Hard times for BB.

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    Re: Hard times for BB.

    Leon, you accept mediocrity with the best of them, being a Jets fan.

     
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    Three Conference Championships and 2 SBs lost in the last 8 seasons that without past glory he would be considered an epic fail.

    RESPONSE: Absurd! BB's record over the past 8 years are anything but an"epic failure". The Pats' failures to win a championship are due to BB the GM, not BB the Coach.

    Still reviled over spygate and forever labeled a cheater by many.

    RESPONSE: Nonsense. Only haters in the media and complete idiots believe that "spygate" was a big deal. Guy like Bil Parcells, Jimmy Johnson, and Bill Cowher have helped to show "spygate" for what it really was...a NY media hatchet job.

    Two longtime coaches gone in as many days.

    RESPONSE: Scar was 106 years old? Why is it a negative on BB that he decided to retire? Who knows why Pepper steppd down.

    Still standing in the shadow of acquiring a now accused murderer.

    RESPONSE: You're starting to sound like Rusty.

    Being mocked far and wide for statements made about the Welker hit.

    RESPONSE: The haters in the media are going to do tht. Who cares! I think that BB was right...it was a cheap-shot by Welker. Was it the worst I've ever seen? No...but a cheap-shot nonetheless.

    Then after he slams Welker, Brady makes it a point to say what a good friend Wes is.

    RESPONSE: And your point is?

    Things have taken a dramatic turn for BB since the glory days of 2001-2004.

    RESPONSE: Don't want to shock you...but Brady has been under a lot of criticism, too. So what? What BB and Brady have done in this salary cap era with the Patriots has been incredible.

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    Re: Hard times for BB.

    Great Coach.

    Below Average GM

    It seems like the Patriots are undermanned and lack enough skill position players.

    Last time BB drafted an elite pro-bowl WR was never!

    Last time BB drafted an elite CB was  Asante Samuel in 2003.

    Last time BB drafted an elite Safety was never.

    We haven't had a pass rush since 2007.

    The OLINE and DLINE gets dominated in every postseason since 2005.

     

    It is hard to understand how a team can be so bad drafting at key positions. It is very hard to draft almost a dozen WR and have them all be busts. Same thing with CBs and Safeties.  We might as well bring someone in on draft day who has no clue about football and just get them to pick random WR's , S and CB's in the draft. I bet we would have a higher chance of finally hitting on one.

    Please do not use injury as excuse.  Packers in 2010 had more injuries and still won the SB. Giants in 2011 were missing their top 5 CB's and still won the SB. Ravens last year were missing their best CB and didnt collapse like a house of cards.  

    Broncos this year lost their best pass rusher and best CB.  Seahawks are depleted on offense without Harvin and still manage to score. 

     
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    Three Conference Championships and 2 SBs lost in the last 8 seasons that without past glory he would be considered an epic fail.

    Still reviled over spygate and forever labeled a cheater by many.

    Two longtime coaches gone in as many days.

    Still standing in the shadow of acquiring a now accused murderer.

    Being mocked far and wide for statements made about the Welker hit.

    Then after he slams Welker, Brady makes it a point to say what a good friend Wes is.

     

    Things have taken a dramatic turn for BB since the glory days of 2001-2004.

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    Have a slice of Humble Pie,  BB... 

     
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    More SB appearances since 2001 than any other team in the league and making the playoffs year after year.  Recognizing effectiveness is hardly being an apologist. 

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    I have one problem with this. When NY made the AFC championship game 2 years in a row many posters here thought it was a funny joke. Now that the Patriots have made it 3 years in a row and come away with nothing its somehow an accomplishment?

    Idk about you but I am not happy with making it this far and blowing it every year. Its a complete waste of the best HC and QB combo of all time because the GM is bringing in JAGs like Donald Jones and Michael Jenkins in the offseason and reaching big time on a project like Tavon Wilson in the draft.

    I, as well as many others, am tired of it. Sorry if you don't like it but you'll have to learn to deal with it if you're going to keep posting here.

     
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    Three Conference Championships and 2 SBs lost in the last 8 seasons that without past glory he would be considered an epic fail.

