Does bb cut cunningham in offseason? if he needs peds just to make it to this level of play, what will he be without it.

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    Re: Does bb cut cunningham in offseason? if he needs peds just to make it to this level of play, what will he be without it.

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    You know whats funny, back in the 60s , when you got dinged, saw the black screen ..or the shinies. They cracked open this vial ( amyl nitrate?) under your nose and you were good to go.

    I'll bet if there wasnt the TV coverage, that would still be modus operandi

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    Brady does the smelling salt thing on TV.  Seen him several times.

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    That's an advantage!  It's a PED! LOL

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    Is it banned, MORON?

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    Yes, but it doesn't enhance any human's performance. The NCAA bans caffeine. Are you this stupid for real?

    A banned substance by any company doesn't mean it's a PED.

     

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    Smelling salt is banned in the NFL???.   Like to bet on that?  Wow you really are something.

    It's no wonder you have no life, no friends and no girl.  Who could stand being around you for more than 30 seconds?  Does your momma even let you visit in the main house?

     

     
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    Re: Does bb cut cunningham in offseason? if he needs peds just to make it to this level of play, what will he be without it.

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    You know whats funny, back in the 60s , when you got dinged, saw the black screen ..or the shinies. They cracked open this vial ( amyl nitrate?) under your nose and you were good to go.

    I'll bet if there wasnt the TV coverage, that would still be modus operandi

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    Brady does the smelling salt thing on TV.  Seen him several times.

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    That's an advantage!  It's a PED! LOL

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    Is it banned, MORON?

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    Yes, but it doesn't enhance any human's performance. The NCAA bans caffeine. Are you this stupid for real?

    A banned substance by any company doesn't mean it's a PED.

     

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    Smelling salt is banned in the NFL???.   Like to bet on that?  Wow you really are something.

    It's no wonder you have no life, no friends and no girl.  Who could stand being around you for more than 30 seconds?  Does your momma even let you visit in the main house?

     

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    Umm, what?


    This is your retort?  LOL!  Game, set and match. Debating with you is like me bludgeoning Phat Rex with ease.  You don't even have a clue.

    Debate over.  That was seriously the oddest attempt at a deflection I've seen here. Now you're onto smelling salts and not countering what I challenged you on above?

     

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    You've been slapped around enough as you maintain the lead for the village idiot of BDC. 

    Now, delete your account so it doesn't get worse for you.  Nevermind, it's too late, no one will ever forget this ignorance and those lies.  Branded for life!  The scarlet "L" will forever be on your head.

     
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    Re: Does bb cut cunningham in offseason? if he needs peds just to make it to this level of play, what will he be without it.

    Man, Neal Page you are clueless.  You continues to make untrue statement after untrue statement, It's unbelievable!! It really is!  This is crazy, how can you take yourself serious let along expect others to take you serious.  You really don't know what you are talking about here.

     
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    Re: Does bb cut cunningham in offseason? if he needs peds just to make it to this level of play, what will he be without it.

    this thread is about Cunningham and for him this really sucks.... Since speculation and inuendo are damaging his standing in the league.  And the reason is a mystery as far as what he took, or how or why, to end up with a failed test. 

    The dude has.finally broken into the lineup this year and looked good making plays.  Based on that, he'll be back for the playoffs and contributing.  As for next year, BB probably resigns him at a discount...

     
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    Re: Does bb cut cunningham in offseason? if he needs peds just to make it to this level of play, what will he be without it.

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    Man, Neal Page you are clueless.  You continues to make untrue statement after untrue statement, It's unbelievable!! It really is!  This is crazy, how can you take yourself serious let along expect others to take you serious.  You really don't know what you are talking about here.

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    What statements are untrue?  Just because you type that and run away, like Pezzy does, doesn't counter anything I've said above.

    How is the NFL or any organization protecting its name, playing it safe, somehow me not knowing what I'm talking about?

    I've seen two outright inaccuracies here in these discussions:

     

    1. Cunningham caught for roids.  This is false. 

    2. Adderall is a masking agent. This is also false.

    Each statement is what happens when you don't really get to college and learn things, ending up clicking on rumor and innuendo on blogs for the source of fact. It ain't fact. 

