Breakdown of Patriots-Steelers Game, Key Plays w/ Pics - Anonymis

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    Breakdown of Patriots-Steelers Game, Key Plays w/ Pics - Anonymis

    A look at Brady's performance, timing w/ receivers

    http://patspub.patsfans.com/2013/11/05/all-22-highlights-patriotsbradys-timing-coming-together/#.UnorjPk3s7w

    Let's hope they heal up - and become more consistent offensively.  We need Talib healthy at end of season and during playoffs. Defense, imo, has gone backwards a little during Talib's absence.

     
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    Yea its not good when your defense is reliant on one player to make it very good and without him it has the potential to be very bad. Without him, we are a bend but dont break and hope for turnovers which we ARE good at so thats a positive.

    Im worried about Talib. At this stage, I would hold him out as long as possible just to insure I have him for a whole playoff game. That Ravens game was a real kick in the N*ts when Talib went out early. It all went downhill from there. If he cant make it back this year and play extensively, I  would think really hard about letting him walk. Im just wondering why he hasnt gotten surgery yet for it. Seems like a long time thing he has had.

     
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    "Health/Timing Keys: With the return to health for both Danny Amendola and more importantly Rob Gronkowski, the timing, so important in the Patriots passing offense was on full display Sunday, giving a glimpse of how potent this unit can be when clicking on all cylinders.

    The timing, play-calling and route running was much sharper on Sunday. But Brady more than everyone was focused, making correct decisions and used his head to beat the Steelers."

     

    I guess Im not the only one noticing a marked change....  QB executed the position brilliantly.

     

    In other words,  What if Brady overthrew Amendola like in previous weeks...?  Or what if during Jets game in OT he dropped in that 3rd down throw to Edelman instead of chucking it out of bounds.  There is ALWAYS room for better QB performance that will MAKE EVERY DIFFERENCE in the outcome of a play.

    LIke in golf if you are a great putter,  you can change the outcome of your score.  And turn 3 mediocre shots into a par ,  then shoot 72.

    QB is the difference maker in football, Simple. 

     
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    Yea its not good when your defense is reliant on one player to make it very good and without him it has the potential to be very bad. Without him, we are a bend but dont break and hope for turnovers which we ARE good at so thats a positive.

    Im worried about Talib. At this stage, I would hold him out as long as possible just to insure I have him for a whole playoff game. That Ravens game was a real kick in the N*ts when Talib went out early. It all went downhill from there. If he cant make it back this year and play extensively, I  would think really hard about letting him walk. Im just wondering why he hasnt gotten surgery yet for it. Seems like a long time thing he has had.

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    Not an over reliance, just having Talib affords us a chance to do more complex schemes on defense. Without him, the Pats go with a Cover-2 mostly, part of the reason the run defense struggles.

     
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    "At the snap, Brady does a nice play-action fake to Ridley freezing both the Mike and Polamalu just long enough for Gronkowski to shake free of Jones.

     

    With the mismatch of Jones on Gronkowski, Brady hits Gronkowski with the pass just prior to Polamalu being able to come over and give support. He tried to jar the ball loose and was flagged 15 yards for leading with his helmet.

     

    Gronk TD Steelers 2

     

    This play was also timed perfectly, something that the Patriots offense has been missing thus far this season, as well as having the running game being a viable option, with Ridley giving the Patriots the tough yardage between the tackles all game.

    This was a great job of play-calling by Josh McDaniels and execution from Brady"

     


    Once again the writer is pointing out the perfect execution of the QB postion.  Both the excellent faking  and timing.  AS IN Quickness and better footwork.  THere it is .  Brady was strikingly better at EVERYTHING including putting the ball right in Gronks hands.

     

     
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    In response to coolade2's comment:
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    "Health/Timing Keys: With the return to health for both Danny Amendola and more importantly Rob Gronkowski, the timing, so important in the Patriots passing offense was on full display Sunday, giving a glimpse of how potent this unit can be when clicking on all cylinders.

    The timing, play-calling and route running was much sharper on Sunday. But Brady more than everyone was focused, making correct decisions and used his head to beat the Steelers."

