Colts Caught Cheating (In-Game)

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    Colts Caught Cheating (In-Game)

    With no call, I might add.

    This explains why Brady was angered at the refs last night.

    The defensive line… they can’t simulate a snap count at the end of the game when you’re kneeling on the ball,” Brady told WEEI. “The only thing that could have stopped us was an offensive penalty to stop the clock. So, I’m in the middle of my snap count and a defensive tackle is going ‘Hut! Hut!’ to try to get us to jump offsides. To me, the only thing that the ref should be listening for is that.”

    This is illegal:

    Tom Brady said on WEEI that his end-of-game screaming was because Colts' defensive players were yelling 'Hut!' trying to draw Pats offsides 56 minutes ago reply

     - S. Manza-Young (Twitter)
     
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     I'll play troll....

    They probably learned that from the Pats who cheat every second of every day.

    It's only illegal when the team that does it isn't named the Colts.
     
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    [QUOTE]I'm making that onanistic gesture that guys use to indicate when they consider something to be of no importance.  Some idiot back-up DT yelling hut after the game was decided does not equal cheating.  I'm happy that you found one last thing to whine about, though.  (Who am I kidding?  You have an unlimited supply of things to whine about!)
    Posted by JulesWinfield[/QUOTE]

    Are you for real?  "Game was decided"?  "Back-up DT"?  You must be an uber-homer to equivocate such outright, undeniable cheating.  Interrupting the snap count is overt cheating - period.  But I have yet to hear of a team's D players actually yelling "Hut!". Total bush league, courtesy of the "holier-than-thou" team that brought us 100-degree locker rooms for the opposing teams, piped crowd noise and "signature service" officiating.
     
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    This thread is a half-joke so you can see how dumb trolls like yourself sound. 

    Maybe if Indy didn't act all high and mighty all the time, this wouldbn't be as funny.

    Regardless, it's bushleague to do that Indy did.  Total bushleague. ARod slap at Arroyo's glove level of bushleague.



     
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    Missed call ? 3rd and 4 / 4th QTR with7:22 left to go. Clearly beyond the 5 yrd bump zone.
     
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    [QUOTE]Missed call ? 3rd and 4 / 4th QTR with7:22 left to go. Clearly beyond the 5 yrd bump zone.
    Posted by ohyes[/QUOTE]

    Yeah. I kind of want that one back. It was basically an arm bar, and I'm not sure how the refs missed that one. If Branch has both hands to make that catch, the game isn't nearly as dramatic at the end, as NE could have just run three more minutes on the clock or perhaps gotten another first and just iced the game there.

    Either way, NE wouldn't have had to wait on Manning serving up his third pick of the game to put it away.

    Oh well, the Pats won anyhow. But it would have been better on my cardiovascular health if they had thrown the flag there.
     
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    That was such a flagrant PI that didn't get called -- and on a critical 3rd down that would have kept the drive alive and given us a new set of downs to run off a couple of more minutes -- that I wanted to throw a brick at the refs (but I can't throw one from 1,300 miles away).

    How could they possibly have missed that call?
     
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    [QUOTE]That was such a flagrant PI that didn't get called -- and on a critical 3rd down that would have kept the drive alive and given us a new set of downs to run off a couple of more minutes -- that I wanted to throw a brick at the refs (but I can't throw one from 1,300 miles away). How could they possibly have missed that call?
    Posted by sheldong[/QUOTE]

    Put a horseshoe on Branch's helmut and they don't.  Just sayin.
     
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    In Response to Re: Colts Caught Cheating (In-Game):
    [QUOTE]That was such a flagrant PI that didn't get called -- and on a critical 3rd down that would have kept the drive alive and given us a new set of downs to run off a couple of more minutes -- that I wanted to throw a brick at the refs (but I can't throw one from 1,300 miles away). How could they possibly have missed that call?
    Posted by sheldong[/QUOTE]

    It is called  Polian syndrome. I heard Northwestern Univerity was going to do a study on it as it is one of the most serious conditions afflicting NFL Officials. Its effects even worse than those experienced by victims of concussions. Symptoms include temporary blindess (see non-call on Branches non-catch), dimentia (see Hobbs' "facegarding" penalty)  and complete loss of motor control when reaching for a piece of yellow fabric when an offensive lineman tackles a defender who is about to touch anybody dressed in blue and white and wears the number 18.
     
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    It was flagrant and Tom Brady also noted that he saw illegal contact on the play also.  Funny how calls near the end of big games ALWAYS favor Indy!  The officials should have to view this pic and do some splainin' about this one!
     
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    I so wish I could put up the vid from the 06 AFC game. That's a whole story on what will be or will not be called according to who you play for or the name on your jersey. Banta-Cain's hit on payton's head { in that game} was about the same as what the eagles player did a few weeks ago. That also kept a dead drive alive.
     
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    In Response to Re: Colts Caught Cheating (In-Game):
    [QUOTE]That was such a flagrant PI that didn't get called -- and on a critical 3rd down that would have kept the drive alive and given us a new set of downs to run off a couple of more minutes -- that I wanted to throw a brick at the refs (but I can't throw one from 1,300 miles away). How could they possibly have missed that call?
    Posted by sheldong[/QUOTE]

    Get yourself a foam one to throw at the TV
     
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    [QUOTE]Missed call ? 3rd and 4 / 4th QTR with7:22 left to go. Clearly beyond the 5 yrd bump zone.
    Posted by ohyes[/QUOTE]

    exactly what i had in mind. it was not a phantom pi call this time. it was a a pi non-call.
     