    Still reviled over spygate and forever labeled a cheater by many.

    Two longtime coaches gone in as many days.

    Still standing in the shadow of acquiring a now accused murderer.

    Being mocked far and wide for statements made about the Welker hit.

    Then after he slams Welker, Brady makes it a point to say what a good friend Wes is.

     

    Things have taken a dramatic turn for BB since the glory days of 2001-2004.

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    Have a slice of Humble Pie,  BB... 

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    When did you become a troll? Within the last 72 hours or so?

    COTY of the candidate and RUNAWAY Exec of the Year w/Caserio.  

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    All these items listed would force anyone to reflect seriously and take a hard look at all the reasons.  Starting with himself.

     
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    Babe I think there is some good news to come out of this. 

    Belichick seemed particularly humbled at the postgame press conference. I think he realized that his team was simply outmatched talent wise in significant areas. He realizes that while injuries played a part, he can't simply tag this year's loss on tough luck and players going down. Seeing his guys get physically dominated helped him to realize even though he is smarter at "coaching 'em up" than the guy across from him, that in the heart of the postseason, it's not enough. 

    He realizes that when the other team holds the ball for most of the game, he's not going to win. 

    I believe he will make some changes on his personnel philosophy as a result. 

    Fortunately, unlike his apologists in here who excuse his GM shortcomings, Belichick is not above reflection and change. And I believe he will change and that the roster we see on opening day next year will reflect those changes. This Welker thing is going to eat at him in the best way possible. Belichick is a champion and he won't take this lying down.

     

     

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    He hasn't gotten the team building job done. Dramatic changes are in order or the result will not change. Epic Fails.

    I honestly don't think he will change a thing, because he is too much of a control freak and psychologically can't handle it.

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    Did we go 2 and 14 this year? We are a pretty good team. You just don't have a leg to stand on with your argument against BB.

     
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    More SB appearances since 2001 than any other team in the league and making the playoffs year after year.  Recognizing effectiveness is hardly being an apologist. 

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    I have one problem with this. When NY made the AFC championship game 2 years in a row many posters here thought it was a funny joke. Now that the Patriots have made it 3 years in a row and come away with nothing its somehow an accomplishment?

    Idk about you but I am not happy with making it this far and blowing it every year. Its a complete waste of the best HC and QB combo of all time because the GM is bringing in JAGs like Donald Jones and Michael Jenkins in the offseason and reaching big time on a project like Tavon Wilson in the draft.

    I, as well as many others, am tired of it. Sorry if you don't like it but you'll have to learn to deal with it if you're going to keep posting here.

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    Out of context you can make any stat say anything you wish.  The AFCCG 3 years running by itself doesn't really mean much.  Sustained excellence over the past decade plus does.

     
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    When did you become a troll? Within the last 72 hours or so?

    COTY of the candidate and RUNAWAY Exec of the Year w/Caserio.  

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    How is he the runaway executive of the year? What big impact players did he bring in this year that led to yet another playoff debacle?? Your pantstent for this guy is so creepy.

     
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    Great Coach.

    Below Average GM

    It seems like the Patriots are undermanned and lack enough skill position players.

    Last time BB drafted an elite pro-bowl WR was never!

    Last time BB drafted an elite CB was  Asante Samuel in 2003.

    Last time BB drafted an elite Safety was never.

    We haven't had a pass rush since 2007.

    The OLINE and DLINE gets dominated in every postseason since 2005.

     

    It is hard to understand how a team can be so bad drafting at key positions. It is very hard to draft almost a dozen WR and have them all be busts. Same thing with CBs and Safeties.  We might as well bring someone in on draft day who has no clue about football and just get them to pick random WR's , S and CB's in the draft. I bet we would have a higher chance of finally hitting on one.

    Please do not use injury as excuse.  Packers in 2010 had more injuries and still won the SB. Giants in 2011 were missing their top 5 CB's and still won the SB. Ravens last year were missing their best CB and didnt collapse like a house of cards.  

    Broncos this year lost their best pass rusher and best CB.  Seahawks are depleted on offense without Harvin and still manage to score. 

