Re: Everybody knows it....
posted at 5/16/2013 12:49 PM EDT
In response to BassFishingII's comment:
Dude, last time:
The playcalling, subbing of the RBs and our predictability on offense is why the O Line looks worse in these big games than what their quality level is.
It is not a coincidence that good front 7s with a pass rush, since the pass first, finesse shotgun spread became more prevalent in 2005 for us, that this has been a problem.
It is now 2013 with a plethora (do you know what a plethora is? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mTUmczVdik )
People whine about how our run game stinks, Maroney, BJGE, Ridley, whoever else, but it's the lack of giving our O Line a chance. We don't establish a run much in first halves, our O Line is asked to pass protect over 40 times and it's simply too much pressure to do that every week against the elite Ds in the playoffs.
Brady has got to stop audibiling and being baited by defenses into the passing formations and pass plays.
Run the ball.
"Last time"? REALLLLLLLY?
And your insulting tone ... well, let's just say that in a real world war of brains I stack up pretty well against some hefty real world competition. I have nothing to fear from the likes of you...
How about choosing to either say your say or dont say anything. If you have some additional element to back up a position... fine.. if it is just restating the same thing already said but adding those comments that paint you to be "a little man", then just say nothing.
Do we have to go over every play of every playoff loss? And every play of every regular season loss v very strong Ds?
Maybe you WHINE. I do not. And I am not someone who thinks we do not have a good running game. I have certainly had a strong voice in praising the O line AND the current group of RBs.
One recurring difference between you and I is that you pick one thing and blame EVERYTHING on that. You tend to overdo it when picking reasons for the Pats success too. I recall you doing the VERY SAME THING when politics is the topic. Your flaw is to paint everything as good or bad, black and white, and unchangebale. It is as if a human being (in this case football players and coaches, in other cases people making political arguements as if it is religion) can eithe rdo no right or do no wrong. THey are either always good or bad. They cannot be a reason for success one day and a reason for failure another.
You have surprised me on more than one occasion where you prove the above wrong in replying to me with a reasonable tone and reasonable logic. But then, you personify my point here - you are neither always right nor always wrong. SO IT IS with the human race (suggestion: learn that lesson).
In this case I will not argue that you cant find fault in play calling now and again. Isnt that true for EVERY TEAM and EVERY QB and EVERY OC? Just like the arguement that BB drafts well - but he gets SOME wrong - like other human beings! THe shock of it!
So - to get this back on reasonable footing (you can see I dont take the rhetoric thrown down gladly): yes there has been bad play calling at moments. But that is not why, FOR EXAMPLE, the O line had their hands full for about 54 minutes or so of 2007 SB and much of the last SB loss as well. And they were not able to PUSH AROUND front 7s like the Ravens in crunch time.
Again, I am NOT minimizing the FACT that the O line is one of the true strengths of the team. But it is not DOMINANT against THE BEST in THE BIGGEST games.
Myy criticsm is essentially that there are reasons why the O has REGULARLY underperformed in these big games (this does not let the D off the hook guys... it can be true AT THE SAME TIME... get it?). I'm sorry but it is not the play calling in as much as the play calling is not significantly - mathematically significantly - skewed from the rest of their body of work. A bad play by TB or a dropped pass by Welker can make a world of difference. So can better blocking and so a play that could have given TB, Welker, Ridley, etc, a chance to shine and make a big play gets lost as a failed, forgetable play. In short the TEAM is to blame because they have underperformed as a TEAM. But the O line COULD be ONE WAY to put the team over the top. Not the only way. They could win it with this O line. THey could also win it with TB.. and could have with Welker.... But they needed something more than they had. D... sure.. or an O that played UP to the big moment, not down.
So my "criticism" of a VERY good O line is RELATIVE.
I will not end this with the same tone you took.