Dobson Shows Signs Of Improvement?

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    Re: Dobson Shows Signs Of Improvement?

    In response to Uncle Rico's comment:
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    In response to prolate0spheroid's comment:

     

    I really like the way he's progressing.  He's starting to show what we all hoped he would show.  Size, speed, and decent hands.  Hopefully it continues to get better as the season unfolds. 

     



    What? Really?

     

    Game 1 = 0

    Game 2 = 3 rec for 56 yards and 1 td

    Game 3 = 7 rec for 52 yards

    Game 4 = 1 rec for 10 yards

    Game 5 = 2 rec for 49 yards

    Game 6 = 6 rec for 63 yards

    Game 7 = 3 rec for 34 yards

    Game 8 = 4 rec for 60 yards

    Aaron Dobson who, with eight drops and 26 catches, has the second-worst catch rate of all receivers. Poor Tom Terrific.

    https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2013/10/30/signature-stats-drop-rate/

    Also, look where Thompkins and Amendola are on the list.  8 weeks in ladies and gents and these are our wr's?  No excuses.   This is bad. 

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    You forget that Brady hasn't been Brady and has missed a wide open Aaron Dobson for TDs multiple times this year, including 2 TDs in week 7 that were wide open 30+ yards TDs. The passing game has been unspectacular due to BOTH Brady and the WRs.

     
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    In response to zbellino's comment:

    My credentials? I've watched football my entire life and look at stats while doing so. 

    Dr. Football. 



    LMFAO.

     
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    But Z.  Are you a mathmetician?  Are you qualified to look at those stats?

     
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    Are you a former NFL player or coach?  Are you qualified to watch the games and make judgements?

     
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    Re: Dobson Shows Signs Of Improvement?

    In response to Patsfansince1966's comment:


    No, Morgan 40+ catches in 1977.  Caught the winner in Atlanta.



    He had 21 catches in 1977.  MORON!

     
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    Re: Dobson Shows Signs Of Improvement?

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    Article on Dobson's Progress

    http://bostonherald.com/sports/patriots_nfl/new_england_patriots/2013/10/aaron_dobson_s_catching_on

    Fans expectations of immediate contributions were unrealistic.  I still don't think he has reached his potential, doubt that will occur this year - but at least he's showing some signs of improvement.  It takes actual pro experience to develop route running and timing. 

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    BB obviously had expectations of immediate contributions because he had him out there as a starter.

     
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    In response to Brad34's comment:
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    Article on Dobson's Progress

    http://bostonherald.com/sports/patriots_nfl/new_england_patriots/2013/10/aaron_dobson_s_catching_on

    Fans expectations of immediate contributions were unrealistic.  I still don't think he has reached his potential, doubt that will occur this year - but at least he's showing some signs of improvement.  It takes actual pro experience to develop route running and timing. 

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    BB obviously had expectations of immediate contributions because he had him out there as a starter.

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    WELL, WHAT OTHER RECEIVERS WERE ON THE TEAM?

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    None and whose fault is that?

     
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    But Z.  Are you a mathmetician?  Are you qualified to look at those stats?

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    I hire a statistician, a football analyst, a private chef to cook for the two of them, a human resources agent to evaluate them as employees, a doctor to monitor their heartrate and vitals, and a psychologist to put them through a battery of tests, for every football game. 

    At the end of the game, after they have watched the game, they dictate to a scribe, who works with an editor to compose a detailed dossier on the game and all the players. They hand the report to a printer, who sets the face and makes sure the document is perfect. After that, he hands it off to a professional, secure courier who brings the report to me, at which point I hand it to my hired secretary who reads it, and hands it to the appropriate ghost writer who comes to this football forum to write detailed responses. 

    It's the brave new world of PF1966 ... where you don't do ANYTHING unless you are qualified. 

    I don't even watch the games. 

    I can only teach college with my 'marginal intelligence,' my B.A., M.A., and PhD. Watching a few football games would sprain my frontal lobe. 

     
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    In response to Patsfansince1966's comment:
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    In response to zbellino's comment:
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    Article on Dobson's Progress

    http://bostonherald.com/sports/patriots_nfl/new_england_patriots/2013/10/aaron_dobson_s_catching_on

    Fans expectations of immediate contributions were unrealistic.  

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    So, Terry Glenn and Stanley Morgan and others were flukes?

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    Morgan had less catches in his rookie season than Dobson has now.

    That is average. 

    Terry Gleen had 90 catches for 1100+ yards. That is anomalous.

     

    Some fans expectations were unrealistic. The vast majority of WRs have uneventful rookie seasons, and contribute only marginally to their team. 

    My credentials? I've watched football my entire life and look at stats while doing so. 

    Dr. Football. 

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    No, Morgan 40+ catches in 1977.  Caught the winner in Atlanta.

