Dan lebatard: "i am legit concerned about Wes Welker's future, he's already showing signs of possible brain damage!"

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    Dan lebatard: "i am legit concerned about Wes Welker's future, he's already showing signs of possible brain damage!"

    listened to the itunes archive of dan's radio show while getting some work done overnight.. was talking about gronk and about protecting players from head injuries. he knows wes from his miami days. was really concerned that wes was allowed to play after his first official concussion. dan says he's ben concerned for years esp after watching film of him at texas tech of wes being lit up again and again from obvious head shots mainly from special teams. he knows of the constant headaches and has heard some alarming backstage stuff.

    he thinks wes has had dozens of concussions. he says he cant help but notice the same permanent, unnatural glazed look in wes' eyes that he once noticed with concern with Ali (esp before his trevor berbick match), and with chuck lindell and a few others of that ilk. feels that wes is "punch drunk" and needs an intervention. cant believe noone is coming to wes' aid for its so logically obvious... thinks the pats knew something. also feels that peyton isnt helping wes with all those flutter balls in tight windows. can see that wes is no longer getting the separation he used to and simply isnt quick enough to avoid certain hits anymore esp to his head.

    dan doesnt like what he sees of him both on TV and lately in person. this is not the wes he came to know.. he really thinks something's off with wes healthwise and thinks he should seriously consider retiring after this year and shouldnt even  play again this year. dan feels wes will be a negative stat example like some of the old uys like the old pats RB (kevin something) who today cant speak and move himself, sad statistic of lou gehrig's disease. dan cant see how this can possibly end well for WES!

    the more dan talked, more i begin to think wes' drops may be caused by some latent form of parkinsons and that his indecision on that key punt may be just another symptom of his issues. dan really has me concerned for the future of wes' life!

     
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    Re: Dan lebatard:

    Very very sad

    if pats knew it but didn't tell him , not good, but that is pure conjecture and a wreckers unfounded accusation. especially considering the Pats offered him a substantial contract, whethrter or not he took it

    a better question if what Dan was saying is why the broncs and WW went out there after his first concussionconcussion

    I have some question if the broncs put him out there any time soon, and am sure WW must be aware of the negative possibilities,  if it were my decision he wouldn't play at least this year, football be damned. 

    I would also like to see some talk of new helmets. The weapon on these guys heads is lethal not that it would solve all problems and I wonder too about better head protection

     
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    Re: Dan lebatard:

    Man that BB always knows when to get out..

    Seriously though, if there is any truth to this than he really needs to think about life after football. He isnt gonna win another ring playing with Pouty anyway. He has the stats. Just be happy with being the greatest slot WR to play and the fact you played with the 2 greatest QBs  of this era.... and call it quits. Noone will think less of him.

     

     
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    Re: Dan lebatard:

    If it is true then to some extent it may be too late to do anything other than limit it to only the damage already done.

     

     
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    Re: Dan lebatard:

    NFL Needs to change the rules to protects guys who make a living catching passes in the middle of the field. 

     
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    Re: Dan lebatard:

    Blame the fans.  If we didn't watch this violent crap, no one would get hurt.

     
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    Re: Dan lebatard:

    Maybe at the end of the day it would be better for Wes Welker to retire with the health that he has left... I hope the best for him and all players that suffer the same injuries...

     
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    Re: Dan lebatard:

    In response to seawolfxs' comment:
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    Very very sad

    if pats knew it but didn't tell him , not good, but that is pure conjecture and a wreckers unfounded accusation. especially considering the Pats offered him a substantial contract, whethrter or not he took it

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    If the Pats knew what but didn't tell him? That he had concussions? Don't you think HE knew that?  

    This is on him, not the Patriots or the Broncos or the NFL. He knows the score, whether he wants to keep playing because he needs the money or because he just wants to, he is aware of the risk. Nobody is forcing him to go back out there. I think he's stupid if he keeps playing, but that's on him.



     
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    Re: Dan lebatard:

    I can't think of another player who has taken more brutal hits over the past 7 years or so than Welker.  There could be a lot of truth to this.  2 concussions in the past 3 weeks isn't good.  Hope he doesn't rush back.  Health first.

     
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    Re: Dan lebatard:

    Ya think?  Very sad, but very very true. Not being insensitive, just glad the PATS moved on when they did.  It speaks to the reasons that we have seen Wes essentially freeze under high stress situations. His motor skills seem to have been on a decline for some time now. Really too bad, but as some have said, he knows the score. 

     
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    Re: Dan lebatard:

    In response to Muzwell's comment:
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    This is on him, not the Patriots or the Broncos or the NFL. He knows the score, whether he wants to keep playing because he needs the money or because he just wants to, he is aware of the risk. Nobody is forcing him to go back out there. I think he's stupid if he keeps playing, but that's on him.


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    Agreed!!

     
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    Re: Dan lebatard:

    In response to CommyContrarianOnTwitter's comment:
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    listened to the itunes archive of dan's radio show while getting some work done overnight.. was talking about gronk and about protecting players from head injuries. he knows wes from his miami days. was really concerned that wes was allowed to play after his first official concussion. dan says he's ben concerned for years esp after watching film of him at texas tech of wes being lit up again and again from obvious head shots mainly from special teams. he knows of the constant headaches and has heard some alarming backstage stuff.

    he thinks wes has had dozens of concussions. he says he cant help but notice the same permanent, unnatural glazed look in wes' eyes that he once noticed with concern with Ali (esp before his trevor berbick match), and with chuck lindell and a few others of that ilk. feels that wes is "punch drunk" and needs an intervention. cant believe noone is coming to wes' aid for its so logically obvious... thinks the pats knew something. also feels that peyton isnt helping wes with all those flutter balls in tight windows. can see that wes is no longer getting the separation he used to and simply isnt quick enough to avoid certain hits anymore esp to his head.

    dan doesnt like what he sees of him both on TV and lately in person. this is not the wes he came to know.. he really thinks something's off with wes healthwise and thinks he should seriously consider retiring after this year and shouldnt even  play again this year. dan feels wes will be a negative stat example like some of the old uys like the old pats RB (kevin something) who today cant speak and move himself, sad statistic of lou gehrig's disease. dan cant see how this can possibly end well for WES!

    the more dan talked, more i begin to think wes' drops may be caused by some latent form of parkinsons and that his indecision on that key punt may be just another symptom of his issues. dan really has me concerned for the future of wes' life!