    I made neither of these statments. These were made by two kids. One named Macmanemin and one by Bdbreu. 

    Lastly, it's not agreed upon in the medical community that amphetamines are definitively PEDs.

    That's a fact. It's why cocaine, crack, crystal meth or any upper available out there, manufactured legally or not, is not considered a PED by any medical authority.

    Amphetamines are not definitively a PED like a steroid or HGH.  You don't see any hypocrisy in HGH being a muscle mass building drug that is legal in the NFL, but an amphetamine to help you stay awake longer somehow is?

    LOL

    Goodell has himself caught up again, regardless of Cunningam in violation of something that is obviously very minor. I love how you call BB a liar, too.

    "These suspensions were avoidable/didn't have to happen.    They are not a big deal." - BB

    Right from the coach's mouth!

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    Yes, you are correct, it has never came out about Cunningham being busted for steroids and of course we all know Adderall is not a masking agent.

    But you are incorrect about Adderall not being a PED.  The NFL classifies Adderall as a PED and the Nevada State Athletic Commission has called Adderall a PED. Last I checked the Nevada State Athletic Commission is one of the top state athletic commissions in the country.  And these are just two examples, I'm sure we can find many more who classify adderall as a PED.  Just because it isn't a bodybuilding or conditioning enhancing drug, doesn't mean it isn't  performance enhancing.  It enhances perfromance by giving more energy, therefore being able to do physical activities longer or with less rest, it enhances performance by being able to have a clear and focused mind in order to perform a tasks. So adderall is clearly a PED.

     
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    Re: Does bb cut cunningham in offseason? if he needs peds just to make it to this level of play, what will he be without it.

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    only problem, knowing bb, and his stubborness/defiance, he might be more likely to keep him BECAUSE of this. i hope not. we gotta do better than cunn., esp with what i suspect as steroids out of his system.

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    Im sure he knew already. How else did he earn all those offseason accolades without playing. He was rewared for bulking up. nothing else. Because this allowed BB to save face and instead of cutting another 2nd round bust he was able to use him as a situational DE that proved to be a good move after Fanene went down. You dont see any vets that put in work getting caught cuz they get the warning call, others....not so much. Let me know when Brady gets caught for peds...

     
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    Re: Does bb cut cunningham in offseason? if he needs peds just to make it to this level of play, what will he be without it.

    Nice thread boys, some of you would have made great political writers at the beginning of the republic.  So much vituperative energy.  Here, it just seems gratuitous.

     
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    Re: Does bb cut cunningham in offseason? if he needs peds just to make it to this level of play, what will he be without it.

    vituperative....  hmmmm....  you dont see that word every day...   my guess would be that it means over the top ,  excessive, combative,   and after looking it up... abusive and bitter.

     
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    It's possible he used Adderall, the new popular PED. 

    The NFL has refered to Adderall as a PED since 2006 and the Nevada State Athletic Comission also referes to Adderall as a PED.  The NSAC is one of the top athletic comissions in the country.

     

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    tfb, adderall is used to mask testosterone and doesnt ake a player bigger and stronger.

    either way, any substance help he needs, which is not allowed, now he cant use. he was marginal with it, do we want him without it.

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    This is not true. Adderal is used for focus.

     
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    Again, I don't care what the NFL wants to classify it as. That's what you;re not getting. It's sort of like when a company drug tests you and up pops alchohol. If they have an anti-alcohol policy because, say they're Mormons or Baptists, that's they're right to creat that stigma and not hire you.

    They'd be morons to drop quality talent because of their religious beliefs, but still, it's their choice.

    Again, no amphetamine is proven to be a "performance enhancer".  It has more to do with cognitive reactions, which obviously vary from human to human, where a steroids are definitively prove to enhance muscle mass and transform the human body into something different, physically.

    So, Adderall, as a brand name designer drug, listed as a PED o defend the business owner, is just that: Protecting the brand.

    You still haven't answered why cocaine and it's ability to give you more energy, focus, staying up more, as an amphetamine, is not classifed as a "PED".

