Hypothetical Question regarding the draft in 2012

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    Hypothetical Question regarding the draft in 2012

    If a team that doesnt need a QB, like the Rams got the #1 pick and we traded both our #1s and our 2nd rder and took Luck, how would it make you feel as a pats fan? 
     
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    it wouldnt be enough.
    we need top players on defense and wr to win a super bowl.
    not another qb. if our team was elite now, sure having luck on the bench would be fine, however that wont be enough to land that pick imo.
    it's gonna be a crazy deal for that pick.
     
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    Assuming the team at #1 accepts that deal (which is questionable), I'd feel pretty good as it would likely signal the trading of Hoyer and/or Mallet for as 2nd/3rd rounder or two this year and they can always trade into the back end of Rd 1 again this year if they want to.

    You're now set up longterm at the QB position with another face of the franchise type and should be able to maintain continuity and success.
     
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    I think we should trade the Saints pick we got again. We lost value on it and should trade it into next year. Pick a more worthy partner though * someone that stinks*
     
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    [QUOTE]If a team that doesnt need a QB, like the Rams got the #1 pick and we traded both our #1s and our 2nd rder and took Luck, how would it make you feel as a pats fan? 
    Posted by MordecaiBloodmoon[/QUOTE]

    Not crazy if we thought Luck has far better potential compared to Mallet (not sure that is the case) ... but would rather use our 2 firsts or a first and a second to move up from where we are and grab a stud defensive player instead. Probably in the 8-15 range would do it.
     
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    The Colts, if they still get the number one pick, will trade it off to a team who also despeartely needs a QB, for a bundle of future picks, and they will get the next best available QB in the draft to bring along....
     
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    I would feel like they just wasted the draft.
     
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    I believe it would be one of the stupidest moves in years....we got Brady for 3 more years & Mallet to grow & learn our system & under Bradys' tutaledge....Mallett was considered 1st round talent & most pro ready when drafted with only character issues as his red flag...Mallett is still very young so under the circumstances he fallen into I believe he will mature & flourish in the Pats system...

    The Pats need to draft defensive players & maybe a center & a stud WR for the future....
     
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    In Response to Hypothetical Question regarding the draft in 2012:
    [QUOTE]If a team that doesnt need a QB, like the Rams got the #1 pick and we traded both our #1s and our 2nd rder and took Luck, how would it make you feel as a pats fan? 
    Posted by MordecaiBloodmoon[/QUOTE]

    we have quality backups, TB has at least 3 years left in him-by tehn we can find a new franchise QB. we need our picks to fix our secondary and d-line
     
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    why would anyone even think up such a stupid post like this ?
     
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    Why waste a pick on Luck. We have an heir apparent in Mallett. Use the draft picks to get better on D, a WR, or O-Line.  

    Mallett was considered by many to be the best QB in the 2011 draft. We have the luxury of sitting him for three years ala Rogers. 

    BB, with time, can make a silk purse out of a sow's ear.  Give him time with Mallett. 
     
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    In Response to Hypothetical Question regarding the draft in 2012:
    [QUOTE]If a team that doesnt need a QB, like the Rams got the #1 pick and we traded both our #1s and our 2nd rder and took Luck, how would it make you feel as a pats fan? 
    Posted by MordecaiBloodmoon[/QUOTE]

    Please NO, NO, NO!!!!  Brady is at his prime.  Barring an injury, I see him slipping to being "only" an exceptional QB in another five years or so.  Luck would not stick around for that long.  No, the time to start grooming Brady's replacement is at least three years away.

    Besides that, we need a lot of help on defense and we could do with a real WR (not that it really hurts Brady not having one).  Also, a top-notch RB wouldn't hurt any.
     
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    It would be insane.  Brady is a once in a lifetime QB who doesn't have many years left.  BB doesn't have to go all in by any means (he obviously hasn't to this point), but to spend those kind of resources on something for post-Brady when a good draft or 2 could help win a few more SB's before TB hangs it up would be just wrong imo.
     
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    good thought...  he is touted but so was ryan leaf and rick mirer...
    and then brady wasnt....

    saftey.....rush end,  corner...   good point on the saints pick too... we will do something along those lines...but thee is always "good value" at the end of the first...    no really!
     
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    What evidence is there to suggest Belichick would even consider doing something so radical?  If he moves up even a few spots in a round it's considered earth shattering news because that means he REALLY wants a guy bad( Gronk in '10, C. Jackson in '06, D. Graham in '02).  If anything, I think Belichick is more inclined to trade out of the first round entirely with both of the 1st rounders. 

    However, I do feel that Belichick should have more of a sense of urgency in these last few drafts of Brady's career.  If that means targeting a couple guys he thinks can have an immediate impact than I'm all for it.  Even if they don't pan out like he'd expected, you're paying them less under the new CBA and you still might get another team interested in trading a mid round pick for them down the road. 
     
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    pi$$ed

    i do not believe in putting our all your eggs in one basket.
     