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    Re: Dan lebatard:


    Of all the threads CC has created, why is there any credence given to this one?

    Can anyone corroborate his source?  He's usually without any evidence...

     
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    Re: Dan lebatard:

    I wouldn't rely on Dan Lebatard for medical advise.  Wes, obviously, should be very concerned about two concussions in a very short time span.  He seems like the kind of guy that will play again as soon as they tell him he can.

    I hope he can avoid the big hits.  He just isn't going to quit while he is still a top player.  

     
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    Re: Dan lebatard:

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    I wouldn't rely on Dan Lebatard for medical advise.  Wes, obviously, should be very concerned about two concussions in a very short time span.  He seems like the kind of guy that will play again as soon as they tell him he can.

    I hope he can avoid the big hits.  He just isn't going to quit while he is still a top player.  

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    Spot on.  I don't think he was ever right in the head to begin with, playing that position at that size across the middle.

     
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    Re: Dan lebatard:

    In response to Muzwell's comment:
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    In response to seawolfxs' comment:
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    Very very sad

    if pats knew it but didn't tell him , not good, but that is pure conjecture and a wreckers unfounded accusation. especially considering the Pats offered him a substantial contract, whethrter or not he took it

    ...

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    If the Pats knew what but didn't tell him? That he had concussions? Don't you think HE knew that?  

    This is on him, not the Patriots or the Broncos or the NFL. He knows the score, whether he wants to keep playing because he needs the money or because he just wants to, he is aware of the risk. Nobody is forcing him to go back out there. I think he's stupid if he keeps playing, but that's on him.

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    This is so true.  How many times have we heard a player say they tried to hide they had a possible concussion so they would not miss any playing time?  But, then again, some player will sue the team claiming they "should have known" the player had a concussion and should have done something about it.  Right?

     
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    Re: Dan lebatard:

    I have watched some recent interviews by Welker and don't see any signs of the "punch drunk" effects mentioned in Commy's post.  I doubt the Pats would have even made an offer if they noticed signs and I doubt the Broncos would have even signed Welker had they noticed signs.

    I tried to find the LeBatard interview commy has referenced, I can not find it.  Commy, can you please provide a link or the podcast details?  The latest podcast I see from LaBatard is from 12/5 and I went through it and couldn't find any discussion about this.

    I don't see any prior concussion history for Welker when he was with the Pats.  One thing I find interesting is Collie, Stokley and now Welker have all had multiple concussions under Peyton Manning as the QB.  What is Manning doing to his slot guys?

     
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    Re: Dan lebatard:

    I buy that he is brain damaged - how else could he drop that ball in the afc championship game last year and in Super Bowl 46

     
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    Re: Dan lebatard:

    In response to TFB12's comment:
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    I have watched some recent interviews by Welker and don't see any signs of the "punch drunk" effects mentioned in Commy's post.  I doubt the Pats would have even made an offer if they noticed signs and I doubt the Broncos would have even signed Welker had they noticed signs.

    I tried to find the LeBatard interview commy has referenced, I can not find it.  Commy, can you please provide a link or the podcast details?  The latest podcast I see from LaBatard is from 12/5 and I went through it and couldn't find any discussion about this.

    I don't see any prior concussion history for Welker when he was with the Pats.  One thing I find interesting is Collie, Stokley and now Welker have all had multiple concussions under Peyton Manning as the QB.  What is Manning doing to his slot guys?

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    welker Ryan Clark 2009

     
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    Re: Dan lebatard:

    In response to TFB12's comment:
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    I have watched some recent interviews by Welker and don't see any signs of the "punch drunk" effects mentioned in Commy's post.  I doubt the Pats would have even made an offer if they noticed signs and I doubt the Broncos would have even signed Welker had they noticed signs.

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    Two major concussions in three weeks is a big red flag. Beyond that, every NFL player gets concussed almost every time they take the field. Just because they aren't knocked silly doesn't mean they aren't concussed. Some guys can handle more and keep going, but they're still affected. It's like with boxers, some guys can get hammered repeatedly and keep on fighting. Other guys go down easy. Who's worse off long term?

    A guy like Welker takes as many shots as anybody. It's a cumulative deal. If anybody, the NFL, the team, were really concerned about the guy's health they'd make him stop playing. The Broncos are trying to win games, so they'll follow the rules and get him out there ASAP.

    So, it's on the player to take the action that's in his best interest because the teams are going to do what's in their best interest, not his. They want to get their money's worth.



     
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    Re: Dan lebatard:

    I'm pretty sure it was Peyton Manning who, for some reason was wearing the # 5 jersey in warmups, gave Pam Oliver a concussion.

     
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    Re: Dan lebatard:

    In response to TFB12's comment:
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    One thing I find interesting is Collie, Stokley and now Welker have all had multiple concussions under Peyton Manning as the QB.  What is Manning doing to his slot guys?

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    Very good point.

     
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    Re: Dan lebatard:

    In response to TFB12's comment:
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    I'm pretty sure it was Peyton Manning who, for some reason was wearing the # 5 jersey in warmups, gave Pam Oliver a concussion.

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    That was Chandler Harnish.

     

     
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