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    The Packers did not lose their entire starting middle D nor did they lose their best CB that year in the NFC Title game. Nope, no they didn't.

    None of those examples come close to the sheer volume and quality of injuries to this team.

    Even the injuries that aren't even being talked about (Dennard knee procedure a month ago and shoulder), are ignored to the volume of the other key injuries.

    Dennard, Ryan look like good CBs to me. Harmon looked good as a rookie when he played.

    Thompkins and Dobson both outprouded Branch's and Givens;s rookies years in 2002.

    So, enough with this BB can't draft.  NE has had the best drafts in the NFL since 2010, overall. Best yields by a mile, kid.

    Ya see that avatar of yours?  His name is Tom Brady, and that guy has SUCKED or been MEDIOCRE in the playoffs since 2005. He has not strung together two good playoff games back to since 2004.

    His last 4 AFC Title games have either been abysmal or mediocre at best.  That doesn't propel a team into a SB.

    The Ravens didn't collapse like a house of cards because Denver's Safety fell down on a Hail Mary and Joe Flacco is now better than Tom Brady.    Flacco had 12 TDs and 0 INTs in last year's postseason.

    QB and offensive league. Offense wins champpionships and medicore QBs aren't good enough.

    Note how you say "since 2005"...Gee, when did Brady and McDaniels employ this shotgun spread crap they can't wait to use every week? Hmmmm?

    Coincidence? NOPE!  FACT

    Brady.

    "I prefer the shotgun spread." 2010, WEEI

    Hard times for Brady. Yes, oh yes they are.

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    WRONG troll girl.

    Defenses or lack of them win/lose championships.

    Defenses that give up game losing drives lose championships

    Defenses that can't get off the field limiting Offenses possessions, therefore plays therefore scores, lose championships.

    Defenses that allow score after score, lose games.  2nd half of 2011, 75%, 2nd half of 2013, 100%.  100% red zone completions in 2012.  How pathetic is that?

    You may as well just allow those teams to go out and score immediately on their drives, at least it would save time and get the back to the O.  What a pathetic waste!

    Been this way since 2006.

    Your pathetic agenda is easily smashed time and time again.

    Your shotgun premise is the most ridiculous thing EVER argued.

    Offensive lines PREFER to run block.   Do you think BB gives a flying flip?

    Some offensive notes from the postseason: The Patriots ran 73 plays against the Colts and 56 against the Broncos — the latter was the lowest total of the year for the New England offense. (The previous low was the 60 in an Oct. 6 loss to the Bengals.). … The Patriots ran 129 offensive plays in the 2013 postseason, and setting aside one kneeldown for Brady, eight of them were for negative yardage: four sacks of Brady, two negative runs for Blount (both against Indy), and one negative run each from Vereen (against Indy) and Rldley (against Denver). … In the postseason, 49 of their 129 snaps came in the shotgun (19 of the 73 against Indy, and 30 of the 56 against Denver). That’s a rate of 38 percent, slightly below their rate of 42 percent over the course of the regular season. (However, it’s worth mentioning that most of the shotgun sets for the Patriots against the Broncos came in the second half after New England fell behind by multiple scores and needed to step up the pace to try and get back into the game.) … In the two playoff games, the Patriots went no huddle on a total of four of their 129 offensive snaps (once against Denver and three times against Indy), a rate of 3 percent. That’s down from 11 percent over the course of the regular season.

    The limited snaps on offense were directly related to the D's inability to stop 3rd downs,

    resulting in lower possessions, lower plays, and lower score.

    Suck on that, if you even understand it.

    Failing Defense since 2006, means failing GM/coach for the same period.

    He made this cow pie.  His recipe, his ingredients, he's the cook. 

    Live with it, team failure, starting at the TOP and starting at the pathetic Defensive ToP.

     
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    Re: Hard times for BB.

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    Oh, I see, Bustchise.

    This team lost 4 Pro Bowlers off the roster, 5 if you want to count Hernandez's situation.

    2 of the Pro Bowlers are right down the middle of the defense.  

    Ya with me, Bustchise?

    Logan Ryan>Dee Milliner - Most INTs on the team.