     

    I guess Im not the only one noticing a marked change....  QB executed the position brilliantly.

     

    In other words,  What if Brady overthrew Amendola like in previous weeks...?  Or what if during Jets game in OT he dropped in that 3rd down throw to Edelman instead of chucking it out of bounds.  There is ALWAYS room for better QB performance that will MAKE EVERY DIFFERENCE in the outcome of a play.

    LIke in golf if you are a great putter,  you can change the outcome of your score.  And turn 3 mediocre shots into a par ,  then shoot 72.

    QB is the difference maker in football, Simple. 

    [/QUOTE]


    I am very sorry this is so hard for you to understand.

    This is not golf where what is accomplished is how well one person performs.

    It is one guy throwing to a moving target where timing is important and every single player has to work in unison in order for there to be success.  There is also a DEFENSE, trying to disrupt that timing.l

    What is different in this game is the moving targets changed.

    There are now 3 vets and 1 rookie, as apposed to 3 rookies and 1 vet.

    QBR depends on players making catches and scoring.  Picks are more often than not, receiver errors.  Drops are more often than not, receiver errors, incompletions too.

    Sure the QB matters but QB's always make bad throws, occasionally, throw the ball away because no one is open, occasionally. 

    When you have 3 receivers catching 40% of their passes and others catching 70%, it is not likely that Tom just throws poorly to the bottom receivers. and great to the Vets.  It's that the vets are better,  DUH!  Brady is more focused because he can now just worry about the D and not have to wonder where his receivers are.  He already knows where they are, because they know where they are or where they are supposed to be.

    Ugh.  Tom did not lose his timing overnight.  Timing involves everyone

              Tom DID lose his receivers, overnight.  VERY SCARY!!!

               Tom also went from 3 rookies and 1 vet to 3 vets and 1 rookie.

                3 vets who understand are much better than 3 rookies who do not.

    No Brainer

     

     
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        "The Steelers were in a one-deep safety look with Troy Polamalu deep and fellow safety Ryan Clark up close to the line covering TE Michael Hoomanawanui.

    Amendola TD Pitt1

     

    At the snap, both Amendola and Dobson went deep straight down the left side of the field. Edelman ran a Sluggo route and had Ike Taylor in coverage.

     

    Here Brady stared down Edelman, drawing Polamalu to drift over to the right. Brady pump faked to Edelman and Polamalu bit hard on the fake. Ridley drifted out of the backfield and three defenders closed on him underneath.

     

    This left cornerback William Gay in an unwinnable position, playing between both Amendola and Dobson, he tried to slide over but Amendola, unblocked at the line was running free down the seam. Brady then turned and fired an easy touchdown pass as Polamalu, reacting too late was unable to close the distance in time.

     

    Amendola TD Pitt2

    It was a fantastic play by Brady, and the timing of it to work correctly has to be pin-point. Otherwise Polamalu can react in time and influence the play"....

    More discussion of the demands of the QB position , which requires ball handling head faking, pump faking , seeing the field and getting the ball out on time.  Brady  obviously had prepared himself and worked hard on these skills and it showed on Sunday.  Striking improvement ... including accuracy since with all other viariables aside,  Accuracy is simply being in a good throwing position and rythym... and delivering the ball in a catchable location to the receiver.

     

     

     
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    In response to pezz4pats' comment:
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    In response to coolade2's comment:
    [QUOTE]

    "Health/Timing Keys: With the return to health for both Danny Amendola and more importantly Rob Gronkowski, the timing, so important in the Patriots passing offense was on full display Sunday, giving a glimpse of how potent this unit can be when clicking on all cylinders.

    The timing, play-calling and route running was much sharper on Sunday. But Brady more than everyone was focused, making correct decisions and used his head to beat the Steelers."

     

    I guess Im not the only one noticing a marked change....  QB executed the position brilliantly.

     

    In other words,  What if Brady overthrew Amendola like in previous weeks...?  Or what if during Jets game in OT he dropped in that 3rd down throw to Edelman instead of chucking it out of bounds.  There is ALWAYS room for better QB performance that will MAKE EVERY DIFFERENCE in the outcome of a play.

