Re: Edelman is clutch and Edelman > Welker
posted at 12/1/2013 1:41 AM EST
In response to sportsbozo1's comment:
In response to TFB12's comment:
It was a slow afternoon at work today so I did a little research and scribbled some numbers down so I could share with you guys tonight.
Targets: Welker 95, Edelman 89
Receptions: Welker 65, Edelman 61
Welker 5th with 9
Edelman 34th with 4
Welker 26th with 679
Edelman 33rd with 610
Welker 22nd with 302
Edelman 38th with 251
The BIGGIE... 1st Downs
Welker 10th with 42 = 65% of receptions are for 1st downs
Edelman 42nd with 28 = 46% of receptions are for 1st downs
HOW IS THAT FOR CLUTCH!
I love this one...
Wide receivers are ranked according to DYAR, or Defense-adjusted Yards Above Replacement. This gives the value of the performance on plays where this WR caught the ball, compared to replacement level, adjusted for situation and opponent and then translated into yardage
The other statistic given is DVOA, or Defense-adjusted Value Over Average. This number represents value, per play, over an average WR in the same game situations. The more positive the DVOA rating, the better the player's performance.
The simple version: DYAR means a wide receiver with more total value. DVOA means a wide receiver with more value per play.
Welker DYAR = 181 Rank 16th, DVOA = 11.1% Rank 24th
Edelman DYAR = 53 Rank 51st, DVOA = -5.0% Rank 55th
Hmmm??? Might want to rethink your claims here guys.
[/QUOTE] I don't think Edelman is clutch but one thing is for sure he didn't drop the ball when his team needed a first down, oops that honor falls in WW's bad column, as when Peyton was driving in the OT WW dropped a sure first down ball while standing all alone. Which if I remember correctly is exactly where he was when we were in the process of winning a SB. Also Edelman wasn't supposed to replace WW, that job belonged to Amendola so the comparisons can't be made as he's missed as many games as he's played.
Well this conversation should probably be more Edelman>Amandola, then it would a little closer to reality but the apologist would never go for that cuz it would be another bad roster move by their savior. But as luck would have it, JE signed a cheapy.
Thank God (not BB), as they'd really would have been screwed, if he hadn't.