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    I don't really care if this sounds like a conspiracy or not, but it's pretty clear the officials are instructed to turn away or make a call that isn't there when NE has the lead on Indy.

    It's happened so many times in one direction, I am not sure how any Colts fan could even make a case.

    It's not so much the call, but the circumstances.

    Need a phantom PI call? No problem!  Launch it way over a receiver's head and dive.

    PI!  First down Colts!

    Need a botched spot with the player's back to you?  No problem!

    What about a PI call in the end zone with no contact to speak of?

    What about a WR mauled in the end zone with contact, trying to come back for the ball, but no call?

    Always works out in FAVOR of Indy and they always seem to be calls that are momentum changers/swingers.


     
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    [QUOTE]Yea this is more like 100% a joke. The same could be said of every team, holding is cheating and on every single play there is an O linemen holding on both teams. Sometimes it gets called sometimes it doesnt. I would call it a penalty not cheating the same way I would call what the Colts did a penalty not cheating.
    Posted by MVPkilla4life[/QUOTE]

    Dude, I was kidding.  People love to throw the word "cheat" around.
     
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    Tas - I heard you yelling on my TV.  Told my wife that you would singlehandedly help get the pats over the top.  Look at your excellent work. 

    Bet it was a great game to be at. 
     
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    BBReigns,

    I could tell you were joking.  Well done, man.
     
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    in all fairness the ref was directly behind Branch and could probably not see the arm bar. I did not call it cheating. Just put it up to show what   I    see too much when the colts play.
     
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    The whole cheating thing is just hate.

    People will forget SpyGate just like they forget how the Steelers' Steel Curtain dynasty was driven by rampant steroid use that's resulted in several of the players dying young of cancer, or how the 49ers-Cowboys rivalries/dynasties of the late 80's and early 90's were driven in part by their refusal to adjust to the new salary-cap era, where the 49ers were penalized pretty heavily for their violations.  When the Brady-Belichick era finally ends and the Pats truly have to rebuild, fans will move on to hating another team that's successful and so it goes.

    When most fans outside New England hate on the Pats, they say that stealing signals was "breaking the rules" and is cheating, but they conveniently don't treat all rule violations equally.  It seems that teams that enjoy the most success inspire the most hate, then conveniently get hit with penalties on things that it seems everyone is doing at the time (Goodell mentions that stealing signals is common, Broncos enjoy two in a row and get hit, 49ers enjoy two decades of success and get hit, Steelers get all kinds of attention for their QB who despite my suspicions hasn't been convicted by a jury of his peers and for their 1970's steroid use).

    And video-taping signals offers virtually zero advantage over just hiring scouts and buying tickets to sit in the stands and do the same thing with notebooks.  It saves staff (only takes one person to videotape versus multiple scouts to track multiple signalers and only improves accuracy by a few percentage points over the human error of the human signal stealers).

    For your education:
    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/inside_game/magazine/life_of_reilly/news/2002/01/09/life_of_reilly/
    http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=green_jeremy&id=3051500
    http://thesportslawprofessor.blogspot.com/2007/09/patriots-did-not-cheat_12.html
    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/17/sports/football/17nfl.html
    http://www.usatoday.com/sports/columnist/brennan/2007-09-12-brennan-cheating_N.htm
    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/writers/don_banks/07/06/cheating.nfl/
    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/11/14/with-pats-returning-to-pittsburgh-spygate-rears-its-head/

    Steelers:
    http://www.amazon.com/False-Glory-Steelers-Steroids-Courson/dp/0681411872
    http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/2009/01/03/2009-01-03_excerpt_spiral_of_denial_reveals_culture.html
    http://weblogs.sun-sentinel.com/sports/columnists/hyde/blog/2009/01/steelers_and_steroids_1.html
    http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/news/s_462321.html
    http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/8322840
    http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/otl/news/story?id=3831956
    http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/otl/news/story?id=3832996
    *To note, steroid use while ILLEGAL seemed to be the norm for that era.  I could do the same exercise except with former Oakland Raiders

    49ers:
    http://www.nytimes.com/2000/08/20/sports/pro-fooball-notebook-the-49ers-salary-cap-under-nfl-inquiry.html

    Broncos:
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A28969-2004Sep17.html

    As for how the Colts conveniently get calls at the end of games, one famous writer had similar thoughts watching the Steelers and Colts a few years ago (the Polamalu "incomplete pass" game):
    http://freakonomics.blogs.nytimes.com/2006/01/16/cheating-in-the-nfl/

    And I guess crying for new rules is better than breaking them:
    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/02/10/pereira-says-emphasis-on-illegal-contact-didnt-seem-logical/
    http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ms-thegameface110207

    As for the whole pass interference bit, Pereira makes a suggestion:
    http://fifthdown.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/02/11/pereira-says-the-n-f-l-has-it-wrong-on-pass-interference/

    Sometimes other people say it better than I do, though:
    http://thenewsofworld.com/indianapolis-colts-president-bill-polian-is-the-biggest-cheater-in-the-nfl/


    But thanks for visiting.  Try again some other time.
     
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    [QUOTE] I'll play troll.... They probably learned that from the Pats who cheat every second of every day. It's only illegal when the team that does it isn't named the Colts.
    Posted by Evil2010[/QUOTE]

    To paraphrase, it's legal if the team that does it is not named the Patriots
     

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