    LIke in golf if you are a great putter,  you can change the outcome of your score.  And turn 3 mediocre shots into a par ,  then shoot 72.

    QB is the difference maker in football, Simple. 

    [/QUOTE]


    I am very sorry this is so hard for you to understand.

    This is not golf where what is accomplished is how well one person performs.

    It is one guy throwing to a moving target where timing is important and every single player has to work in unison in order for there to be success.  There is also a DEFENSE, trying to disrupt that timing.l

    What is different in this game is the moving targets changed.

    There are now 3 vets and 1 rookie, as apposed to 3 rookies and 1 vet.

    QBR depends on players making catches and scoring.  Picks are more often than not, receiver errors.  Drops are more often than not, receiver errors, incompletions too.

    Sure the QB matters but QB's always make bad throws, occasionally, throw the ball away because no one is open, occasionally. 

    When you have 3 receivers catching 40% of their passes and others catching 70%, it is not likely that Tom just throws poorly to the bottom receivers. and great to the Vets.  It's that the vets are better,  DUH!  Brady is more focused because he can now just worry about the D and not have to wonder where his receivers are.  He already knows where they are, because they know where they are or where they are supposed to be.

    Ugh.  Tom did not lose his timing overnight.  Timing involves everyone

              Tom DID lose his receivers, overnight.  VERY SCARY!!!

               Tom also went from 3 rookies and 1 vet to 3 vets and 1 rookie.

                3 vets who understand are much better than 3 rookies who do not.

    No Brainer

     

    [/QUOTE]

    Give it a rest, will ya? He was off before this game, it's not a shot at his greatness to admit it. Tom Brady is human, he's not going to be perfect every game. He played like Brady on Sunday, no need to keep denying facts.

     
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    In response to 49Patriots' comment:
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    In response to pezz4pats' comment:
    [QUOTE]

    In response to coolade2's comment:
    [QUOTE]

    "Health/Timing Keys: With the return to health for both Danny Amendola and more importantly Rob Gronkowski, the timing, so important in the Patriots passing offense was on full display Sunday, giving a glimpse of how potent this unit can be when clicking on all cylinders.

    The timing, play-calling and route running was much sharper on Sunday. But Brady more than everyone was focused, making correct decisions and used his head to beat the Steelers."

     

    I guess Im not the only one noticing a marked change....  QB executed the position brilliantly.

     

    In other words,  What if Brady overthrew Amendola like in previous weeks...?  Or what if during Jets game in OT he dropped in that 3rd down throw to Edelman instead of chucking it out of bounds.  There is ALWAYS room for better QB performance that will MAKE EVERY DIFFERENCE in the outcome of a play.

    LIke in golf if you are a great putter,  you can change the outcome of your score.  And turn 3 mediocre shots into a par ,  then shoot 72.

    QB is the difference maker in football, Simple. 

    [/QUOTE]


    I am very sorry this is so hard for you to understand.

    This is not golf where what is accomplished is how well one person performs.

    It is one guy throwing to a moving target where timing is important and every single player has to work in unison in order for there to be success.  There is also a DEFENSE, trying to disrupt that timing.l

    What is different in this game is the moving targets changed.

    There are now 3 vets and 1 rookie, as apposed to 3 rookies and 1 vet.

    QBR depends on players making catches and scoring.  Picks are more often than not, receiver errors.  Drops are more often than not, receiver errors, incompletions too.

    Sure the QB matters but QB's always make bad throws, occasionally, throw the ball away because no one is open, occasionally. 

    When you have 3 receivers catching 40% of their passes and others catching 70%, it is not likely that Tom just throws poorly to the bottom receivers. and great to the Vets.  It's that the vets are better,  DUH!  Brady is more focused because he can now just worry about the D and not have to wonder where his receivers are.  He already knows where they are, because they know where they are or where they are supposed to be.

    Ugh.  Tom did not lose his timing overnight.  Timing involves everyone

              Tom DID lose his receivers, overnight.  VERY SCARY!!!

               Tom also went from 3 rookies and 1 vet to 3 vets and 1 rookie.

                3 vets who understand are much better than 3 rookies who do not.

