Re: COULD IT BE THAT SANDUSKY AND PATERNO WERE RAILROADED (UNLIKE THE SYRACUSE ASSISTANT COACH)?
posted at 11/18/2011 2:04 PM EST
UD6 - All Commie is saying is that most people around here, like Callahan on WEEI have already tried, prosecuted, and put the guy to death.That my friend is a with witch hunt, and it is the reason we have the Bill (or I should say had) of Rights. Without the Bill of Rights, Democracy becomes a Tyranny or Dictatorship of the Masses!!
Quasi, I didn't recall anywhere in commie's comments that he brought up specific commentators. I put him on being more general in his position. And if you reread you might see that I said Sandusky was going to get his day in court, but I am, as are others, entitled to draw conclusions based on the information presented. The basis for mine is the Grand Jury presentment that included testimony under oath of a number people related to an investigation that went on for more than 2 years. To prosecute Sandusky was not a knee jerk reaction like the Duke case. This decision was the result of a long methodical investigation. As I said, Sandusky will get his day in court, but I and others are entitled to our opinions.
You have the gall to read the press; The lousy lying press? and you believe them verbatum? No questions asked? Whatever they say is true? Shaunessey says the Pats are not good and you believe him, or worse, you crucify him? It is just the press, and in the end they are just trying to sell papers.
With all due respect, the Grand Jury Presentment has nothing to do with the press except that the press made the document available to the public. That presentment is the primary reason for my opinion. Further, most of the press that I have read on this topic relates to result of investigative journalism as opposed to the columnists opinions on it. For example, not in the presentment but learned through further investigation is that relevant charity records from 2000-2003 are nowhere to be found. Don't you find that to be the slightest bit concerning?
Just like after 9/11 I saw a short video on YouTube by Ex President Eisenhauer, the only President in my life who had the absolute right to say this, because he was the General in WW II, so he knew the BS that the public was getting. He said: "In times of war is the most important times to question your Government!!" And so in the last 10 years, we are out bombing this country and that, and no one here has the right to question it? It was so up tight here back then, everyone believing what all the politcians were saying? Politicians? Speaking the Truth? And you believe them?
This is completely off topic and unrelated to the Sandusky case.
Ridiculous!! And now once again, the people are believing the press is a god, and it is sickening to listen to all this BS. I am not condoning Sandusky at all, but I am watching the BS that is being put out, and the way the public has tried and convicted him, just like Ellsbury 2 years ago, and yes it is the same. You have heard of things in both cases, and too many of you jump to conclusions right away. There may be a lot of these young boys, now adults who are lying to get attention. And you can't be so sure they aren't, and so many other things may arise. But one thing is certain, many other schools, athletics, Boy Scouts and more will start to come out and make public what they also went through, and all that will become of it is the public will finally come to realize what they all were ignorant of is that this type of thing is very very common in our society!!
I think you might want to back off of calling me "the public". I am very comfortable with my ability to read information and make decisions about whether or not I consider the information valid. On this subject, I don't know that there is anything that I am unwilling to back up. I am not saying that my opinions won't be found wrong, but until they are, I am willing to stand by them. Let's say for the sake of argument, that Sandusky is found innocent. I've still got problems with him. He crossed moral boundries (that he's admitted to) that I believe jeopardize kids. Horseplay in a shower with pre-teens is inappropriate. And yes, I'll villify him for that.
And I'll villify Paterno for allowing Sandusky around the football program with kids after Paterno was notified of seeing Sandusky "rape" the boy in 2002. Proven or not, Paterno knew something happened and testified that he heard it was of a sexual nature. At a minimum, Paterno could have and should have made sure that Sandusky never again came around the football program with or without kids.
All I am saying is let things come out and maybe he is a lousy rapist. Maybe his head has gone off his rocker he's gone insane and he knows not what he does. And if Sandusky was YOUR father, would you put a bullet to his head? Or would it simply blow your belief & faith in the world you are living in, or maybe you have a 25 year old son, and that would even be worse, because you raised him and taught him well you thought, so what in h@ll went wrong? or would you put him down too? Just save your conviction until the real stuff comes out!!
if he is a rapist, he's more than lousy. If he's proven guilty on all counts, that takes his transgressions back to 1994. In 1999 (after the 98 season) he was National Assistant Football Coach of the year. Do you think someone insane could accomplish that? I wouldn't put a bullet in anyone's head. If my son committed such heinous acts and I thought I had raised him the right way, then yes, I'd feel some guilt. I'd ask myself where I went wrong. As for saving my conviction, I'll let the guy have his day in court, but he's already admitted to enough for me to know he's guilty of highly immoral behavior.