    Chris Jones = Sheldon Richardson production UDFA

    Ryan Allen = SUPERB Punter for a rookie UDFA

    Thompkins = Blew away David Given's 2002 rookie year production UDFA

    Dobson = Equaled Deion Branch 2002 rookie production

    Josh Kline = Very good interior lineman UDFA

    Harmon = Solid swing Safety work 

    Vellano = Solid DT, ideal as a spot player, UDFA

    Collins = Solid start, exploded in the postseason

    Am I forgetting anyone??  LMAO

    This is clearly one of the best front to back exhibitions of scouting for talent in any one given year by any GM in this league.

    TB just hired Jason Licht, Miami wants Caserio, and these are all BB people.

    I go by facts, but your jealousy is a delight, Bustchise.

     

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    Cool, a bunch of JAGs. Where is the play maker on your list? BB did not bring in one new face that could make a difference in games. He brought in a bunch of backups.

    How did Ryan fare against Denver? Allen was the only player on your list to do anything in that game and the defense couldn't do anything with the great field position after his first two booming punts. I'll give you Collins too because he looks like a good player.

    Vellano? LMAO! He's a fine emergency depth guy but FYI, he started for more than half the year. Sorry, that is NOT runaway exec of the year regardless of who got hurt. Why would you go into a season with no depth at a position that is constantly beat up? I hate to break it to you but even if Wilfork was playing they weren't going to establish a pass rush. Its the same vanishing act this defense has pulled in all the big games. Bring in a pass rush specialist opposite Jones, not 40 year old Andre Carter.

    Also, even if I wasn't a Patriots fan, what would I be jealous of? Not winning the Super Bowl?

     
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    Re: Hard times for BB.

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    Oh, I see, Bustchise.

    This team lost 4 Pro Bowlers off the roster, 5 if you want to count Hernandez's situation.

    2 of the Pro Bowlers are right down the middle of the defense.  

    Ya with me, Bustchise?

    Logan Ryan>Dee Milliner - Most INTs on the team.

    Chris Jones = Sheldon Richardson production UDFA

    Ryan Allen = SUPERB Punter for a rookie UDFA

    Thompkins = Blew away David Given's 2002 rookie year production UDFA

    Dobson = Equaled Deion Branch 2002 rookie production

    Josh Kline = Very good interior lineman UDFA

    Harmon = Solid swing Safety work 

    Vellano = Solid DT, ideal as a spot player, UDFA

    Collins = Solid start, exploded in the postseason

    Am I forgetting anyone??  LMAO

    This is clearly one of the best front to back exhibitions of scouting for talent in any one given year by any GM in this league.

    TB just hired Jason Licht, Miami wants Caserio, and these are all BB people.

    I go by facts, but your jealousy is a delight, Bustchise.

     

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    Cool, a bunch of JAGs. Where is the play maker on your list? BB did not bring in one new face that could make a difference in games. He brought in a bunch of backups.

    How did Ryan fare against Denver? Allen was the only player on your list to do anything in that game and the defense couldn't do anything with the great field position after his first two booming punts. I'll give you Collins too because he looks like a good player.

    Vellano? LMAO! He's a fine emergency depth guy but FYI, he started for more than half the year. Sorry, that is NOT runaway exec of the year regardless of who got hurt. Why would you go into a season with no depth at a position that is constantly beat up? I hate to break it to you but even if Wilfork was playing they weren't going to establish a pass rush. Its the same vanishing act this defense has pulled in all the big games. Bring in a pass rush specialist opposite Jones, not 40 year old Andre Carter.

    Also, even if I wasn't a Patriots fan, what would I be jealous of? Not winning the Super Bowl?

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    Queenie thinks people are jealous of the Pats postseason failures...yes, he is not very bright.

     
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    Logan Ryan, Thompkins, Dobson, Collins?  Thompkins won a game for us on the last play of the game this year.

    Collins proved ready to go by mid/late season. Logan Ryan led the team in INTs.

    They had all kinds of playmakers in this year's draft.

    That's correct, Bustchise.  Vellano was never meant to start, nor was Jones, but each clearly showed value. They're also UDFAs.   Super balance across the overall yield all over the roster.