    No Brainer

     

    [/QUOTE]

    Give it a rest, will ya? He was off before this game, it's not a shot at his greatness to admit it. Tom Brady is human, he's not going to be perfect every game. He played like Brady on Sunday, no need to keep denying facts.

    [/QUOTE]


    Well maybe you haters should give it a rest, Huh?

    No one ever said he was perfect.  No one ever said there weren't times when he was off.

     

    Does that play work if he's starring off Gronk and  instead throws to The stooges?

    Maybe but the odds are not good, and that's what he has been dealing with up to this point.

    But you'd have to be either a total idiot or troll to see the difference is the personnel.

    The catch rate is better when you have receivers that can catch consistently.  Gronk 9/10.

    The catch rate is improved when they run the correct routes.

    The catch rate improves when they are not dropping passes at alarming rates.

     

    The catches are going to improve when you play with the guys you practice with.

    Try going into a game where your #3 becomes your #1 and your #4 becomes your #2 and your # 5 becomes your #3.......ALL at once.  UGH

    The QB is going to improve when he doesn't have to worry about ALL OF THE ABOVE!

    NO BRAINER!

    Did you see the other day on CBS where they compared TB to a conductor of an orchestra?

    He sets the tone, he tells everybody how long to hold and when to enter.

    Now, I'm no expert on orchestras but there is one thing I do know.   The conductor can't play the instruments for them.

    Some trolls expect him to, and that's just plain dumb. 

     
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    In response to 49Patriots' comment:
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    In response to pezz4pats' comment:
    [QUOTE]

    In response to coolade2's comment:
    [QUOTE]

    "Health/Timing Keys: With the return to health for both Danny Amendola and more importantly Rob Gronkowski, the timing, so important in the Patriots passing offense was on full display Sunday, giving a glimpse of how potent this unit can be when clicking on all cylinders.

    The timing, play-calling and route running was much sharper on Sunday. But Brady more than everyone was focused, making correct decisions and used his head to beat the Steelers."

     

    I guess Im not the only one noticing a marked change....  QB executed the position brilliantly.

     

    In other words,  What if Brady overthrew Amendola like in previous weeks...?  Or what if during Jets game in OT he dropped in that 3rd down throw to Edelman instead of chucking it out of bounds.  There is ALWAYS room for better QB performance that will MAKE EVERY DIFFERENCE in the outcome of a play.

    LIke in golf if you are a great putter,  you can change the outcome of your score.  And turn 3 mediocre shots into a par ,  then shoot 72.

    QB is the difference maker in football, Simple. 

    [/QUOTE]


    I am very sorry this is so hard for you to understand.

    This is not golf where what is accomplished is how well one person performs.

    It is one guy throwing to a moving target where timing is important and every single player has to work in unison in order for there to be success.  There is also a DEFENSE, trying to disrupt that timing.l

    What is different in this game is the moving targets changed.

    There are now 3 vets and 1 rookie, as apposed to 3 rookies and 1 vet.

    QBR depends on players making catches and scoring.  Picks are more often than not, receiver errors.  Drops are more often than not, receiver errors, incompletions too.

    Sure the QB matters but QB's always make bad throws, occasionally, throw the ball away because no one is open, occasionally. 

    When you have 3 receivers catching 40% of their passes and others catching 70%, it is not likely that Tom just throws poorly to the bottom receivers. and great to the Vets.  It's that the vets are better,  DUH!  Brady is more focused because he can now just worry about the D and not have to wonder where his receivers are.  He already knows where they are, because they know where they are or where they are supposed to be.

    Ugh.  Tom did not lose his timing overnight.  Timing involves everyone

              Tom DID lose his receivers, overnight.  VERY SCARY!!!

               Tom also went from 3 rookies and 1 vet to 3 vets and 1 rookie.

                3 vets who understand are much better than 3 rookies who do not.

    No Brainer

     

    [/QUOTE]

    Give it a rest, will ya? He was off before this game, it's not a shot at his greatness to admit it. Tom Brady is human, he's not going to be perfect every game. He played like Brady on Sunday, no need to keep denying facts.

    [/QUOTE]

    Don't bother, it's a lost cause with him.

