Re: Irsay Frustrated with Manning
posted at 3/23/2011 12:16 AM EDT
In Response to Re: Irsay Frustrated with Manning
[QUOTE]Z - you are such a typical acedemic snob, its pathetic. but if that's what validates you, have at it. I am not at all upset with Manning. I have the benefit of seeing the value of both sides. You on the other hand are blindly following one. Manning has given his reasons for what he is doing and they are valid. I don't think Manning thinks that he crippling the colts either. Take Brady as an example. Its widely accepted that he took a discount for the benefit of the pats on his last contract. What did that produce for him? 1 mvp, 1 sb loss. On the other hand, it is accepted that Manning took a max deal on his last contract which produced 2 mvps, 2 sbs, 1 sb win, and an sb mvp. If that is what you mean by bringing a franchise to its knees, I'd like another serving please. Organized labor is no different than management, they just have different beneficiaries. For you however, you find nobility in one and vulgarity in the other. I see two sides simply fighting for the same piece of pie. Irsay is a millionaire's son who is a billionaire only because of the valuation of the team. If the team loses in the near future, I am sure he would lose that status. Regardless, Irsay doesn't comparatively have a significant amount of liquid wealth. He's house rich, cash poor, as they say. Manning's probably got more cash than he does. Oh, and the golf course, haven't seen it, but knowing the land, I'd be surprised if its 9 holes, but I do know its not next to the stadium. Oh, and I am sure he'd let the players play. He's not all that uppity of a guy, not snobbish like you.
Posted by UD6[/QUOTE]
You can call me all the names you want, if that makes you feel better. That said, you don't see two sides of anything, so stop pretending you do.
What you are saying now is wildly, wildly contradictory to what you have been saying all along re: the labor situation. And you have, with one other poster non-withstanding, been the most vociferous anti-NFLPA poster on this forum.
You said, and I quote, that labor asks for more money than they deserve, and brings 'industries to their knees.' What Manning is doing is no different than what anyone else does, so why are you painting it that way here? Shouldn't he take less, rather than hurt the NFL's financials?
So why aren't you 'siding with the owners' here, as you said yourself? You did say you side with owners right? And you did say it was because labor makes outrageous demands, and then only gives in when they 'bring the business to its knees' right?
You are dead-red for the owners, and don't pretend you aren't because every post that doesn't involve Manning's contract is all about unions ruining businesses, and how you want to (again in your words) 'bring on the scabs.'
So why aren't you talking abot how Manning is raking Irsay over the coals here, like you have elsewhere about workers in general?