Re: Idiotic clock management
posted at 12/12/2011 12:26 PM EST
In Response to Re: Idiotic clock management
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Idiotic clock management : Are you expecting great D from Slater, an injured McCourty and Edelman? Look, I don't have nary a clue why Slater is at Safety other than Nate JOnes is new and maybe can;'t be trusted, etc, but acting like this is what the D will be like in January is just being over the top. We also got blasted again with TOP, partially due to the D's fault and partially due to a crappy offense with no real momentum at times. Translation? The D is in worse shape than our offense from a personnel standpoint. I don't really see these facts as BS. It's just the truth. If we are seeing some poor performances down the stretch with Chung and Spikes back, with a 4-3 Under D, then yeah, I am right there with you. And I don't excuse some of the poor plays on D either. They were poor at times. I'd like to see McCOurty ride the pine a bit here down the stretch until he can prove he's healthy and performing up to par.
Posted by RidingWithTheKingII[/QUOTE]
King other then Chung I'd say that Slater's been our best S this year. You don't find that sad in the least bit?
Edelman's actually been one of our best CB's too. Blame injures all you want but those who are currently hurt, I'm not sure how much they'd improve the team that much if they were healthy.
Add Chung and Spikes how much does that improve the secondary honestly? Spikes is great against the run and will get some pressure on QB's with stints but does he make an immediate impact on the pass defense? Chung, when he was in the starting rotation our secondary was better, this can't be debated but how much better were they honestly? There were less players breaking out of tackles for big gains, that's for sure but they were still catching balls a majority of the time. What Chung primely brings is the ability to cover TE's that our LB's don't provide and to stop plays in front of him with solid tackling. But, neither really prevents the catches just limits the damage.
If you think the secondary is going to drastically improve with just the addition of Chung and Spikes then I think you are reaching here.
Now, with the injury situation the Pats put themselves in this position to begin with. I won't blame injures if the players that are injured aren't very good to begin with. We always point to the depth of the Pats and how we use to just plug players in because we had great depth well lets examine that for a second. Brown, Barrett, Inhedigbo would you say anyone of them were critical loses when they were/get injured? They have such a low impact that Slater is a better S and Jones provided just as much as any of them off the street.
With McCourty he wasn't playing great before the injury so don't blame the injury on his poor performance. That's a cop out at this point. Then they were counting on Ras in pre-season to be a starter. Ras was known to have a rash of injures in college to his lower body. If you are counting on him being a starter you better have good depth behind him, they didn't provide that depth and the worst case happened.
This past off-season they should have known what we all saw at practice, that this secondary wasn't improving and the players they kept were a major gamble. That's one thing I hold against BB is that he has this notion that he can take anyone's cast off and turn them into starters. Well that's proven to not be true. We are in this situation because he wouldn't spend a little extra money to sign a S like Goldson or to go out and get decent CB depth instead of the UDFA or other teams cast-offs.
Now they can still improve but unless it's a drastic improvement between now and the playoffs I don't know if we can bet a team with a good O unless our O is perfect.