CB Free Agents

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    CB Free Agents

     

    Aqib Talib
    Brent Grimes
    Sean Smith
    Chris Houston
    Cary Williams
    Derek Cox
    Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie
    E.J. Biggers
    Mike Jenkins
    Bradley Fletcher
    Keenan Lewis
    Sheldon Brown
    Quentin Jammer
    Brice McCain
    Leodis McKelvin
    Terence Newman
    Kyle Arrington
    Tracy Porter
    Antoine Cason
    Rashean Mathis
    Jacob Lacey
    Pacman Jones
    Jerraud Powers
    Joselio Hanson
    Darius Butler
    Captain Munnerlyn
    Stanford Routt
    Marcus Trufant
    Leigh Bodden
    Chris Owens
    Shawntae Spencer
    Kelvin Hayden
    William Middleton
    Pat Lee
    Cedric Griffin
    Greg Toler
    D.J. Moore
    Michael Adams
    Drayton Florence
    Ryan Mouton
    Zackary Bowman
    Michael Coe
    Alan Ball
    Will Allen
    Drew Coleman
    Alphonso Smith
    Chris Carr
    Chris Johnson

     

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    Anyone names jumping out at ya off this list?  Of course Talib, which I do hope he comes back but man, his health concerns worry me.  He does this team no good off the field hurt.  What about Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie? 

     

     
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    let's sign aqib talib, brent grimes, dominique rodgers-cromartie, sebastian vollmer, reggie bush, mike wallace, wes welker, osi, michael johnson, ed reed, dashon goldson, henry melton, and jairus byrd. 




    Don't forget Revis.

     
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    yes and trade 2 1st round picks for revis and give him $60 mill guarenteed




    It's not that bad... he only wants $50 mill guranteed.

     
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    mario williams got $50 mill guarenteed.. revis wants more than 50



    Talib and Jammer would be nice.

     
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    Grab Grimes and Talib and any other CB over 6' tall. Damn midgets can't cover the bigger receivers!

     
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    This list tells me Talib is going to cost $5-7m per if not for the off the field issues. Will some one give it to him? If that's the tab, I don't think the Pats pay that much for him. 

    Whats plan B?

     
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    I'll take talib at discount due to injury history.  Then try out 20 guys and take the best according to health, SPEED, and aggression.

     
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    what are the options? Use pick 29 on a cb like Rhodes? Wait until rounds 2 or 3?  This draft is cb rich....hope Ras can stay healthy and develop? I wouldnt put any eggs in that bucket. 

    the answer is a veteran presence ..Talib has experience in our system and did quite well. If it takes 5m per year, we need to pay it. Defense is a lot better with him. 

    Plan a...sign Talib ...need a vet period..pay the kid and move on

    also .draft a cb in 1 of the first 3 rounds...insurance against Talib getting hurt, Ras not stepping up...

     

     
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    Guys! Guys! Don't forget we are getting Rasi Dowling back! We are ALLLLLLLLL set! Boom!

    And of course we can always resign Chung! Annnnnd Arrington!

     
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    Well Talib seemingly satified 2 of the concerns that were raised when they made the trade; could he help on D and would he stay out of trouble?

    So it comes down to health--if they feel its a minor issue you gotta figure they'll try to resign him otherwise why make the trade

     
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    Well Talib seemingly satified 2 of the concerns that were raised when they made the trade; could he help on D and would he stay out of trouble?

    So it comes down to health--if they feel its a minor issue you gotta figure they'll try to resign him otherwise why make the trade



    If someone else offers him $9 mil/year with $20 mil guaranteed or some such thing then he will be gone.  Doesn't matter how well he played or that he kept his nose clean.

     
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    Well Talib seemingly satified 2 of the concerns that were raised when they made the trade; could he help on D and would he stay out of trouble?

    So it comes down to health--if they feel its a minor issue you gotta figure they'll try to resign him otherwise why make the trade

     



    If someone else offers him $9 mil/year with $20 mil guaranteed or some such thing then he will be gone.  Doesn't matter how well he played or that he kept his nose clean.

     



    Agree, I'm just figuring that they must of considered him as a possible long term possiblilty when they made they trade--as opposed to trading for an older vet that could put them over the top for a year---so I'd be surprized if they just let him walk without at least trying to work out a deal

     
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    Well Talib seemingly satified 2 of the concerns that were raised when they made the trade; could he help on D and would he stay out of trouble?

    So it comes down to health--if they feel its a minor issue you gotta figure they'll try to resign him otherwise why make the trade

     



    If someone else offers him $9 mil/year with $20 mil guaranteed or some such thing then he will be gone.  Doesn't matter how well he played or that he kept his nose clean.

     

     



    Agree, I'm just figuring that they must of considered him as a possible long term possiblilty when they made they trade--as opposed to trading for an older vet that could put them over the top for a year---so I'd be surprized if they just let him walk without at least trying to work out a deal

     



    Yes, I think they'll try. But it would be surprising if he didn't at least listen to other teams before signing, and it only takes one. Lots of teams need secondary help.   

     
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    I really like Brent Grimes but I would think that he would command quite a salary on the open market.  He is coming off of a season ending surgery so that could lower his value somewhat.  I'm sure I'll be proven wrong, but I have trouble seeing Talib getting a huge payday.  He has serious character red flags, so much so that he was sent packing by his previous team for a fourth round pick even though he arguably has first round talent.  His offseason was just the latest in a series of off field incidents in which he may or may not have tried to fire a gun at his sister's boyfriend (and if he didn't his mother did).  After that he failed a drug test for PED's (the typical Adderall defense) and had to serve a four game suspension.  He comes to the Patriots where he does help to shore up a very leaky pass defense by covering the best receiver on the other team (excelling in covering big physical receivers who may have lost a step) and proceeds to get hurt.  And in the biggest game of the season he shows why the Pats traded for him in the first two series (by covering an aging Anquan Boldin) and then gets hurt again.  To me, there are a ton of red flags with Talib that would allow me to let someone else pay him big money.

    I think a problem that the Patriots have is that top FA cornerbacks get paid a lot of money.  Sean Smith is an above average CB, but you will probably have to pay him like a playmaking, shutdown corner (which he is not) to get his services.  Talib showed what this defense could look like with a very good CB, it's just a matter of how much the Pats are willing to overspend at that position.

     
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    I'm not one to speculate but I would sign 2 CBs , that's what the Pats need.  Proof was when Talib went down, it not only changed Ravens passing game but our D fell appart , they just laid and took the oncoming offense.  If the Ravens in the 1st half would have started throwing the ball more the final would have been worse than the end result. 

    All this to say it took only 1 injury , 1 player to change this game. That's weak.

     

     
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    Re: CB Free Agents

    In response to sportsbozo1's comment:

    Grab Grimes and Talib and any other CB over 6' tall. Damn midgets can't cover the bigger receivers!




    I agree we need bigger CBs, and bigger WRs.

    I'm tired of Hobbitville

     

     
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    Say.....now that we are on the CFL bandwagon....any good CBs up north?

     
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    In response to sportsbozo1's comment:

    Grab Grimes and Talib and any other CB over 6' tall. Damn midgets can't cover the bigger receivers!




    I hear ya, they are terribly over matched when it comes to the taller receivers.  Been saying this for 2 years now!!  That's why I was hoping Rasi would have worked out.

     

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