posted at 3/15/2012 1:14 PM EDT
In Response to Re: Cunningham
[QUOTE]You make a good point that there actually weren't many holdovers on D from 2010 to 2011. Ninkovich did marginally improve, I went back and looked at the stats to go with the eye test, and his stats, though small, did improve across the board, so I'll concede that one. Chung, in the last 3 years, has played, in order, 16, 14 and finally 8 games last year. I'm not giving him credit for any improvement when he's on the field less and less. McCourty took a HEALTHY step backwards. Mike Wright went backwards as he could get on the field for only 1 game. Bodden/Merriweather/Butler ALL got cut, I'd call that 3 very big steps backwards. So you gave me 1 name that got better (Ninko), and I gave 5 that went backwards, not including Cunningham, or Chung who we disagree on. It should really have been no surprise the D looked awful when 3/4 of the expected starters in the backfield get either cut, or look like a shell of themselves, and the 4th played half the season. Their starting D consisted of a lost corner, a nickle back pressed into starting service, a ST (Ihedigbo) pressed into starting time, and 2 WR/ST (Edelman/Slater) splitting time at the other S position! It HAS to get better than that! It can't be THAT BAD again! I think 2011 will be looked upon by historians as "The Great NE Purge" when BB finally got back on track after taking some chances on players he never did in the past, and them blowing up in his face.
Posted by ma6dragon9[/QUOTE]
I count step backwards as performance on the field. Injures happen and that can't be controled so I don't count that as taking a step backwards.
I mean honestly you are going to say Wright took a step backwards because he got another concussion? His play wasn't affect but he couldn't play anymore. Same with Chung yes he didn't play as many games but again I seperate improving and taking a step backwards from injures. His on field play improved. McCourty yes took a step backwards but by the end of the season he almost returned to form.
Out of all the players mentioned only taking on field performance into account I would say only McCourty and Cunningham took a step backwards. On field everyone else got better (save for Bodden but as it turns out he was still playing with an injury at the time). McCourty at least improved as the year went on, Cunningham seemed to get worse by the game and lost BB' trust quickly (reference playing time).
I'd say Cunningham was the only player who lost playing time that wasn't a result from injury of the players returning from the previous season which should speak volumes.
BTW Butler really? He was cut before the regular season. I don't think you can even count him