Re: its not coaching.....its the weak drafts
posted at 7/21/2011 10:16 PM EDT
In Response to Re: its not coaching.....its the weak drafts
[QUOTE]The notion that Pioli's Drafts were strong and BB's are weak is also absurd. Lets name them; BB's 1) Bultler (nickel back) Bodden injury is shedding bad light on this kid he is a great third starter 2) Brace (Starter) Looked great to me in the pre season 2 sacks a forced fumble 12 tackle in two games.... Give me a break 3) Vollmer; Beast 4) Pryor; Value found in the 6th round 5) Ornhburger; Practice squad guy but he is developing, great pulling guard no so great in pass protection; signing a RB next year and changing our run:pass ratio may make him more valuable than you think 6) Edleman; Beast 7) Tate; Beast - i would give him mosses slot next year and spend that 10 million on the defense; go back to what made us the best; we have plenty of weapons for Brady ESPECIALLY if Ingram is Drafted! 8) Chung; Beast 9) Spikes; Beast 10) McCourty; Beast 11) Gronkowski; Beast 12) Hernandez; Beast x 2 13) Deaderick; quality 7th rounder on the depth chart 14) Larson; another quality pick on the depth chart 15) Cunningham; Promissing From 2002 to 2006 we absolutlely BLEW it but that was Pioli. If you want to call out someone on the drafts go post on KC's board
Posted by tagandtrade[/QUOTE]
How in the world is the Bodden injury making Butler look bad? You have to joking right? The kid just hasnt been a good player , period. Stop making excuses for him.
You might be the only one who think Brace looked good at any point. The guy gets pushed around so much out there. And that draft will always stick out in my mind for who we DIDNT get. We ended up taking Chung , Butler , Brace , when we could have had two dom. starters for years to come.
Seabass looked very good his rookie year but i still need to see more from him. Another thing stop calling guys "beast" when their clearly not. If you not a top 5-10 guy at your position , your not a beast.
Great value for Pryor and Seabass for that matter. I like Pryor and expect him to get better and turn into a very good player.
Ornhburger needs a lot of work and frankly i havent seen enough from him to make a clear cut decision either way.
Again you need to stop it with these "beast" LOL Edleman and Tate are NOT beast , not even close , miles away from being such. Tate doesnt even look like a WR , he has "return man" written all over him. The way he runs , cuts , getting in/out of his breaks , the guy doesnt look like a WR right now. Wow your really going overboard with this , seriously Tate , Chung , Edleman are NOT beast. Thats not opinion its fact. There not even the best at their position on their own team. Theres really no need to go on here , there was absolutely nothing quality Deaderick last year. He looked like Brace in his rookie year. They both looked slow , weak , soft and not in condition to play.
Spikes , DMC , Gronk and Hernandez are all on their way to becoming great players , i myself was hoping we would go after Spikes and couldnt be more happy with what we have. The guy has great instincts , can already diagnosis plays and is always around the ball. Obviously his pass coverage skills arnt up to par yet , hell work on that and get better. Him and Mayo play off each other really well and could be two of the best that ever do it if they keep working hard. I expect big things from our D this year and these two are big reasons why. If we can get some positive play from our guys playing the 5 tech. we good be very good. Despite the numbers we put up last year i think it still needs some work. Id like to see a bigger comittment to the run , teams just dont respect us enough in that department imo. We have the guys , with BJGE being the main guy. And enough talk about if we need another WR , we absolutely do need another WR. We dont have one guy on our roster that can really stretch the D ... at all. What the jets did to us last year was pathetic and should never happen to us again.