence otherwise really just demonstrates that you are using it as a crutch to make up for the fact that you have nothing to say about the pass except to blame on Brady because ... welll Brady stinks (quote you).
The play could have been his fault or Edelman's ... what Brady says about the state of the game afterward doesn't prove anything. Unless, of course, he did what Edelman did and said something about how he threw the wrong route. He doesn't .... because he didn't.
Second, again ... sorry you don't understand how passing works. Really. I am. But that's how it works. If Edelman cuts his route off, then he is underneath the coverage and it's a rececption or an incomplete pass.
The DB you reference was over the top of Edelman he was running with him ... not "waiting there" as you are insisting ... below is visual proof .... he came back for the ball while he was running with Edelman .... Edelman should have been the person to come back.
Edelman is supposed to break off his route. NE runs this play to its WRs every single week, sometimes 3-4 times a week. It doesn't matter if it's double coverage or triple coverage, the concept is that you cut your route off underneath the coverage.
Then INTs happen this way when the WR runs the wrong route.
This is why Edelman apologized and stated essentially what I am saying here: he OVERRAN his route. You can disagree ... but Edelman knows what he was supposed to be doing, and frankly it is pretty obvious.
Missing ... and a question I'd love you to answer ... Why is it that Edelman is saying he ran the wrong route if you are saying that Brady threw the wrong route? Why is Brady saying Edelman ran the wrong route? What gives? Do you know what Brady and Edelman are supposed to be doing better than they do?
Again, no chest pounding or hollow insults that don't help your case. Try and limit it to a technical response. See what you can come up with.
You are incorrect. I'm sorry. I just don't know what else to say.
Just looking at the pics and not the video, who was the receiver open underneath?
I wonder where and when Edelman was supposed to cut off his route.
That may have put him and the other receiver in the same general area. Did they both run the wrong route?
Just a thought by looking at the stills.
Looks like Dobson. But this discussion is getting a little off track. Because the play unfolds and and the ball goes into the air and defenders read and react. So if Brady threw to Dobson the Safety might have read it and moved to cover him. Hard tellin.
I get your point though since Dobson and Edelman are kind of close together downfield which is odd and leads to your question of somebody or both being in the wrong place.
It just seems to me that if Eds was to supposed to cut off his route that would have put him and Dobson even closer.
Not trying to put the blame on any particular player because I really don't know who was supposed to do what but it looked to me atleast like Dobson was pretty open with Edelman taking the safety deep.