Re: is it WRONG to be leaning against MARTIN?
posted at 11/7/2013 9:01 AM EST
In response to NoMorePensionLooting's comment:
The NFL is a private club, hence, if you don't like it you are free to go somewhere else. It's a hard locker room mentality, and has been from the beginning, with a group of players that can be rough around the edges. They all do it and many teams will even tell you TB himself is one of the biggest trash talkers during live action. Sure it's a rough way to make a living but if you’re a drama queen you picked the wrong way to make a living.
Martin could have simply said "this ain't for me" and moved on and left it behind. He's out to make a personal and political statement and intends to force the PC world into the private clubs that is the NFL.
If this is not his agenda then why is it he has kept all of the "evidence" regarding this "bullying" situation from day one as if he planned on building a case all along. He could have been learning the playbook, and how to be a better lineman, but he chose to build a "case" rather than accept the rookie treatment, become accepted, and move on.
This OMG PC mentality is why kids can't play dodge ball anymore and some little leagues don't keep score because losing hurts kids feelings.
The PC crowd is running amuck in this country and if it permeates the NFL then the game will be permanently harmed... and for what?
I know I have said I will leave my political views at the door here but I am making an exception here. Not trying to bruise feelings here but I’ve grown tired of some who say their views and beliefs trump what others believe to the point where they begin to control my life. I have no use for the thought police.
I suppose I have said enough.
1. The NFL is a BIG business. It is not a private club.
2. Neither private clubs nor business are beyond the rule of law. We livve in a country that was FOUNDED on the Rule Of Law. Not on the rule of the jerk to do whatever they want to whoever they want if it is their company or even home.
3. You can feel any way you want about Martin. You can feel he is a victim of the thug mentality that to date has been let to exist. You can feel he should stand up for himself.
4. Whatever you feel you are not in his shoes nor do you know what he HAS done to stand up for himself. Thugs generally dont simply slink away because someone says "Hey I dont like what you are doing to me. Generally thugs have to be met with force or the threat of force - like being exled from the league and so their income or being arrested and put in jail.
5. I do not see anything political in this except that there are some few people who think they are "libertarian" which seems to mean to them its the wild west and anyone can do anything they want and you can protect yourself from them any way you want. Like it or not that does not fly in civilization, it does not fly under the rule of law, it does not fly in any mainstream religious beliefs (for example, Jesus preached something completely contrary to this).
6. I get why this is a "story" - why there is interest. Until the facts are out it is hard to judge who is responsible for what; conjecture does not replace solid assessment. And so while I too have responded to this story through conjecture it is best to let it play out.
7. Having said #6 there should be no place on a team or any league for harrassment. As with most things, hazing, taken to an extreme is no longer acceptable. We eacch have some place we draw the line and those lines may not be in exactly the same place. But essentially the principle is the same. And IF the rumors now emanating are true not only should some play(s) be either suspended for the year (or kicked out if it was that egreggious) but also on eor more coaches. If it goes beyond coaches and players then the team and owner need to take a big hit.
Sexual assault, physical assault, shake downs, and simply the ongoing atmosphere of intimidation... none of these are acceptable and so the authority of the team, the league and ultimately the police and the courts should be brought to bear whenever and wherever these things occur. That football is a barbaric activity is beside the point because we are talking about what happens off the field of play. It is not even acceptable on the sidelines in the course of a game.
And for you Jet fans, it is not acceptable in the stands either - whether it is threatening the fans of other teams or itimidating women and girls attending games.