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    The Krafts have assembled the best talent scouting group in the NFL.  These people are second-round and lower specialists.  They pull up miracles (more often than not!) like Gronkowski, Welker, Wilfork, Brady, Cassel, Mayo, McCourty was Rookie of the Year last year, Marcus Cannon seems to be a diamond in the rough, Solder seems to be an ok tight end for a tackle. 

    They aren't going to spend all of their ammo on one guy that they don't need, because good QBs seem to fall into their fingers anyway. 
     
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    I'll take Mallett in the 3rd Round because he was a stupid kid arrested for public intoxication and people were spooked.  He is Ben Rapistburger size with a cannon arm and solid stats.

    Matt Cassall didn't start one game in college. QB's come from unusual places beyond the first round... I'd rather have Brady, Mallett and two #1 picks this draft anytime.
     
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    Just this once, I would just like to use all 3 picks on 3 solid defensive players with proven production at major college programs.

    But...we'll probably trade those 3 picks for 5 picks next year.
     
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    I would be ticked to see them give up what it would take to get a kid that has never played a snap in the NFL, when they have one of the best to ever play, who shows no signs of slowing down or quitting any time soon.
     
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    In Response to Re: Hypothetical Question regarding the draft in 2012:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Hypothetical Question regarding the draft in 2012 : Not crazy if we thought Luck has far better potential compared to Mallet (not sure that is the case) ... but would rather use our 2 firsts or a first and a second to move up from where we are and grab a stud defensive player instead. Probably in the 8-15 range would do it.
    Posted by mbear3915[/QUOTE]

    with you on the defensive player, though not to trade 2 picks this year, just our pick plus trade a pick from next year. we need all our top 4 picks this year (and last).

    however we dont have a choice (IE to go for the luck pick), whoever has #1 will want 3  1's and maybe a 2nd OR 4  1's (not to mention from someone just behind them in the draft, not someone at the bottom and who perennially pick at near the bottom. so simply fa-get-about-it
     
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    [QUOTE]The Colts, if they still get the number one pick, will trade it off to a team who also despeartely needs a QB, for a bundle of future picks, and they will get the next best available QB in the draft to bring along....
    Posted by James-B[/QUOTE]

    indy is saying they will keep it the pick and that they can have luck behind manning, so if they ask luck and he says he is willing to sit 2-3 years, i think they do just that.

    they havent exactly been the smartest organization in the draft lately.
    (ie they could really build up their team wiht the picks they could get.

    however as ive pointed out in another thread ("colts out of luck"). they are playing to win. the coach who wants his job and the players, especially those at the end of their contracts and the qb who may be playing for a job elsewhere. they are playing better than jacksonville. if they bring it which i expect, they will play themselves out of the #1 pick.
     
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    [QUOTE]I believe it would be one of the stupidest moves in years....we got Brady for 3 more years & Mallet to grow & learn our system & under Bradys' tutaledge....Mallett was considered 1st round talent & most pro ready when drafted with only character issues as his red flag...Mallett is still very young so under the circumstances he fallen into I believe he will mature & flourish in the Pats system... The Pats need to draft defensive players & maybe a center & a stud WR for the future....
    Posted by dmcpatsfan[/QUOTE]

    dmc, et al,
    of the 2 of course i would take luck as our backup (over mallet). even if we could land the luck pick(whihc we cannot as i suggest above), i wouldnt sacrifice our last attempts to win a super bowl with brady by using the picks wisely versus trading for andrew luck to gain an opportunity to have one of the better qbs in the league after brady.
        go for 2 of the next 3 superbowls.  ( going for 2 of the next 3s is what we should have done last year in the draft by drafting dominant defensive players in round 1).
     
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    Posted by ShiningWizard[/QUOTE]


    shining,
    re:

     What evidence is there to suggest Belichick would even consider doing something so radical?  If he moves up even a few spots in a round it's considered earth shattering news because that means he REALLY wants a guy bad( Gronk in '10, C. Jackson in '06, D. Graham in '02).  If anything, I think Belichick is more inclined to trade out of the first round entirely with both of the 1st rounders. 

    exactly!

    However, I do feel that Belichick should have more of a sense of urgency in these last few drafts of Brady's career.  If that means targeting a couple guys he thinks can have an immediate impact than I'm all for it.  Even if they don't pan out like he'd expected, you're paying them less under the new CBA and you still might get another team interested in trading a mid round pick for them down the road.

    shining were you around last year?
    i made a plea for this before the draft with a thorough outline, team eval and thought process. only those who hated it reponded for ther most part. dont remember anyone agreeing.

    peace

    brd/bred
     
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    [QUOTE]I'll take Mallett in the 3rd Round because he was a stupid kid arrested for public intoxication and people were spooked.  He is Ben Rapistburger size with a cannon arm and solid stats. Matt Cassall didn't start one game in college. QB's come from unusual places beyond the first round... I'd rather have Brady, Mallett and two #1 picks this draft anytime.
    Posted by wozzy[/QUOTE]

    you mean 4 #1's and tehy wont even be high enough in th edraft for the #1 team to accept that. but your point is well taken
     

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