Re: Dennard arrested on suspicion of dui.....
posted at 7/11/2013 9:36 AM EDT
In response to PatsEng's comment:
In response to UD6's comment:
In response to PatsEng's comment:
This kid isn't bright in the least. Punching an undercover cop once completely stupid but at his age forgivable, but now a dui in less than 15months since the other incident? I know the kid is young but really? You go out and get a dui after being convicted of punching a cop right after Hernandez gets arrested and released? Not bright at all. Now I think he deserves to get a 4 games suspension easily and I'm on the edge of just saying drop the kid. But, there is a huge difference between stupidity of a young kid and being criminally psychotic. The question now is, what in his past will tip the balance from just young stupidity to a pattern of behavior? Unfortunately as fans we don't have access to that info, much like we didn't have with Hernandez until he was arrested. Personally I wouldn't be upset if Dennard was released or just suspended by the team for 4 games depending on what they know about the kid.
I swear by lil 10 pound bearded baby Jesus
They know that before they drafted him that he punched a cop. Now maybe as a first offense they thoght he would be treated leniently. They now know he's got a second offense in less than 2 years that he is facing.
Money and celebrity has the ability to change people. What he may have been before, he no longer is. I assume that if the kid is talented enough, they will not cut him, because if they do, some other team will pick him up, just as the pats acquired the talented but troubled Talib.
This is nothing new in the NFL, but we can now dispense with the Patriot Way stuff. Its over.
Sure, can you admit the Colts intentionally tanked a season to get Luck?
Of course they knew he punched a cop before the draft. Why do you think a round 2 talent fell to the 7th round? The question is whether it was an isolated incident or not, which is something we as fans don't know. Maybe it's where I grew up but kids do stupid things and punching a undercover cop once when you're drunk and there is mass confusion because of the atmosphere of a fight outside is stupid yes but it's not the same as someone walking up to a cop car and pounding a cop repeatedly. Point being stupid yes but something you can chalk up to young stupidity. Getting a DUI same thing. Another completely stupid move by far and away but can be young stupidity. However, a pattern is starting to form. If there were other incidents we as fans don't know about before these incidents then to me that's a strong enough indication it's more than young stupidity and the kid just won't get it, they should cut him. But, if these are isolated incidents by themselves than far worse acts have been done by players around the league. If not for timing, this would be something you bring the kid in, sit him down, suspend him, and hope it doesn't happen again. All I'm saying is if it's a pattern then the kid needs to go otherwise suspend him and hope it gets through his thick skull
No, I cannot admit that, because I don't see it that way. Certainly, with this statement there will be those who ask why the colts didn't do more to get more wins, but given the number of games that the colts were capable of winning that season but came up short, combined with low expectations when the wins didn't happen, the question becomes, "what do you expect from the team"? Should the team spend millions more (to the cap) and sacrifice their future to not even guarantee one more win? Should the colts have spent to the cap in hopes of getting 2 more wins? The facts are that Manning covered up a bunch of short comings the team had due to aging and injuries. That was evidenced by the 70% roster turnover the following year. But no, I don't think they intentionally tanked, but should it be proven otherwise, as a colts fan, I will have to own it. Really, I think it was front office ineptitude. There was alot of rancor in the org with Polian making his son GM and allowing him to call shots. As a result there were coaching departures and poor personnel decisions. I blame polian.
Back to Dennard, I think you and I are on the same page here. I am willing to accept that the cop incident was isolated. He may have never been in trouble before, but, as I also said, fame and money have the capacity to change people.
IMO, however, this really isn't about Dennard. This kind of stuff happens all the time in the NFL and in common life. This is about the pats frequently taking chances on players with character questions. In Dennard's case, isolated incident or not, the incident existed, wasn't settled, and the pats chose to roll the dice. It seems safe to say they roll the dice as much or more these days than other teams in the NFL. But along with them rolling the dice, they seemed to project this mentality that they could keep these guys in line. Maybe that wasn't Belichick, but it certainly was Kraft and others. Regardless, it was implicit in their decision to take these guys. If they didn't think they could control them, they wouldn't take them.