     
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    Don't bother, it's a lost cause with him.

     

    Ha! you are correct.

    But the lost cause is a result of the cause being lost to some.

    Some of you actually think that TB woke up one day and his timing and mechanics, magically reappeared, and that the tooth fairy really did leave that dollar under your pillow.  UGH

     
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    Don't bother, it's a lost cause with him.

     

    Ha! you are correct.

    But the lost cause is a result of the cause being lost to some.

    Some of you actually think that TB woke up one day and his timing and mechanics, magically reappeared, and that the tooth fairy really did leave that dollar under your pillow.  UGH

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    Just so many dense fools here who don't know the game. Their spin is ludicrous at best.

    Brady has to deal with his 3 top receivers having a grand total of 11 prior NFL starts between them for most of the first half of the season.

    But in their brilliant analysis; the HOFer was the problem.

    It's just gotten to the point where it's tedious dealing with the abject stupidity over and over and over. If they ever learned a thing it might not seem such a worthless waste of time proving they are wrong. But they don't.

     
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    In response to pezz4pats' comment:
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    Don't bother, it's a lost cause with him.

     

    Ha! you are correct.

    But the lost cause is a result of the cause being lost to some.

    Some of you actually think that TB woke up one day and his timing and mechanics, magically reappeared, and that the tooth fairy really did leave that dollar under your pillow.  UGH

    [/QUOTE]


    Just so many dense fools here who don't know the game. Their spin is ludicrous at best.

    Brady has to deal with his 3 top receivers having a grand total of 11 prior NFL starts between them for most of the first half of the season.

    But in their brilliant analysis; the HOFer was the problem.

    It's just gotten to the point where it's tedious dealing with the abject stupidity over and over and over. If they ever learned a thing it might not seem such a worthless waste of time proving they are wrong. But they don't.

    [/QUOTE]


    Yes, very tedious, especially when you are trying to "dumb it down" as much as possible.

    IE:

    3 rookies on the field at once + one vet ='s confusion, hesitation, timing issues, rushed and inaccurate throws ='s bad production

    3 established vets + one rookie, at once ( no or little issues) ='s good production

    Can't get more simple than that.

    Wonder why BB doesn't just sit the Vets and go with the rookies, if it's TB's fault?  Why isn't he starting Mallett and the rookies, since TB is the Problem?  Inquiring minds want to know.

    If TB suddenly woke from his coma, and the magic reappeared, why does it matter who is out there?  He should be able to throw to high schoolers, right?

    DOH!

    Whatever.....

     
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    "At the snap, Brady does a nice play-action fake to Ridley freezing both the Mike and Polamalu just long enough for Gronkowski to shake free of Jones.

     

    With the mismatch of Jones on Gronkowski, Brady hits Gronkowski with the pass just prior to Polamalu being able to come over and give support. He tried to jar the ball loose and was flagged 15 yards for leading with his helmet.

     

    Gronk TD Steelers 2

     

    This play was also timed perfectly, something that the Patriots offense has been missing thus far this season, as well as having the running game being a viable option, with Ridley giving the Patriots the tough yardage between the tackles all game.

    This was a great job of play-calling by Josh McDaniels and execution from Brady"

     


    Once again the writer is pointing out the perfect execution of the QB postion.  Both the excellent faking  and timing.  AS IN Quickness and better footwork.  THere it is .  Brady was strikingly better at EVERYTHING including putting the ball right in Gronks hands.

     

    [/QUOTE]


    Wow ...  continuing to read shrill posts that claim that Great Receivers are necessary to make a Great QB look good.  Clearly Brady looked great on Sunday .  But its only because the receivers were better.   ...lofl....hmmm...

    Or...  Great QB cannot be great unless receivers are great.   Huh.....?   I thought great QBs made good receivers better.   Not the other way around.  So  a great QB is just average (70 passer rating) with average receivers...?    Sounds weird.   Brady is average...?

    Confusing and ironic.   Since the whiney commentary stems from a deep devotion and defense of Tom Brady's greatness where the above deduction of logic shows their argument calling Brady an AVERAGE QUARTERBACK.

    This just gets better and better... lol.     Stay tuned ...lol.

     

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