Re: Can we have a civil debate to end all this bickering in ever thread here!
posted at 8/15/2012 5:42 PM EDT
In Response to Re: Can we have a civil debate to end all this bickering in ever thread here!
[QUOTE]This is fair, csylvia . . . it's a team game and there were lots of reasons why we lost the game. It doesn't all reduce to one thing. I think the defense was a liability all season because it couldn't reliably make stops and was prone to giving up big plays at inopportune times. This held in the Super Bowl. The offense also lacks diversity (whether because of play calling or talent . . . or both), the O-line didn't execute well (both Mankins and Vollmer were less than 100% as well), and an offense that already lacks diverse receivers had one of its key guys (Gronk) hurt badly enough to be ineffective. Brady also made one truly dumb play (the heave to Gronk) and was mixed in his effectiveness. YOu also have to give the Giants a lot of credit for what they did on both offense and defense. Ultimately, in my opinion, the Pats were not really a championship team last year. Midseason, I seriously questioned whether they'd make the playoffs, and once they made them, I was surprised they went as far as they did. When Gronk got hurt against the Ravens, I thought the season was over because the offense was so anemic without him and the defense so unreliable. As a season ticket holder, I was at that Ravens game and really thought they were going to lose it in the fourth quarter (they should have lost it--they just got lucky with the missed field goal). My opinion is the Super Bowl last year was pure gravy . . . and rather than complaining about it, we should all just sit in amazement that BB was able to get this flawed team so far. That's my opinion. Over the offseason, we've seen notable improvements in both offensive and defensive talent. Combine those personnel improvements with BB's brilliant coaching and I think this year we may really have a championship team (at least I'm hoping). But last year . . . no . . . that team wasn't that great and the fact that it almost won the Lombardi is really a testament to the coaches. Maybe that's where I disagree a bit . . . I don't think the coaches lost the Super Bowl. I think the players did. Maybe the game could have been called a bit better, but honestly, I think the real problem was the lack of a truly dominant defense and an offense that was not diverse to begin with and was greatly crippled by O-line injuries and, especially, Gronk's injured ankle.
Posted by prolate0spheroid[/QUOTE]
I'm with you as far as being surprised by that team even making it to the Superbowl.
The team, especially the defense was clearly flawed wether it was lack of talent, injuries, inexperience or both. BB did a tremendous job.
With Gronk injured they didn't have enough playmakers on offense there were too many mistakes such as dropped passes, the int and the safety to start things off. I also agree that the safety was caused by poor play calling on the part of Bill O'brien.
One other thing, how many times do you see a team cause three fumbles and not be able to come away with any?