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    Funny, the NFL says 21 for 443. 

    http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/M/MorgSt00/gamelog/1977/

    I suppose they aren't qualified to keep those stats ... you *know* better. Right?

     
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    Re: Dobson Shows Signs Of Improvement?

    In response to Harvey-Wallbanger's comment:

    Gomer goes to Denver and Eric Decker looks like Steve Largent. 



    Decker put up 600 yards and 8 TDs with probably the worst passing QB in the last 20 years.  He was hardly a JAG before Gomer showed up and more importantly he had been in the NFL for 2 full seasons.

     
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    Re: Dobson Shows Signs Of Improvement?

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    Funny, the NFL says 21 for 443. 

    http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/M/MorgSt00/gamelog/1977/

    I suppose they aren't qualified to keep those stats ... you *know* better. Right?



    No, I don't know better.  

    Here's a rookie WR stats:

    16 11 69 1313 19.0 17 61 4.3 82.1 1 4 0 4 4.0 0.3 0.1 1317 17 2 17[/QUOTE]

    So posting Randy Moss's rookie numbers shows what?

    That is average like you claim?

    Hardly. 

    The average rookie WR performance, what people should realistically expect, is much lower.

    Here are ALL the rookie WR stats from Terry Glenn's rookie season (an excellent WR year).

    The averages?

    All Rounds: 35 catches 208 yards average

    The controlled average to remove anomalous late round long shots and first round phenoms like Glenn and Moss (both of whom came freighted with much higher expectations than people should lay on Dobson)?

    Rounds 2-4: 17 catches 155 yards average

    That is what you can expect from rookie WRs. Especially mid-round WRs. You expect something like Amani Toomer, Joe Horn, and Mus Muhamid, all three of which would go on to fanastic careers after unspectacular rookie seasons like 25 - 407  or 2-30 or 1-12.

    If you expect Randy Moss numbers you are a complete fool.  

     

     1New York JetsKeyshawn Johnson53 - 834

    7New England PatriotsTerry Glenn90 - 1132

    18St. Louis RamsEddie Kennison54 - 924

    19Indianapolis ColtsMarv Harrison64 - 836

    24Buffalo BillsEric Moulds20 - 279

    31New York JetsAlex Van Dyke17 - 118

    34New York GiantsAmani Toomer1 - 12

    41San Diego ChargersBryan Still6 - 142

    43Carolina PanthersM Muhammad25 - 407

    52Chicago BearsBobby Engram33 - 389

    56Green Bay PackersDerrick Mayes6 - 46

    89San Francisco 49ersTerrell Owens35 - 520

    94Dallas CowboysS Williams1 - 32

    110Jacksonville JaguarsReggie Barlow5 - 74

    114San Diego ChargersCharlie Jones41 - 524   

    132Pittsburgh SteelersJahine Arnold6 - 76

    135Kansas City ChiefsJoe Horn2 - 30

    136New Orleans SaintsMercury Hayes4 - 101

    153Baltimore RavensJermaine Lewis5 -78

    159Denver BroncosPatrick Jeffers0 - 0

    160San Francisco 49ersI Uwaezuoke7 - 91

    165New Orleans SaintsTerry Guess2 - 69

    176Kansas City ChiefsDietrich Jells1-5

    180Tampa Bay BuccaneersNilo Silvan0-0

    185Jacksonville JaguarsChris Doering1-10

    186Baltimore RavensJames Roe7-124

    199Kansas City ChiefsPhilip Riley0-0

    204New Orleans SaintsDerick Malone0-0

    217Carolina PanthersDonnell Baker0-0

    227Jacksonville JaguarsClarence Jones0-0

    228Jacksonville JaguarsGregory Spann0-0

    250Washington RedskinsD Maxwel 0-0

    251Miami DolphinsBrice Hunter0-0

     

     
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    Re: Dobson Shows Signs Of Improvement?

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    In response to zbellino's comment:

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    I can only teach college with my 'marginal intelligence,' my B.A., M.A., and PhD. Watching a few football games would sprain my frontal lobe. 

     

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    WT Freak is an MA?

     

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    Master of Arts.

    A postgraduate degree. 

     
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    Re: Dobson Shows Signs Of Improvement?

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    Didn't say I expect Moss-like numbers, did I?  Was just trying to dispell the notion that no rookie receiver ever does anything-which is how most are treating Dobson, like he's done nothing and there were no expectations.

     

    I am a complete fool, as I was expecting you to be up to a logical discussion.  How foolish I was.

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    Stop speculating about numbers and impact ... it's pointless. What are you ... a coach?

     

     
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    Master of Arts.

    A postgraduate degree. 

     



    Oh a wimp degree.

     

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    Haha. Oooook.

     
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