    You aren't a Patriots fan, Bustchise.

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    Please, Brady won that game against the Saints. Thompkins made a great catch and that was his season right there.

    Collins barely did a thing until the Indy game. And yes, I said he looks like he's going to be a player. Did Dobson make any big plays other than that night game against the Jets early on? How many balls did he drop this year?

    Runaway exec of the year for bringing in these guys?? Ha you're absolutely blinded by your BB pantstent.

     
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    Hard times, indeed. All those holes to fill and in the midst of cap hell. Good thing wilson anx kelley are locked up to long term deals. 

     
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    Oh, I see, Bustchise.

    This team lost 4 Pro Bowlers off the roster, 5 if you want to count Hernandez's situation.

    2 of the Pro Bowlers are right down the middle of the defense.  

    Ya with me, Bustchise?

    Logan Ryan>Dee Milliner - Most INTs on the team.

    Chris Jones = Sheldon Richardson production UDFA

    Ryan Allen = SUPERB Punter for a rookie UDFA

    Thompkins = Blew away David Given's 2002 rookie year production UDFA

    Dobson = Equaled Deion Branch 2002 rookie production

    Josh Kline = Very good interior lineman UDFA

    Harmon = Solid swing Safety work 

    Vellano = Solid DT, ideal as a spot player, UDFA

    Collins = Solid start, exploded in the postseason

    Am I forgetting anyone??  LMAO

    This is clearly one of the best front to back exhibitions of scouting for talent in any one given year by any GM in this league.

    TB just hired Jason Licht, Miami wants Caserio, and these are all BB people.

    I go by facts, but your jealousy is a delight, Bustchise.

     

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    Cool, a bunch of JAGs. Where is the play maker on your list? BB did not bring in one new face that could make a difference in games. He brought in a bunch of backups.

    How did Ryan fare against Denver? Allen was the only player on your list to do anything in that game and the defense couldn't do anything with the great field position after his first two booming punts. I'll give you Collins too because he looks like a good player.

    Vellano? LMAO! He's a fine emergency depth guy but FYI, he started for more than half the year. Sorry, that is NOT runaway exec of the year regardless of who got hurt. Why would you go into a season with no depth at a position that is constantly beat up? I hate to break it to you but even if Wilfork was playing they weren't going to establish a pass rush. Its the same vanishing act this defense has pulled in all the big games. Bring in a pass rush specialist opposite Jones, not 40 year old Andre Carter.

    Also, even if I wasn't a Patriots fan, what would I be jealous of? Not winning the Super Bowl?

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    Logan Ryan, Thompkins, Dobson, Collins?  Thompkins won a game for us on the last play of the game this year.

    Collins proved ready to go by mid/late season. Logan Ryan led the team in INTs.

    They had all kinds of playmakers in this year's draft.

    That's correct, Bustchise.  Vellano was never meant to start, nor was Jones, but each clearly showed value. They're also UDFAs.   Super balance across the overall yield all over the roster.

    You aren't a Patriots fan, Bustchise.

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    Hey queenie. Working from home today? You were up pretty late posting on BDC last night. You must be tired. Bwahahahahaha!

     
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    Yep. BB has been "taken to the cleaners" in the playoffs recently by coaches he is supposed to be better than (Rex Ryan, Tom Coughlin, John Fox...I think an argument could be made that Harbaugh is about equal, give or take a little).

    And let's not forget about all those failed acquisitions as a GM!

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    I think his record of fails for many years now is a direct result of the players he has provided himself.

    Over those 8 years he has built defenses that were atrocious for half of that period. It would be hard to find any other elite QB in Brady's class who has had so few top caliber offensive weapons to work with as well.

     

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    5 SB apperances 8 AFC title games undefeated reg season, most regular season wins since 2001

    The only EPIC FAIL here is Babe's parents... :)

     

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    Yeah, losing the big games is considered great success. Moron. Ignored.

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    I love how if you dare disagree with Babe he blocks you. He is probably the worst human being on this board because he will only surround himself with people that tell him he is right. He might have more people blocked than the rest of BDC combined. He is so pitiful he is sad.

     
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