    I told you the answer above, but you still don't want to get it, apparently.

     

    Read this summary:

     

    Amphetamines may provide some minor (note the word "may"), short-term benefits. Current research shows that 10-30 mg methamphetamine may improve reaction time, and cognitive function, increase the feelings of alertness, decrease a sense of fatigue and increase euphoria. But this also came with a tendency to make more high-risk choices. The researches also stated that at a higher does, they expected subjects to experience agitation, an inability to focus attention on divided attention tasks, inattention, restlessness, motor excitation, increased reaction time, and time distortion, depressed reflexes, poor balance and coordination, and an inability to follow directions.

    One of the risks of even moderate amphetamine use in an athlete is that due to a distorted perception of pain or fatigue, he may ignore injury warning signs and play even when injured.

    Gee, do you think the last sentence has something to do with the concussions?

    LMAO

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    That has to be one of the worst posts you have posted here. 

    So what is your point?  Adderall is a PED!!!  Who cares what higher doeses might do, the fact that lower doses "may" (I am sure they use "may" instead of "will" because maybe not everyone will notice these effects) improve reaction time, and cognitive function, increase the feelings of alertness, decrease a sense of fatigue and increase euphoria. which it does otherwise people wouldn't be taking it.  So get over it, Adderall is a PED!!  We are not talking about cocain here, it is illegal to anyone and everyone, adderall isn't. 

    Now I am going to totall blow your mind.... Cannabis is a PED too!!

     
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    Re: Does bb cut cunningham in offseason? if he needs peds just to make it to this level of play, what will he be without it.

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    Adderall is illegal without a presciption just like cocaine.  Your statement makes no snse.

    Did you just ask me what my point was after all I just articulated?  Please tell me you, too, are't one of these people with reading comprehension defeciencies. You're better than that.

    Now cannabis is a PED? Are you kidding me here? You've gone off the deep end.

    Adderall is not a PED, nor is any amphetamine. I am over it because I know why they list name brand drugs as PEDs and no-name brand drugs in another category.

    Hey, did you ever tell us why you think it's ok for the NFL to flag Adderall and not HGH? lol

     

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    Dude, you are nuts.  You make such horrible arguments here, you look foolish.

    Ready for you mind to be blown here even more!!!

    Viagra isn't banned by the NFL but ExtenZe is, can you believe that?  So your argument on brand name stuff is not accurate.

    Adderall is a PED, per the NFL and Nevada State Athletic Commission as well as many more.

    And yes, Cannabis is a PED. Check this out..

    American judo competitor Nick Delpopolo was expelled from the Olympics for doping with cannabis.

    Cannabis is considered to be in violation of all three main disqualifying criteria. It violates the first (performance enhancement) because of its ability to decrease anxiety and fear, and potentially to improve some types of oxygenation and concentration.

    Since you seem to be illiterate, maybe you can have someone read this article to you...

    http://www.popsci.com/technology/article/2012-08/fyi-why-cannabis-olympic-banned-substances-list

     

    BOOM GOES THE DYNAMITE!!

    Checkmate Dude, you just got owned!!!

     
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    Re: Does bb cut cunningham in offseason? if he needs peds just to make it to this level of play, what will he be without it.

    Cunningham and just about every other player in the NFL have used a PED during their respective careers...Who gives a Rat's patoot! He finally started producing in a position where he took pressure off of the Fork so he could dominate! The answer to your question is no BB will not cut Cunningham and I wouldn't either.

     
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    Re: Does bb cut cunningham in offseason? if he needs peds just to make it to this level of play, what will he be without it.

    Hey Neal Page, first you argue with me and other posters about certain drugs being/not being PEDS and then once you are proved wrong by documentation you then turn to the organizations and start saying how wrong they are..... Do you not understand that it is you who is wrong?  I know your little pea sized brain has a problem admitting that or comprehending that but it's the truth.  It's okay to be wrong from time to time, just admit it.  At least you could make the argument that ok, these things are considered PEDs but you disagree with it because...., but instead you go about it saying me and other posters are wrong, but ya see we are actually right and have provided documentation to prove it, makes you look bad, dude!

