Re: Fire Bill O'Brien!
posted at 12/15/2011 12:20 PM EST
In Response to Re: Fire Bill O'Brien!
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Fire Bill O'Brien! : You should look at the play again Spinboy. Both the receiver and the DB leave their feet to leap to the ball moving horizontally. Actually Underwood jumps first and just miscalculates where the DB is and the guy takes it from him without as much as a whimper. He had every opportunity to come to the ball before he jumped and at least could have broken it up. He could have just grabbed the DB before he jumped and took the penalty and we then could still kick a FG. You and Underwood need to learn the game.
Posted by BabeParilli[/QUOTE]
Uhhh..."spin"-meister was a case of poetic license. You know? I don't think you are stupid, so I don't think I have to be so literal.
Babe, it is clear that Rusty knows a heck of a lot more about football than you. Really, he knows more than most of us here. I haven't always agreed with him all the time, but he has been pretty rock solid all this season.
In this case, you are completely missing two key points germane to this thread:
1) Brady should never have thrown that pass, regardless of Underwood's less-than-stellar attempt to fight for the ball. It was a really, really bad pass in every regard. I am not going to repeat here why, step-by-step.
2) It was Brady that unleashed a torrent of bile at OB first, when it appeared that all OB first said to Brady was to lay-off Underwood, "It was your bad pass." OB was not hot at that point. Suddenly, Brady responds with a torrent of swearing and screaming. Thus OB then responded to Brady in kind, and when Brady persisted, OB took it to another level.
I've seen a lot of fights in clubs in Providence and Gainesville. Hundreds. One thing I have noticed is that the way the person intervening intervenes bears no determination of who was the offending party of the combatants, so drop the "Hoyer had to block OB = OB was wrong" argument. It has no basis in fact. Just your opinion and nothing more.
A lot of times, the person more inflamed has a better reason to be more inflamed, and I think this was a case of that, IMO. Without audio, you, me, Rusty, whoever - we don't really know. But stop changing the facts of what happened to fit your argument. That is classic "spin".