Do Teams Fear The Patriots Defense?

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    Do Teams Fear The Patriots Defense?

    http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/2012/11/23/patriots-defense-special-teams-improve/waPbbbCGXWRBH8jym3p2mK/story.html

    The recent article suggests that the defense has improved. But, enough so that opponents fear the Patriots defense and ST play heading to the end of the season and playoffs?

    Their +24 takeaway/giveaway ratio certainly supports ballhawkings skills.

     
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    Re: Do Teams Fear The Patriots Defense?

    I think they should, cause when the offense is clicking that means other teams have to play come-from-behind (CFB), and their are more chances for INTs, QBs fumbling, ect, ect. The Patriots defense is very opportunistic.

     
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    Spikes definitely brings as intimidation factor, as does Wilfork. Talib's playmaking skills will start to worry opposing QB's soon as well.

     
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    Re: Do Teams Fear The Patriots Defense?

    It is the same story as last year. The D was what would not get them to the SB. All the experts said they give up too much yardage. We yardage does not get you any points at least not yet any way. 390 yds per game and 6 per play 244 points 22 per game. Middle of the pack

     
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    Re: Do Teams Fear The Patriots Defense?

    I still think that teams are salivating at going at this defense, but of course afraid of the offense. Most teams see turnovers as "mistakes" 80% of the time, and most teams feel they can control mistakes. The circus against the Jets was the Jets playing dumb ball football for the most part, led by a dumb bell coach that has tolerated stupid mistakes from day 1

     
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    Re: Do Teams Fear The Patriots Defense?

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    I still think that teams are salivating at going at this defense, but of course afraid of the offense. Most teams see turnovers as "mistakes" 80% of the time, and most teams feel they can control mistakes. The circus against the Jets was the Jets playing dumb ball football for the most part, led by a dumb bell coach that has tolerated stupid mistakes from day 1

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    If an opponent believes in "What, Me Worry?", that's their prerogative.  The Patriots got off to a 35-3 first half because:

    On the Jets' first drive Hightower sacked the Sanchize and then the Jets punted after three plays.

    On their second drive the Sanchize had an uncomfortable feeling and tossed the ball away to Steve Gregory.

    On their third drive the New England defense stuffed New York on 4 downs.  The subsequent fumble on fourth down was interesting but it didn't particularly help New York.

    On their fourth drive there was a lineman bearing down on the Sanchize.  It was his own guy being thrown back onto him.  The Sanchize fumbled, and the defense scored a touchdown.

    The fifth drive was canceled before it started when a Patriots helmet came between McKnight and his personal football.  

    On the sixth drive the Sanchize was sacked and they had to punt again.

    On the seventh drive the Jets converted a fourth down, but then the Patriots' defense helped them fumble away all of the remaining seconds in the half, so they kicked a field goal on second down.  By this time, the entire home crowd was either booing or leaving early.  

    Now, I'll grant you that the Jets are 27th in pass offense and 15th in running offense, no great shakes, but seven times in a row Patriots defenders were helping these guys look like utter fools.  A great deal of this game was good defense.

     

     

     
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    Re: Do Teams Fear The Patriots Defense?

    The defense gave Sanchez 300 yards, but it truly was a case of stats lying. Sanchez didn't hit 300 yards until late in the 4th. 

     

    The Jets had the ball much longer than New England, the Pats only made up the difference of the TOP in the 4th when they took Ridley and ran it down the throats of the Jets. The defense played better than the stats suggest. 

     
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    Re: Do Teams Fear The Patriots Defense?

    Oh, the answer is no though. No one is 'afraid' of the Patriots defense, they might not be licking their chops like they used to, but they're not afraid. 

     
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    They are certainly worried about turnovers because the Pats offense is the highest scoring in the league. In last nights post game the Jet players kept saying that all week long they talked about turnovers. They knew they could not hang with the Pats if they lost the turnover battle.

     
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    Re: Do Teams Fear The Patriots Defense?

    The offense is feared. The defense doesn't need to be feared, it just needs to be good.

     
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    They are certainly worried about turnovers because the Pats offense is the highest scoring in the league. In last nights post game the Jet players kept saying that all week long they talked about turnovers. They knew they could not hang with the Pats if they lost the turnover battle.

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    From what I saw the Jets focussed too much on turnovers. Not trying to be facitious but if you know that is the key to the game and you are thinking about it too much you will have a tendency to turn it over...we have seen it two weeks in a row.

     
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    They are certainly worried about turnovers because the Pats offense is the highest scoring in the league. In last nights post game the Jet players kept saying that all week long they talked about turnovers. They knew they could not hang with the Pats if they lost the turnover battle.

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    From what I saw the Jets focussed too much on turnovers. Not trying to be facitious but if you know that is the key to the game and you are thinking about it too much you will have a tendency to turn it over...we have seen it two weeks in a row.

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    It's always a possibility. The Saints a few years ago had an average defense that killed teams with turnovers. Week after week the media talked about the Saints ability to get turnovers and uncannily in crucial moments the Saints got turnovers. So maybe teams get a little tight worrying about them but it takes a Brady, Brees, Rodgers or Manning to make teams really fear a turnover.

     
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    They are certainly worried about turnovers because the Pats offense is the highest scoring in the league. In last nights post game the Jet players kept saying that all week long they talked about turnovers. They knew they could not hang with the Pats if they lost the turnover battle.

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    From what I saw the Jets focussed too much on turnovers. Not trying to be facitious but if you know that is the key to the game and you are thinking about it too much you will have a tendency to turn it over...we have seen it two weeks in a row.

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    It's always a possibility. The Saints a few years ago had an average defense that killed teams with turnovers. Week after week the media talked about the Saints ability to get turnovers and uncannily in crucial moments the Saints got turnovers. So maybe teams get a little tight worrying about them but it takes a Brady, Brees, Rodgers or Manning to make teams really fear a turnover.

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    Yes it does.

     
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    I still think that teams are salivating at going at this defense, but of course afraid of the offense. Most teams see turnovers as "mistakes" 80% of the time, and most teams feel they can control mistakes. The circus against the Jets was the Jets playing dumb ball football for the most part, led by a dumb bell coach that has tolerated stupid mistakes from day 1

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    If an opponent believes in "What, Me Worry?", that's their prerogative.  The Patriots got off to a 35-3 first half because:

    On the Jets' first drive Hightower sacked the Sanchize and then the Jets punted after three plays.

    On their second drive the Sanchize had an uncomfortable feeling and tossed the ball away to Steve Gregory.

    On their third drive the New England defense stuffed New York on 4 downs.  The subsequent fumble on fourth down was interesting but it didn't particularly help New York.

    On their fourth drive there was a lineman bearing down on the Sanchize.  It was his own guy being thrown back onto him.  The Sanchize fumbled, and the defense scored a touchdown.

    The fifth drive was canceled before it started when a Patriots helmet came between McKnight and his personal football.  

    On the sixth drive the Sanchize was sacked and they had to punt again.

    On the seventh drive the Jets converted a fourth down, but then the Patriots' defense helped them fumble away all of the remaining seconds in the half, so they kicked a field goal on second down.  By this time, the entire home crowd was either booing or leaving early.  

    Now, I'll grant you that the Jets are 27th in pass offense and 15th in running offense, no great shakes, but seven times in a row Patriots defenders were helping these guys look like utter fools.  A great deal of this game was good defense.

     

     

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    against a team that the patriots are supposed to beat

     
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    Re: Do Teams Fear The Patriots Defense?

    during the game the other night, i think it was collinsworth, said the pats D is currently riding an NFL record 22 game streak forcing at least one turnover.

     

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