     
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    Hey Neal Page, first you argue with me and other posters about certain drugs being/not being PEDS and then once you are proved wrong by documentation you then turn to the organizations and start saying how wrong they are..... Do you not understand that it is you who is wrong?  I know your little pea sized brain has a problem admitting that or comprehending that but it's the truth.  It's okay to be wrong from time to time, just admit it.  At least you could make the argument that ok, these things are considered PEDs but you disagree with it because...., but instead you go about it saying me and other posters are wrong, but ya see we are actually right and have provided documentation to prove it, makes you look bad, dude!

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    You've failed to comprehend my point from post 1, became combative because of it, and are still on this?  You're the one who looks foolish. I have no idea why you chose this particular topic to lash out.

    Just let it go. I know more about this than you. Period. I work in the industry, know the politics of it, know why things are the way they are, etc. Only children get all up in arms of Adderall. Or Rogie Goodell afraid of lawsuits.

    There are so many things you avoided when I asked you POINT BLANK, above,  it's not even funny. You ran from them, because if you answer them correctly, you look absolutely stupid.

    Plastering cherrypicked medical opinion on the mays or could bes of an amphetamine doesn't mean amphetamines are "PEDs". The NFL adopting one medical opinon to use it as a legal protection, doesn't mean it's a truth or a proven fact. 

    I am well aware Cunningham broke an NFL rule, but the drama queen approach by you and others over Adderall, going as far to pretend marijuana is also a PED?  Pathetic display.

    Every single opportunity I gave you to state a true premise and to counter my questions, you simply didn't do.   Try conceding a point. It won't hurt you.  Not learning from people who know how things work only makes YOU look bad.

    No one planet earth thinks marijuana gives a competitor on an field adavantage. You got more and more desperate with every post. lol

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    Well, it's pretty sad if you are in the field.  These drugs are PED's, they are recognized as PEDs by top organizations and sports bodies.  If you look at what effect the drug has you will see they are PED's.

    Also, as far as marijuana not being a PED, well think about it.  Sure it makes some people tired and lazy but take for instance the effect it also has on a persons anxiety and fear.  I helps eliminate that.  Would eliminating anxiety and fear be a performance enhancement?  Why YES IT WOULD!!  Therefore it is a PED.

    It's hard to follow your questions, you are all over the place, making crazy statements that are due to not wanting to admit you are wrong about PEDs.  But if you want me to address your questions, please post a list of numbered questions and I will answer.  I have some access to a couple athletic commissions and some contacts with some drug testing agencies so depending on the question some answers may take some time. So let's go... fire away!

     
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    Re: Does bb cut cunningham in offseason? if he needs peds just to make it to this level of play, what will he be without it.

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    1. What is your opinion of HGH not being tested for while Adderall is considered a PED?

     How hard is it to answer that question? Maybe if you weren't so hellbent on deflecting from the NFL's hypocrisy and agenda on this, you would have answered it by now?

    2. Why are only brand name amphetamines listed as PEDs, but street drugs like cocaine or crack, also amphetamines, not considered PEDs under NFL rules?

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    1.  Yes, HGH should be tested for and will be tested for all around sports, it's coming if it hasn't already started.  If a doctor legally perscribes adderall and you get approval then you are ok.  Same thing should be done with HGH as it is found that HGH has medical benefits.  It can be used to speed up healing of certain injuries.  It can also be used to enhance a persons strength and conditioning so yes, it is a PED and should be tested for.  But again, like Adderall it can be a medical treatment so if the person has a legal perscription for medical purposes then it should be approved.

    2.Last I checked crack and cocain are outlawed as a drug.  There are no medical benefits for crack and cocain and being an overall illegal drug why does it need to be included?  It's illegal! There are no exceptions or approvals for these drugs, I don't see why they need to be mentioned as a PED, they are illegal, period, end of story.

     
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    Re: Does bb cut cunningham in offseason? if he needs peds just to make it to this level of play, what will he be without it.

    Drugs are bad.

     

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